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Message 1291847 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 1:04:23 UTC - in response to Message 1291759.
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Good thoughts and comment there from our Music friend.

Note that time is merely something that we measure. Also, an essential assumption for all of physics is that of "causality" and how that implies the single direction for the "arrow of time".

And then also, "time is an illusion".


For another thought: Is the Planck timescale too small for us to experimentally see any artefacts?


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Message 1291848 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 1:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 1291843.

We see galactic lensing and no prism effect.


Leave your contacts in for too long or look behind you at night thru the back window of your car if you have heating wires and you will see the same multiple images.

So... We are looking through multiple galactic distance discontinuities?

Or our Universe is suffering a drunken Friday?? ;-)


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Message 1291874 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 2:09:36 UTC - in response to Message 1291759.

Also, when considering the balloon universe diagram or picture illustrated by Johnney Guiness a little earlier on (Message 1287223), it may perhaps be possible of thinking of the Universe as continually "warping" - meaning that it possibly is continously doing so in both space and time.

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Got to stop you there. I posted the picture of the balloon universe as an example of a mathematical paradox that is being shoved down peoples throat. I presented it as an example of bad science, not something to try to solve.

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Message 1291926 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 6:23:50 UTC

So we have to take it on faith that dark matter and dark energy exist. Isn't that ironic.
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Message 1291941 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 7:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1291926.
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So we have to take it on faith that dark matter and dark energy exist. Isn't that ironic.

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You don't have to believe it on faith. You can use your common sense and reject Dark matter and Dark energy theory, just like i do. I totally and utterly reject both theories because of lack of any testable scientific evidence. Neither have ever been "detected" with any man-made scientific instrument. They are both just theoretical constructs with very thin evidence to back up the theories.

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Message 1292059 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 15:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 1291941.

So we have to take it on faith that dark matter and dark energy exist. Isn't that ironic.

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You don't have to believe it on faith. You can use your common sense and reject Dark matter and Dark energy theory, just like i do. I totally and utterly reject both theories because of lack of any testable scientific evidence. Neither have ever been "detected" with any man-made scientific instrument. They are both just theoretical constructs with very thin evidence to back up the theories.

John.


And you replace the theories with "God did it" for which there's even less generally available evidence. Bravo.
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Message 1292328 - Posted: 7 Oct 2012, 5:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 1292059.


And you replace the theories with "God did it" for which there's even less generally available evidence. Bravo.


imagine if on 1 of your atoms, and its electrons, there are some 'living beings' living on it...

do you think it s possible they would 'feel' your presence, your existence ?
can you say, or can they say "YOU" created them ?
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Message 1294859 - Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 1292328.


And you replace the theories with "God did it" for which there's even less generally available evidence. Bravo.


imagine if on 1 of your atoms, and its electrons, there are some 'living beings' living on it...

do you think it s possible they would 'feel' your presence, your existence ?
can you say, or can they say "YOU" created them ?


My imagination, thus my creation. Or is it your idea, thus your creation? "They" can't say anything as "they" do not exist.
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