UFO lights over Phoenix Arizona, real or not?
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 Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71 
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I know what most people see is real, to explain it to other people but making you feel like a fool is another. I had my moment in life a year ago and I mean nothing and I mean nothing can change my mined what I saw. Nothing moves from zero stand still and goes to about 2000 in less than a second that I know of, unless ET was late for a date. ID: 1291420 ·  |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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I was much the same way when I believed myself to have an out-of-body experience 18 years ago. No one could tell me otherwise that I didn't have one because they didn't experience it! Boy was I wrong and I often feel foolish even admitting that I believed such a funny thing. Nothing moves from zero stand still and goes to about 2000 in less than a second that I know of, unless ET was late for a date. How would you know if you never looked for the answer or stopped looking altogether? ID: 1291425 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Well I'm not saying I was out to lunch but what I seen wasn't natural. If so I want some of his gas. Ion drive 250? ID: 1291427 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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How would you know if it wasn't natural if you don't know what it was? Moreover, even if it were an alien spacecraft, I'm sure they use natural materials to build things, so it had to be natural unless you're suggesting that it was a ghost flying a spaceship? ID: 1291428 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Good question if you see something go zero to 2000 and makes 5 -180 turnes in 1 second? Nope not natural. someone is putty inside. ID: 1291429 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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If it were going "2000", presumably miles per hour, you would never even be able to see it, so I'm sure that's an exaggeration on your part to mean "very fast". Which is the point. I'm sure it was going very fast, and I'm sure it made 5 180 degree turns. But I do know that there has been some great advances in unmanned flying crafts that could do those sorts of things. ID: 1291430 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Look it was at a stand still for more than a min. it cut out did 5 180's at about 1/4 mile each than few into a patch of fog which you just see something big there and then GONE!!! The only thing II can say is I seen it and it didn't stop in for coffee. almost pee'd my pants. ID: 1291436 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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I know of 5 others seen it that night. ID: 1291437 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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So 5 people witnessed an unmanned plane flying around very fast making quick turns. ID: 1291438 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Never mind ID: 1291440 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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Why is that not an acceptable alternative explanation? Do you know for certain that it was manned? ID: 1291441 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Never post again ID: 1291444 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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No need to be angry because someone is trying to help you find an alternative answer that is perfectly plausible. ID: 1291445 · |
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Julie Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 33404 Credit: 10,903,337 RAC: 8,466 
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ID: 1291566 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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I do believe it's a possibility alien life is visiting us already. There must be alien civilizations out there that are more advanced in technology and who have the means to fly this far... I do agree and I think life goes on much more grander than we realize rather than 14 billion ago. ID: 1291637 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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I do believe it's a possibility alien life is visiting us already. There must be alien civilizations out there that are more advanced in technology and who have the means to fly this far... I don't see how the two statements are connected. A lack of belief in aliens visiting us doesn't mean a lack of belief in the existence of aliens period. I'd be more than willing to believe the possibility that alien life is visiting us, but every time I examine the evidence, I can't seem to find anything beyond people's claims. ID: 1291811 · |
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Grant Nelson Send message Joined: 7 May 12 Posts: 7040 Credit: 3,660,575 RAC: 71
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Look at it this way, with all this space and no one is there what a waist.[/b[b]] Lets get real. ID: 1291816 · |
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OzzFan Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15412 Credit: 53,197,199 RAC: 17,766
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I repeat myself: A failure to believe that aliens are visiting us is not the same thing as a failure to believe in life out there. Or said another way: Can you point out to me where I said that aliens don't exist? The only claim I have made is that I see no reason to believe that aliens have been visiting our planet, despite stories to the contrary. ID: 1291836 · |
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Mike Sebrey Send message Joined: 10 May 99 Posts: 108 Credit: 5,017,919 RAC: 0
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ID: 1291862 · |
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musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 1787 Credit: 842,842 RAC: 0 |
Where is M 94 located? ID: 1291880 · |
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