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Message 1320556 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 22:05:41 UTC - in response to Message 1320534.

I have clearly posted here what God did before time started in our verse, as it has been written in the Bible. You either believe in God and the Bible as truth or you do not.

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Message 1320595 - Posted: 28 Dec 2012, 0:49:30 UTC - in response to Message 1320553.
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You would all be off topic. The question is what God did before Creation, not after creation.


None of you joined in the conversation on topic and are still off topic now.

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that is not true I said he delivered pizza.

But more to the point if god is infinite he she or it is unknowable.

there for any god that is knowable is a creation of man, any other view

is the height of arrogance.

so are you arrogant, or is it ok to say the universe is a neat place

but man does not know every thing yet:)


I don't claim to know anything about God more then what is in the Book.

And yes I struggle with arrogance, but a look around here will tell you that I do indeed have that under control as compared to others here.

What is knowable is within the Book called the Bible.

The universe is a very neat place, however man will never know every thing--ever. To say that is the height of arrogance.

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Message 1321175 - Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 7:05:27 UTC
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Q: What did God do before creation?

A: Nothing, really, because it really doesn't exist. Whichever one strikes your fancy the most, all gods were created by humans to meet the psychological needs of the humans that invented them. There's nothing wrong with using symbols to meet your psychological needs, unless you forget they're mere symbols. Then, an ancient person's symbols are using you, and that's just pathetic.
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Message 1321200 - Posted: 29 Dec 2012, 8:46:08 UTC

24 to 30 hour lock before this is a full out Flame Fest!
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Message 1322409 - Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 21:44:37 UTC - in response to Message 1279484.

So, just what did God do before creating the universe?
Was he just floating in nothingness?
Are we the creation of a bored supreme being?

Before everything began, there was nothing. Not even time and space.
What was God up to in the before time?

Wouldn't an eternity of solitude in nothingness drive any intelligent mind insane?
Are we the product of madness?


This was my original question. It seems straight forward enough to me, so why am I receiving notices of lockdowns on this thread?
I don't blame the mods, they aren't the one's who aren't getting along in here.

Religion claims to have all of the answers, science does not make such claims.
Science has no answer to what happened before time and space erupted from a singularity. This does not mean science will never know the answer but for now it's an unknown.

I'm still interested in what religious believers think their god was doing before creation? I don't care which god you follow.


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Message 1322437 - Posted: 30 Dec 2012, 22:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 1322409.

I'm still interested in what religious believers think their god was doing before creation? I don't care which god you follow.

If I may ask, to what end?
Do you hope to find something convincing in what they say?
Do you hope to dissuade them?
Or some third end I have not thought of?

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Message 1322602 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 12:43:56 UTC

This was my original question. It seems straight forward enough to me, so why am I receiving notices of lockdowns on this thread? I don't blame the mods, they aren't the one's who aren't getting along in here.

The mods job is to avoid :-

1. Messages intended to annoy or antagonize other people, or to hijack a thread.
2. No messages that are deliberately hostile or insulting.

They are simply doing their job, to avoid flaming.

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If I may ask, to what end?

Well exactly. Why would people bother to speculate upon this? The only reason that I can see is that they have doubts about the validity of gods.

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Message 1322723 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 17:22:55 UTC - in response to Message 1322409.

So, just what did God do before creating the universe?
Was he just floating in nothingness?
Are we the creation of a bored supreme being?

Before everything began, there was nothing. Not even time and space.
What was God up to in the before time?

Wouldn't an eternity of solitude in nothingness drive any intelligent mind insane?
Are we the product of madness?


This was my original question. It seems straight forward enough to me, so why am I receiving notices of lockdowns on this thread?
I don't blame the mods, they aren't the one's who aren't getting along in here.

Religion claims to have all of the answers, science does not make such claims.
Science has no answer to what happened before time and space erupted from a singularity. This does not mean science will never know the answer but for now it's an unknown.

I'm still interested in what religious believers think their god was doing before creation? I don't care which god you follow.





this is a basic question in philosophy It Is called causal first cause

the answer is left to the individual to decide because there is no set answer.

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Message 1322739 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 17:45:11 UTC

this is dancers roommate

what did god do before he created our universe? you ask.

he didn't do anything but she was cleaning up the majority of mater from the previous cycle since there is no beginning or end
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Message 1322743 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 17:53:52 UTC

The GOD, Before Creation, was Having A Good Time with The DEMON.

DEMON...Me and The GOD, We Had A Thang Going On. We Both Knew It Was Wrong, But It Was Much Too Strong.....and HOT.
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Message 1322756 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 18:19:03 UTC

What did God do before creation?

#gdb ./universe


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Message 1322784 - Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:39:02 UTC

"Sorry for the inconvenience" is as good an explanation as any for the time being... (See: Douglas Adams, HHGTTG)


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Message 1331299 - Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 21:44:47 UTC - in response to Message 1322784.

There's a logical way out of this kind of argument. It seems the general point of contention is 'what created THIS (the Universe) or us.

That's a presuppositional enquiry. It assumes that something had a creation at all. Our minds aren't evolved well to handle certain concepts. But we can. (e.g. Einstein [space time etc]

If the Universe is eternal then there is no causation required. It's a complex idea for our minds to comprehend. spatially. And if that's true it should be true in temporal dimension.

In other words, it doesn't matter where one observor starts his measure. No creation event need occur. Picture a point you make on a piece of paper with a pencil. Draw the line out indefinitely. That is an eternal line given that if it exists in physical space it goes on and on. That's a physical perameter.

If existence itself is the axiomatic point of existence then there shouldn't be a question over its validity. Philosophers like Leibniz asked 'Why is there something and not nothing'?.

We exist and would not be around to ask the questions he asks otherwise.


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