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Message 1352227 - Posted: 30 Mar 2013, 19:38:38 UTC - in response to Message 1352213.  
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Oh, reality vs. perception.

I guess these two things are not the same.

At least it is harder to give an explanation of things when it comes to a possible perception of the the same which possibly may be around there.
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Message 1352983 - Posted: 3 Apr 2013, 21:34:32 UTC - in response to Message 1351640.  
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Another fun one that has just got to be by some fun lovin' cosmic alien:


... 'saintly' mower art

... The figure, only visible from the air, is 180m long...


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Message 1353139 - Posted: 4 Apr 2013, 6:15:24 UTC

Makes me think of the Nazca lines...
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Message 1355092 - Posted: 9 Apr 2013, 21:25:53 UTC - in response to Message 1353139.  

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Message 1355197 - Posted: 10 Apr 2013, 5:50:32 UTC

Oh my. Then you start to wonder how they even got here in their tiny UFO's...
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Message 1359236 - Posted: 21 Apr 2013, 8:12:22 UTC

The accidental discovery of the ability to warp space time and create pocket outside of it.. This then required the ability to envelope a physical space within the warp area. The area exists outside of time and space and as a result one can propel the warp bubble at very infinite speeds. These bubbles of warp fields allow travel through space and as they are not impacted by normal time that within the warp fields does not experience time except for relative time of that within the field. Pushing the warp bubble along could be achieved by a simple field strength alteration along one area of the bubble. The warp bubble would move in the direction where the field strength was lower. A static or even field would stop the movement. Matter interaction would not take place as the bubble would not be impacted by normal matter wit the exception of that at the edges of black holes and singularities. One would need to avoid that interaction as the singularity is the only pont in our universe that transitions to "warp" territory...

And so we now can see that faster than light travel is possible but only if your within that bubble...

Truth is though reality will burst that bubble and leave you stuck in Einstein's reality where FTL is simply fictional...


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Message 1359581 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 0:19:44 UTC - in response to Message 1359236.  


Fireball UFOs Over Ireland: Clever Hoax Or Unexplained Objects? (VIDEO)


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Message 1359674 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 5:56:58 UTC

As people have posted here who realy knows,! what our gov's know and are keeping secret .Was dragged kicking and screaming to a seminar on ufo's and walked out confused and not so skepital after seeing some of the info ufo researchers have come up with I only know 1 thing there not angels pretending to be aliens
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Message 1359768 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 11:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 1359581.  
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Fireball UFOs Over Ireland: Clever Hoax Or Unexplained Objects? (VIDEO)

That looks exactly like very simple programming of a certain well known video after-effects package. There are similar examples elsewhere on the internet. (The give-away is the motion and the non-matching blur effects. The choreography is also rather stereotyped and contrived...)

Also note for something so audacious: How come noone else noticed at the time?


All a very silly fake.

All a waste of time and a piece of an old Irish yarn...

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Message 1359786 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:05:29 UTC - in response to Message 1359769.  

If a man called Lassar I think is correct and not b/s then the U.S has at least 3 Alien space ships and they can hover and move by using gravity and super cooled electromagnets and they are supposed to be !!! Yep Area 51 or dreamland at Area 51 so faster than light mite be possible if you could stop the effects of the higgs field . But just imagine what would happen if they came out and said we have had contact with 3 different Aliens races ???
In the civilised country's mite be ok but .......
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Message 1359787 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:14:46 UTC

I also think there must be things the governments won't tell us and I think their main reason is to avoid a panic outbreak...
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Message 1359793 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:24:46 UTC

Lassar claims to have worked on at least 1 of the ships and was trying to work out the propulsion system and how it worked . He claims to have anilised some of the materials used to create them . It is not possible on the earth to create some of the metals . One of these metals was pure 100% alumimimum as a person that knows and has worked with all types of metal I know it's not possible to make 100% pure this alloy 99.9999% is the best we can do on earth .
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Message 1359799 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 12:38:15 UTC - in response to Message 1359787.  

Yes Julie that is the same resoning the Vatican did not make the book of Enoch as 1 of the books of the bible even thou it made the short list and was 1 of 5 books left out.
Enock was Noah's son and is a discussion for a different thread
But buy all means look up Enock and you will understand what I mean
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Message 1360067 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 23:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 1359802.  

Interesting. Bet they are seeing Drones.


UFO Activities in Space


Astronauts working aboard International Space Station are claiming to have seen a blinking entity or object, which they said was a UFO activity that took place on 18 and 19 April 2013.
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Message 1360073 - Posted: 22 Apr 2013, 23:47:37 UTC - in response to Message 1359802.  
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I also think there must be things the governments won't tell us and I think their main reason is to avoid a panic outbreak...

I don't think that any government anywhere has any alien spaceships. But I do think it is possible that the USA at least, and possibly the UK also, has some sort of evidence that ET does exist. But for the sake of avoiding mass panic, and civil unrest throughout the world, they are keeping it back. And rightly too.


If the world can't keep nuclear secrets secret which can be an immediate and severe threat, then why would they be able to keep alien secrets secret, when thousands of people must be involved, and any actual threat is minimal?

I would be panicking a lot more if some rogue country launched a few nuclear tipped missiles than I would at confirming evidence of ET visitation.

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Edit: I can add that scientist have alerted all of us that there are extinction events that can do a lot of harm, very quickly. Super volcanoes, gamma ray bursts within 2000 light years, meteor impacts, plaques, hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, floods, fires, and of course wars. The only way they could keep a secret like ET visitation, is if there was no secret to keep. Panic the world with concrete news of ET, I just don't see it.
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Message 1360080 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:27:16 UTC

Another story , Why has N.A.S.A now chosen to not have what was Earth views done live any more ???

They stuffed up big time televised 2 events 1 showing a ufo entering the atmosphere and then leaveing the other was from the dark side of earth which show's a country fireing what looks like some sort of high powered laser at a object comeing to close to earth and then flying away at great speed im not jokeing but make up your own mind I am only the messanger so please don't shoot me
Still on the fence about the whole thing
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Message 1360081 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:30:42 UTC

Can you provide a link? I haven't heard of that. Not that it isn't authentic, but I haven't heard of that yet.

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Message 1360085 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 1360081.  

No sorry it was a long time ago but I do believe that you can still find it on you tube but under what heading I can't remember but it is you tube !!! I didn't come across it there thou I was checking something else and ended up somewhere I can't remember but as I said make your own mind up
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Message 1360090 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 0:52:06 UTC
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I make up my mind all the time, and change it when warranted. What leads me to my decisions is evidence. I have no problem at all admitting that something I said was completely wrong, provided I have solid evidence to the contrary.

As for the ET conspiracy, I think the story is much more interesting that the factual information. Even if we were to have ET visitors, I would need to get past the physics of traveling what is certainly more than 100 light years, at speeds that are locked at a maximum of 186,000 miles per second, and dealing with time dilation, and the deaths of anyone left on the "home" planet by the time any visitor returned. The only way, given the huge distances that makes sense, is to have several generations embark on the trip, and several generations on the return trip. That doesn't make sense with them staying a short while, leave no concrete evidence, then heading back. It would be a bit more like this link.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/22/world/mars-one-way-ticket/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

The distances are just to huge. Even if I see something myself, I can't explain the physics, so I would be more inclined to come up with an explanation that fit the physics.

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Message 1360102 - Posted: 23 Apr 2013, 1:13:21 UTC
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I believe he is talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYmPFMB09fU. Check out about 7 minutes into it.
However, I think someone even convinced the UFO Hunter Bill Byrnes of a debunking of it.
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