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Message 1287475 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 19:47:30 UTC - in response to Message 1287392.

... Yes, my explanation DOES fly in the face of mainstream astronomy. But mainstream astronomy is in crisis. And the whole of theoretical astronomy and cosmology is about to get a rude awakening.

Says who?

Oh... Says just you?...


We're still awaiting your book ;-)

Or just like the YouTube PropagandaBuster, are we 'writing' your book for you?...


Keep searchin',
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I say so Martin! I have been pretty clear here. I'm not repeating something i heard somewhere else. This is my personal theory, based on my own personal physics research. So your hearing the results of my personal research.

And i didn't say i was going to publish a book about my physics research. I said i was going to publish a book about the research into the "old book" that i also do work on.

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Message 1287477 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 19:52:32 UTC - in response to Message 1287405.
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I said Johnney is a good storyteller and he agreed with me. He keeps us in suspense for his revelations, but they never come, and, in my humble opinion, they will never come.
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Tullio,
Now thats just not fair! We have discussed this in great depth!

I tried to publish my physics discovery in a proper physics journal but i can't because i don't have an academic degree and i don't have the backing of an academic institution. So as i said before, i'm currently "sitting tight" trying to decide what to do. If i could find an investor with money, i could go the commercial route and attempt to use my new physics to produce products that use my new physics effects. But i currently don't have any money to go the commercial route. Developing new products is very very expensive, and i'm broke!

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Message 1287479 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 20:01:42 UTC - in response to Message 1287411.
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I said Johnney is a good storyteller and he agreed with me. He keeps us in suspense for his revelations, but they never come, and, in my humble opinion, they will never come.

Perhaps he is trying to 'teach' us and make 'believers' out of us?...

For to be told: Just as for true believers, the final Revelation never comes...

Then also, the exploration of Science merely forever expands the horizon of ignorance ;-)


Whatever might be the Johnney story, it's got to be better than Dan Brown's 'amalgam' or such as the Texas Tony Propaganda YouTube written book...

:-)

Keep searchin',
Martin

Martin,
I try my best. I use the skills i have in life to solve problems. But i'm a bit of a recluse and i'm not very good with people. So even though i have solved these problems, i'm just not sure exactly what to do with the results. Martin what i have is very valuable, and i'm not going to just give it away on some internet forum. I have to take time to decide what to do.

But at the same time, i'm over joyed and excited by my discoveries so i chat about them here in this forum. Its like needing to go to the toilet. I'm bursting to tell people what i have discovered. But its a catch 22 situation. If i blurt out my discovery, then it will quickly propagate on the internet and i will never get any credit. If i don't talk about it, i won't get credit either. So i'm screwed either way. I'm sitting on a billion dollar lottery ticket, but i just don't know how to cash in the ticket.

I currently need about 2,000 Euro to build the next set of experiments to conclusively prove the physics. But i don't have 2,000 Euro to buy the gear to carry out the experiments.

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Message 1288031 - Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 13:26:15 UTC

The LHC whose results I am simulating has cost 5 billion euro. The ITER fusion experiment has cost 15 billion euro and it needs another 10 billion euro before completion. You cannot do much physics today on a budget of 2000 euro, we are far from the "string and wax" experiments. What you can do is to write a paper outlining your ideas and publish it on the Internet. A preprint does not have to pass a peer review. CERN has just launched an Open Science channel. according to theregister.co.uk.
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Message 1290810 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 16:33:20 UTC
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Very important video to watch here!

Is dark matter real? - with George Smoot and Martinus Veltman (Nobel prizewinners);
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX9ShHsQUpk (13 minute video)

Nobel prizewinners George Smoot and Martinus Veltman discuss Dark matter and Dark energy.

4 minutes 40 seconds into the video, Nobel prizewinner Martinus Veltman, when asked what he thinks Dark matter is, he states he "Doesn't think it exists".

That video was recorded a few months ago just after CERN announced the discovery of the Higgs-like particle. In the video, listen carefully to Martinus Veltman, he's the heavy man with grey hair and sun glasses. Martinus Veltman is skeptical of both Dark matter and Dark energy. And he explains exactly why he is skeptical.

I like the way Martinus Veltman describes people in favour of Dark matter as "The Church of Dark matter". Because its a very good description of the way astronomers and cosmologists try to force Dark matter theory down everyone's throat. When the reality is that there is little or no real scientific evidence that it actually exists.

I suggest you watch the video several times because its important!

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Message 1290987 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 23:58:56 UTC - in response to Message 1290810.

... When the reality is that there is little or no real scientific evidence that it actually exists. ...

And yet the Earth moves and yet the light bends...


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Message 1290998 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 0:31:58 UTC - in response to Message 1290987.

... When the reality is that there is little or no real scientific evidence that it actually exists. ...

And yet the Earth moves and yet the light bends...


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Keep searchin',
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Are you mad Martin?
What's wrong with you? Have you read any of the messages i posted in this thread?

I have stated quite clearly in this thread that there isn't a single shred of scientific proof that Dark matter or Dark energy exists!

Do you want me to repeat it again?

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Message 1291065 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 5:21:11 UTC

In search of dark energy, two new telescopes:
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Message 1291169 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 13:25:36 UTC - in response to Message 1291065.
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In search of dark energy, two new telescopes:
Nature
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Excellent telescopes. Very valuable to the science community!

But they are never going to see any Dark energy, or Dark matter. Why? Because they are both theoretical constructs that only exist in the computers and the minds of astronomers.

They would have better luck using the new telescopes to look for fairies and unicorns. At least fairies and unicorns might actually exist.

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Message 1291196 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 14:43:01 UTC

It looks like dark matter played a pivotal role in the formation of the Milky Way. See this "Nature" article:
Milky Way formation
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Message 1291203 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 15:13:36 UTC - in response to Message 1291196.

It looks like dark matter played a pivotal role in the formation of the Milky Way. See this "Nature" article:
Milky Way formation
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Speculation based on a theoretical mathematical construct that only exists in astronomers computers.

Show me the physics experiment that can detect Dark matter and then i will go back and re-read the article.

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Message 1291465 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 1:32:20 UTC - in response to Message 1291203.

We simply need to send a probe to bring back some of this dark matter--right ??

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Message 1291497 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 3:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 1291465.

We simply need to send a probe to bring back some of this dark matter--right ??

William my old buddy,
I second that motion! Will we send the Star Trek Enterprise? And will you command the ship? I will be your first mate!

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Message 1291591 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 12:27:45 UTC

Astronomers can't do any experiment. They can only observe the sky, as they have done since the time of Galileo.
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Message 1291642 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 16:07:03 UTC

And still the light bends.

So... If not by the presence of time and gravity, by what other effect is the light being bent from a straight line path?


(Strictly speaking, the light is still following a straight line, it's just that from our vantage point, we deduce the path to be not so straight... Why?... ;-) )

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Message 1291722 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 18:54:09 UTC - in response to Message 1291591.

Astronomers can't do any experiment. They can only observe the sky, as they have done since the time of Galileo.
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Why can't they Tullio?

You can do experiments. I can do experiments. So astronomers can do experiments too if they need too. There is nothing to stop them. You can't sit at the cutting edge of astronomy, with a billion dollar telescope at your disposal, and preach to the world, scientific discoveries that are not true. And then use the excuse that you weren't able to carry out experiments to check your science results.

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Message 1291725 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 18:57:39 UTC - in response to Message 1291642.
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And still the light bends.

So... If not by the presence of time and gravity, by what other effect is the light being bent from a straight line path?


(Strictly speaking, the light is still following a straight line, it's just that from our vantage point, we deduce the path to be not so straight... Why?... ;-) )

Keep searchin',
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So Martin,
With all the scientific knowledge you have in your head, and all the scientific knowledge you have at your disposal on the internet, you can't think of any way to bend light?

Ahhhhhhh....here's one off the top of my head; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prism_(optics)

There are many more ways to "bend" light. And to give it the appearance of red-shifting.

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Message 1291747 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 19:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 1291725.

So God put Giant invisible prisms in space. NICE...

You forget that the light that enters a prism is split into its constituent wavelengths. This doesn't happen in space.

We see galactic lensing and no prism effect.
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Message 1291759 - Posted: 5 Oct 2012, 20:38:02 UTC
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I make this short since it is Friday once again and time to "celebrate".

But we are living in a three-dimensional world where time is thought of as being the fourth dimension.

Meaning that we may put c in somewhere and t in somewhere.

Assume x, y and z are the three dimensions, c is the speed of light and t is time.

You may get something like x,y,z [some arithmetic operator] c = t

So which operators to choose then? And what is the meaning of the "=" next?

Anyway, gravity is supposed to be bending time. Since it is thought to be bending space as well (the three known dimensions), these elements are interconnecting or interacting with each other.

Also, for Isaac Newton's three standard equations (or laws) for movement in the Universe (of which the third such is a quite complex one), there should exist one or more corresponding such equations (or laws) for a Universe where the laws of Quantum Theory or Quantum Mechanics is considered valid or fundamental.

Albert Einstein was able to conclude that either at the speed of light and maybe also in a very strong gravitational field as well, the position of an object relative to a specific point of time can not be calculated.

Is this the same way of thinking as Werner Heisenberg's uncertainty principle? It should all be a subject matter which is related to mathematics.

Because of this, the field of mathematics has to be adjusted in order to include those fields where uncertainty is the prevalent factor and certain things (including the position of objects) can not be predicted in advance, either because the measurement itself affects the object's position or because of the Quantum Mecanics factors/elements themselves.

Also, when considering the balloon universe diagram or picture illustrated by Johnney Guiness a little earlier on (Message 1287223), it may perhaps be possible of thinking of the Universe as continually "warping" - meaning that it possibly is continously doing so in both space and time.

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Message 1291843 - Posted: 6 Oct 2012, 0:52:06 UTC

We see galactic lensing and no prism effect.


Leave your contacts in for too long or look behind you at night thru the back window of your car if you have heating wires and you will see the same multiple images.

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