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Message 1286630 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 12:47:40 UTC
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For Guy. Since there is no justification for cutting taxes during wartime nor to the extremely wealthy for 10 years. claiming job creation when they did not create anything but a bigger bank account doesnt count.
using this justification, I'd say my math is in league with republican rhetoric on why they should have taxes as low as the working class.

for 45% I will guarantee the wealthy that they have a country to live in and roads that their chauffeurs can drive them around on. Cutting taxes to the wealthy is a disincentive for doing more. Why work harder if I can just have my taxes cut and still get the same amount of money in the end.

Wait a tick that sounds like Republican speak for the poor. Hmmmm maybe when they were talking about the poor they actually meant themselves

BTW 45% is a starting point. If things don't get better at that rate then it gets to go 5% higher every 2 years until it does get better
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Message 1286638 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 13:09:14 UTC
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Message 1286643 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 13:20:46 UTC - in response to Message 1286638.
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The problem with that statement is the "poor" are going to have less just as much as the "rich" are going to have less.

That I agree with. To get America out of this mess everybody will have to hurt. The problem is will the politicians have the gumption to admit that there will be short term suffering for the long term good. Or will they sit on their hands until total collapse forces them to act.

If they take the second approach it could be very messy indeed. Particularly when there is nearly a million battle hardened, unemployed and resentful veterans in the country.

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Who do I blame? I don't blame anyone in D.C. I blame the voters. I blame short-term thinking inflamed by the catalysts on the ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Comedy Central, and BET news programs.

Do you admit the point that the politicians in DC have been "influenced" by a constant stream of well funded lobbyists from the financial sector and other areas and that this is one of the main reasons no action has so far been taken ?

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Message 1286655 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 14:39:21 UTC
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Message 1286692 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 16:41:05 UTC - in response to Message 1286655.

Do you admit the point that the politicians in DC have been "influenced" by a constant stream of well funded lobbyists from the financial sector and other areas (...is an understatement...) and that this is one of the main reasons no action has so far been taken ?


Another way of asking that very same question is, "Do you believe there is corruption in DC?"

Do you really need to see me answer that question?

ok.

YES.

Now, which side is more subject to corruption is a subject of debate. But I believe it'll serve no purpose to bother trying to agree on anything there because some people in here look at the exact same thing, but describe completed opposite things.

I believe the first step to recovery (if a recovery is still possible) is to do a budget in accordance with the law. <---- I'm being very gentle on how I word that statement because I don't want to offend any Obama supporters in here. Romney has alluded to the fact that we need to do a budget, but hasn't outright stated it. I believe that'll be one of the first things he demands from congress. That'll be a start in the right direction. (Now, if that's not reaching out and being civil to the folks who call me names and put down everything I say in here, I don't know what is.)



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Message 1298058 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 2:05:26 UTC

Watching today's debate it is clear that Mitt wants to install puppet governments in the mid east.
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Message 1301762 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 18:22:13 UTC

With only 3 days to go till the election, Romney still seems "policy challenged". He does however appear to say whatever his audience at the time wants to hear. I doubt that even his closest confidantes have any idea what he would actually do if elected.

A Hypothetical.
What would be the reaction of the arch-conservatives on these boards be if Romney was elected and he....
1) Decided to keep "Obamacare".
2) Raised taxes on the 1%
3) Boosted Federal spending to create jobs
4) Reeled in the Federal Reserve and the financial establishment in general.
5) Increased minimum wages to a liveable level.

Afterall, as a governor, he did show some quite "liberal" (by current conservative reckoning) tendencies.

At the minute, it's obvious he will say anything to get elected. BUT, just what is his real agenda ?

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Message 1301788 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 19:21:48 UTC

If "Lobbying" on the Congress/Senate was made illegal, what would be the effects - Would it be a + or - ?
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Message 1301796 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 19:46:51 UTC - in response to Message 1301788.
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If "Lobbying" on the Congress/Senate was made illegal, what would be the effects - Would it be a + or - ?

WHAT????
You want truth in politics???????????
Not possible. Too much money in too deep pockets to go around.

It gores too many oxen to pass.......

The only hope we have is the obscure passage of a bill in the senate and house that says, among other things.......

Is that no member of the house or senate should be governed by laws aside from those that they pass upon their constituents.

It won't walk.

Because it also calls for the dissilution of any and all 'special' trust funds and requires our politicians to toss their lot into the SS fund with the rest of us.

Should, but shall never happen. As long as the politicians govern their own fate rather than the taxpayers.........it just ain't gonna happen.

Duh, does ANYBODY see something wrong with this process??
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Message 1301806 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 20:10:50 UTC - in response to Message 1301788.

If "Lobbying" on the Congress/Senate was made illegal, what would be the effects - Would it be a + or - ?

How will you enforce it. Shoot on sight anyone who writes a letter to their congress person?

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Message 1301809 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 20:44:30 UTC - in response to Message 1301806.

If "Lobbying" on the Congress/Senate was made illegal, what would be the effects - Would it be a + or - ?

How will you enforce it. Shoot on sight anyone who writes a letter to their congress person?


It was a sensible question asked that didn't deserve sarcasm in return.

So to clarify, gun & oil lobbyists for example.
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Message 1301861 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 23:25:45 UTC - in response to Message 1301809.

If "Lobbying" on the Congress/Senate was made illegal, what would be the effects - Would it be a + or - ?

How will you enforce it. Shoot on sight anyone who writes a letter to their congress person?


It was a sensible question asked that didn't deserve sarcasm in return.

So to clarify, gun & oil lobbyists for example.

If you had said paid lobbyist ... but does that prohibit a corporation from paying a secretary to type a letter?

The devil is in the details ...

I'm simply saying the idea is half baked. Put it back into the oven and bake until done. It may be that a prohibition on legislators from voting on any measure they accepted a campaign contribution from a lobbyist might be a better option.


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Message 1302016 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 9:31:13 UTC
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Yes Mitt Romney can make a change, usa people have to give
this guy a chance..I'll think he can make a it;)
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Message 1302019 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 9:39:07 UTC

The polls still predict Obama, but by a slim margin. Depends upon the % turnout.

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Message 1302030 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 10:35:25 UTC - in response to Message 1301861.

If you had said paid lobbyist ... but does that prohibit a corporation from paying a secretary to type a letter?

The devil is in the details ...

I'm simply saying the idea is half baked. Put it back into the oven and bake until done. It may be that a prohibition on legislators from voting on any measure they accepted a campaign contribution from a lobbyist might be a better option.



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Message 1302039 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 11:11:48 UTC
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Message 1302071 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 1302039.

Romney, if elected, will attempt to save America by discriminating against stupidity. But he will fail because of Harry Reid vowing to make him a one-term president and the main-stream media continuing to attack him with lies.

Curious, can you site one of these "lies" the media has told us about Romney?

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Message 1302082 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1302039.

Romney, if elected, will attempt to save America by discriminating against stupidity.....

So he's going to intern or otherwise dispose of all the Tea Party members ??

(That point alone might make him worth voting for afterall)

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Message 1302083 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:23:31 UTC - in response to Message 1302071.
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Message 1302099 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 14:56:35 UTC

Mitthead? Save America?
That lifeform is the posterchild for what is wrong with America.
I cannot believe that a scum vulture capitalist is even a contender for the highest office in the land.

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