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Message 1313962 - Posted: 11 Dec 2012, 13:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 1312659.

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All I know is what I seen and UFO means just that and I can't explain it and what I seen you couldn't either. I had no camera (dinning out) so no clear picture is ready to show. But many pictures are effected by trees mountains or houses or out of range. So it's off for coffee and 2 doughnuts and it's still dark 30 :)

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Message 1314317 - Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 17:43:57 UTC - in response to Message 1312659.
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Oh my, where do they get that information??

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Message 1315082 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 13:04:03 UTC - in response to Message 1314317.

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Oh my, where do they get that information??

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you know Julie you have more over you way than us, I don't know why but you do.

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Message 1315193 - Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 18:49:43 UTC - in response to Message 1315082.

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Oh my, where do they get that information??

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you know Julie you have more over you way than us, I don't know why but you do.



Thank you, Grant:) That's a really nice thing to say. I think all my friends here are special though.
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Message 1316935 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 1:23:29 UTC - in response to Message 1315193.
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you know Julie you have more over you way than us, I don't know why but you do.



Thank you, Grant:) That's a really nice thing to say. I think all my friends here are special though.


I have 2 daughters live in Phoenix both saw it and said when it flew over the city the stars where gone because it was so large. One thought it was about a football field long. Made no noise at all and shot off after a while like crazy.

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Message 1317101 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 13:25:15 UTC

That sort of sighting is a bit scary, and at first glance seems to defy rational explanation. But how could something that big not be detected by military radar?
I'm not doubting what they sincerely thought they saw, but it's hard to define it within current knowledge.

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Message 1317202 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 17:29:29 UTC

Could be that military radars detected it and that the government made it an 'X File'...
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Message 1317247 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 18:39:11 UTC
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Message 1317304 - Posted: 19 Dec 2012, 20:15:34 UTC - in response to Message 1317202.

Could be that military radars detected it and that the government made it an 'X File'...

Or could be it was one of theirs.

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Message 1317508 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 7:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 1317304.

Could be that military radars detected it and that the government made it an 'X File'...

Or could be it was one of theirs.


Also possible...
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Message 1317613 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 14:05:39 UTC

Its probably a matter of perspective. A jumbo jet size object right overhead, would block out as much stars, as a football sized one a mile away.



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Message 1317723 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:38:34 UTC
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Still, a lot is kept secret I think...

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/IntelligenceAgencyDocuments.html..html
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Message 1317765 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 19:39:42 UTC - in response to Message 1317723.

Still, a lot is kept secret I think...

http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/IntelligenceAgencyDocuments.html..html

Good read, it's reminded me of Project Blue Book, and what its results were:


1.No UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the Air Force was ever an indication of threat to our national security;

2.There was no evidence submitted to or discovered by the Air Force that sightings categorized as "unidentified" represented technological developments or principles beyond the range of modern scientific knowledge; and

3.There was no evidence indicating that sightings categorized as "unidentified" were extraterrestrial vehicles.


All activities regarding Project Blue Book ceased in January 1970. Maybe if they had kept it going up to the present day they would have found something, other than tin foil hatters muttering about little grey men from planet zog who beamed them up to their ship and, well, we all know happens :)
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Message 1317773 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 19:51:23 UTC

Thanx for the interesting info, Zappy:) Never heard of that project before...
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Message 1317806 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 20:41:14 UTC

Oh yes, Project Blue Book, read that many years ago. Also Project Skyhook Also more rubbish is posted about Area 51 than I have had hot dinners.

Yes, there IS stuff out there that cannot be quantified within current knowledge, but there is also 1000 times more rubbish posted by nerdy weirdos, probably on meds.

I'll keep an open, and hopefully intelligent mind on it all.

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Message 1318035 - Posted: 21 Dec 2012, 7:52:23 UTC

True. If you have to believe everything you find on the internet about the subject, then you have a serious case of 'information overload'.
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Message 1331541 - Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 11:01:35 UTC

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Message 1337408 - Posted: 12 Feb 2013, 11:01:34 UTC

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Message 1339481 - Posted: 19 Feb 2013, 23:17:27 UTC

Just keep in mind that MANY of the things that can't be explained today are things that are possibly classified aircraft. For example, I've seen reports of UFOs that tend to have the following characteristics:

1) No reported engine noise.
2) So big it was "blocking out the stars."
3) Moving too slow to be a plane, too fast to be something like a balloon.
4) Nothing reported by airport radar.

However a little creative thinking yields that something like the high speed (100-200 knots) heavy lift blimps the military is (possibly) evaluating would fit all of the above. Yet they're not much fancier than blimp technology from 100 years ago. (Save for the radar evading technology.)

If you'd seen a B2 Spirit bomber in the early 1980's when it was being developed, you'd been convinced that the USAF had NOTHING like it. Of course we all now know not only DID we, but I'm sure you can extrapolate that with modern equipment (look how far computers have come since the 1980's) there are some pretty wild things out there the military is using and/or testing.

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Message 1351089 - Posted: 27 Mar 2013, 5:40:49 UTC - in response to Message 1293531.


UFOs in Liberty County puzzle deputies and residents


Great balls of fire!

That's the description an excited caller gave to Liberty County's 911 emergency dispatcher about UFOs that he'd spotted about 8:30 p.m. Saturday. The caller reported that the red fireballs were on the county's east side and traveling in a southwesterly direction.

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