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Dark energy is real, say "astronomers" | |
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Read this; | |
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Read this; Ok, i read it. So what? Its more of the same rubbish? John. | |
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Read this; First, it is not rubbish. It is science. Second, why using the double quotes on the 'astronomers' term?. They are doing research, you are only talking. Tullio ____________ | |
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I've had a Revelation. | |
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Read this; Tullio, I'm just pointing out the latest research on Dark energy. I'm specifically pointing out this article because these astronomers say they are almost 100% sure!! They say they are 99.996% sure that dark energy exists. Now that is an incredible level of certainty. If you "believe" the research, then nobody need ever again have any doubt that Dark energy exists. For all intensive purposes, its case closed and nobody can ever again say anything to disprove Dark energy. This is where i come into this; I have 100% proof that Dark energy does NOT exist. But at this moment in time, i'm not yet willing to publish my proof. But as i said before, people will find out the truth when the time is right. And that time will come soon! I always use "double quote marks" to highlight words and make them stand out. Yes, i admit this is probably my own bad English grammar and its possible i should use 'single quotes'. I'm sorry, even though English is my first language, i'm not very good at writing it. John. ____________ | |
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I've had a Revelation. Martin, I will tell you a secret about Johnney Guinness...... I don't drink! I haven't had an alcoholic drink since i started crunching for this SETI project back in September 2006. My avatar, my paddy's in space team website, and all the Guinness pictures and images i produce are my way of staying away from drink. I just like the Guinness branding. But i don't drink anymore! But before September 2006, i used to drink like a fish. I had to stop. John. ____________ | |
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I would think that people with religious faith would rejoice over the discovery and verification of the existence of dark energy and dark matter. Since they are such a complete mystery they should give new hope regarding the location of heaven and hell and a new possibility for the existence of an afterlife, angels and such. | |
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Johnney, you cannot qualify other people's research as "rubbish" even if you don't agree with them. You are simply insulting them. | |
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Johnney, you cannot qualify other people's research as "rubbish" even if you don't agree with them. You are simply insulting them. Good point Tullio, It was a bad choice of words. I should not have used the word rubbish. It was inappropriate of me to use that word. I apologise! Let me try again; The work these astronomers done is absolutely worthless. They spent hundreds of thousands of tax payers Euros working on fictitious Dark energy, that nobody has ever detected, that nobody has ever seen, nobody has ever touched, nobody has ever photographed, at any wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum. The scientific evidence for the existence of Dark energy is speculative at best! So even though nobody has ever detected Dark energy, and its a "theoretical construct" derived from mathematics, these astronomers have the nerve to claim 99.996% certainty that Dark energy exists. Its an outrage to the whole global scientific community!! No, its utterly shocking that these astronomers have been allowed to publish their science fiction paper. This is total and utter denigration of science, and an embarrassment that they are being allowed to mislead the global scientific community, and the general public. This is the pinnacle of bad science! Thanks Tullio, you were right. I did need to reword my description! John. ____________ | |
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I assume that Dark matter is a name assigned to something we don't understand. Clearly there is something there. It doesnt act like stuff we can and do detect. I'm betting we'll eventually figure out what exactly it is. | |
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Dark matter and dark energy are different things. One, dark matter, was called "missing mass" by Fritz Zwicky around 1935 and is related to the dynamics of spiral galaxies. It has never been contested as it is related to Newtonian mechanics, not even relativity. Dark energy is related to the fact that the expansion of the Universe (Hubble's law, although it should have been called Hubble-Lemaitre's law) seems to be accelerating This is based on the measurement of "standard candles", supernova Ia explosions, in distant galaxies. Both derive from astronomical observations and astronomers are investigating them using the gravitational lens effect on light foreseen by General Relativity. | |
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You know, Fritz Zwicky came up with the idea of "Tired light" to explain the apparent red shift of light from receding galaxies. He postulated that there was really no Doppler shift but that rather light lost energy in it's very long travel in the Universe. | |
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I have no knowledge of Johnney's theories since he does not publish them and hence I cannot judge them. Tullio, Ok, here is a question for you. Have you ever heard of anyone, an astronomer or physicist, on the TV or in books, saying anything like the things i say about Dark energy, Dark matter, Black holes, etc, etc? Have you ever heard anyone be so loud and vocal claiming that none of these things exist? Tullio you have to admit, i'm very persistent. For the last year and a half, i have continuously repeated the same message in one way or another. Tullio its good to be skeptical, but do you think i am raising any valid points? Are you even suspicious that maybe i might be right? Maybe, hidden in among all the complex maths, there might be an error that people are not seeing? John. ____________ | |
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Johhney knows that for the most part I agree with his interpretations of both Testaments of the Bible. I agree with previous ET visitations, I agree certain ancient monuments may have been built with alien knowledge although not actual help. But I think he is mistaken about this maths flaw. Instead the diagrams are approximate representations of boundary or contour surfaces where the probability density |ψ(r,θ,φ)|2 has a constant value, chosen so that there is a certain probability (for example 90%) of finding the electron within the contour. Orbitals There is no error, just science being realistic in their results. I would say to Johnney, concentrate on this old book he has found, finish the work off there and let us know his results. Leave this other stuff to one side, it's deflecting him from what he can best be doing with his time. | |
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Chris, | |
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It's real. We need to know more about it. Just a news update. | |
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Johnney, science has no Book of Revelation. There is no scientific Book coming from God. The Bible is not a scientific text. We Catholics have learned this from Galileo. You are trying to bring us back to the Middle Ages. You will not succeed. | |
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In my mind, there were never been any big bang, no black holes nor white holes, no dark matter but maybe some kind of black energy which should more be called invisible energy :P | |
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