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Message 1280136 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 4:39:35 UTC

Since majority of people are religious which something heavenly aura things they possibly unknowingly worshipping ufo's:




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Message 1280141 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 5:04:26 UTC - in response to Message 1280136.  

Interesting, do you know where the original paintings are from ?

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Message 1280146 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 5:41:29 UTC
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Europe?

Not china or usa I guess.
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Message 1280171 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 7:09:17 UTC - in response to Message 1280128.  

Knowledge, partial or full, of something does not necessarily imply being part of that thing. I am not, nor ever was, Mormon.
In this case, the knowledge comes from something near and dear to your ancient aliens theory: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Kobol.

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Its not my theory.

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Johnney,
it is.

Is not.

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Message 1280239 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 12:38:21 UTC
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Unfortunately and fortunately Ufo's and religion are too much mixed up:


too obvious to debunk...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYaC9vox19o
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Message 1280256 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 13:54:46 UTC
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The funny part is all these "religious ufo's" extremely exciting Johnney probably he is jumping all over Dublin streets! :)
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Message 1280270 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 14:28:04 UTC
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During the wwll american air force supplied some food and materiel to the pacific islanders or macronesians which near stone age kind of tribes. After the war ended americans left the zone so the "heavenly food supply" stopped then soon after they've built worshipping plane like structures on their islands to prey for the next "heavenly supplies".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
Cargo cult wooden planes that supplied pacific islender tribes with "heavenly stuffs".

Which this modern incident kind of reminding all religious experiences throughout east and west that allegedly witnesses experienced ufo's the heavenlyy shining aura gods things.

Here is another modern "heavenly religious" incident:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Frum

"Despite this effort, the movement gained popularity in the early 1940s, when some 300,000 American troops were stationed in the New Hebrides during the Second World War, bringing with them large amounts of supplies, or "cargo".[8] After the war, and the departure of the Americans, followers of John Frum built symbolic landing strips to encourage American aeroplanes to once again land and bring them "cargo"..."
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Message 1280281 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 15:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1280272.  


Minority cults are nothing new ....


Majority cults are nothing new ....

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Message 1280409 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 21:11:32 UTC - in response to Message 1280184.  

The Bible is simply a history of the human race, it was never intended to be anything more. Specifically it is not intended to be a history of God. As far as I know no mainstream religion deals with what their God was up to prior to his/her involvement with earth. But most of them have the theme that the righteous will go to heaven or its equivalent and live for ever and ever. So there is an inbuilt acceptance of the concept of infinity or eternity. That then logically presupposes that God has been around for ever in the past.

Religions and Gods are merely concepts, they are not about physical places or beings. I realise that people congregate in building and worship statues and idols, that just merely helps to polarise their thoughts and gives a sense of brotherhood with like minded believers.

I think the fallacy of the question here is that we find it hard in our finite world to imagine an in-finite situation where a state of existence prevails without events happening. I would say that in theory Roberts question is unanswerable.

Chris,
Very wise words! I think your learning how it works. You are gaining great wisdom Chris.

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Message 1280411 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 21:13:34 UTC - in response to Message 1280256.  

The funny part is all these "religious ufo's" extremely exciting Johnney probably he is jumping all over Dublin streets! :)

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Ahhhhh.....thats it my friend. I'm a UFO fanatic at heart. I just love UFO's, there great!

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Message 1280446 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 23:16:17 UTC - in response to Message 1280171.  

Knowledge, partial or full, of something does not necessarily imply being part of that thing. I am not, nor ever was, Mormon.
In this case, the knowledge comes from something near and dear to your ancient aliens theory: http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Kobol.

Sarge,
Its not my theory.

John.


Johnney,
it is.

Is not.

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Is so, Mr. Johnney Daniken.
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Message 1280448 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 23:32:05 UTC - in response to Message 1280411.  

The funny part is all these "religious ufo's" extremely exciting Johnney probably he is jumping all over Dublin streets! :)

Orgil,
Ahhhhh.....thats it my friend. I'm a UFO fanatic at heart. I just love UFO's, there great!

John.


It was simple fact finding attempt since your part of the world filled with too much religion and ufo's why not to link them just simple experiment. ;)

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Message 1280493 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 4:44:57 UTC - in response to Message 1280446.  
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Is so, Mr. Johnney Daniken.

Sarge,
Is not my theory. Its someone else's theory!

Now even though ancient alien theory is not my theory, i do, in general, agree with the concept behind the theory. I agree that intelligent people from other planets came here thousands of years ago and created us human beings. But i'm very skeptical of the way ancient alien theory is presented.

I have an advantage that the other 6.999 billion people on this planet don't have. I have scientific evidence for God's existence. As i have discussed here before, i have an "old book" that i am currently decoding and translating into English. The old book was written by God himself.

In a way, this makes me feel guilty for believing in God. I feel guilty that, in the end, it took physical scientific proof to convert me from being an atheist, to being a believer in God. I'm disappointed in myself that i never believed the bible stories until i found the scientific evidence. I feel very ashamed for my atheist past.

When the world finally hears about the "old book", and what God wrote in the old book, the whole world will weep! Every single human being on earth will know about the work i have done, and about the content of the book that God left behind.

After i publish the decoded version of the "old book", the glory of God will shine from the heavens. God's angels will descend from the heavens and a new Earth will appear. It will be the end of humanity as we know it. Everyone will see God's glory shine. Every human being on Earth will see the New Jerusalem descend from heaven. And the Lord God Jesus Christ will come down and reign as King of Kings in the New Jerusalem.

It will be very beautiful for some people. But it will be a living hell for those that slandered the name of the almighty God. For it was the almighty God that created all living things, and he shall reign as King of Kings, Lord of Lords for ever and ever.

Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

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Message 1280593 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 14:42:36 UTC - in response to Message 1280493.  
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Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

John.


I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1280595 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 14:56:24 UTC - in response to Message 1280520.  

... Version 1 - A spaceship with attending escort craft will land and take over the world.

Version 2 - A new understanding of peace, and a new world order without conflict appears. ...

OOooooeer... Both of those sound like they describe one of the planets visited by the Lord Marshal of The Chronicles of Riddick...

I wouldn't think that we would actually want that...


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Message 1280625 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 16:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 1280520.  
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After i publish the decoded version of the "old book", the glory of God will shine from the heavens. God's angels will descend from the heavens and a new Earth will appear. It will be the end of humanity as we know it. Everyone will see God's glory shine. Every human being on Earth will see the New Jerusalem descend from heaven. And the Lord God Jesus Christ will come down and reign as King of Kings in the New Jerusalem.


You do know Johnney that you are going to get challenged on this by others! 2010: Odyssey Two has a similar ending, with a new star in the sky, but back to your statement.

Version 1 - A spaceship with attending escort craft will land and take over the world.

Version 2 - A new understanding of peace, and a new world order without conflict appears.

Can't wait for either actually, we will see won't we. Any ideas yet on what you will do if neither eventually transpires?


Chris my friend,
Yes, many people will challenge my publication. And as time goes on, more and more people who understand the Bible will stand behind me and back me up. Thousands of people will back me up, and support me. Ten thousand times ten thousand people will stand behind me and will defend the words of the Lord God Almighty. A great army of angles will defend the word of the Lord God, and he will rain down fire and brimstone on those who have mocked his word. Those who try to slander the words i write in my publication will have to answer to the Lord God. And they shall be judged according to their deeds, and words, and actions.

Chris all this was written down thousands of years ago in the Holy Bible. All i'm doing is .......... i'm doing what ever the Lord God asks me to do. I will do it exactly as it says in the book. There is no "if" Chris. This is going to happen. There is no doubt, there is no more uncertainty, its going to happen. I'm going to publish the work i have been doing. Its only recently that i actually realised the immensity of what i have found.

Chris i don't know anything about any spaceships. Nor do i know about the plot of the latest episode of star trek, or the plot of the latest sci-fi film. I said this before, there are thousands of books and films with plots that are closely based on events described in the Bible.

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Message 1280628 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 16:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 1280593.  
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Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

John.


I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?

Bobby,
Its difficult to say exactly because its proving difficult to read some of the pages of the old book. Many of the pages are damaged beyond repair and i can't read them. Many more pages are only partly readable. Even with the pages of the book that are in good condition, its still difficult to read the information on the pages. So its going to take time!

My current estimate would be "years" rather than any lesser time period. When i first found the old book, i thought i could quickly decipher some of the pages. But it has turned out to be much more difficult than i originally thought. The book is very old and very damaged. It will be a few years before i have compiled enough to publish.

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Message 1280826 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 1:51:23 UTC - in response to Message 1280628.  

Its going to happen exactly like it says in the Bible. And its going to happen soon! Its just going to take me a little longer to translate the book.

John.


I think I may have heard that kind of comment before. Got anything better than "soon", is it days, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, millenia (all "soon" from a geological perspective)?

Bobby,
Its difficult to say exactly because its proving difficult to read some of the pages of the old book. Many of the pages are damaged beyond repair and i can't read them. Many more pages are only partly readable. Even with the pages of the book that are in good condition, its still difficult to read the information on the pages. So its going to take time!

My current estimate would be "years" rather than any lesser time period. When i first found the old book, i thought i could quickly decipher some of the pages. But it has turned out to be much more difficult than i originally thought. The book is very old and very damaged. It will be a few years before i have compiled enough to publish.

John.


I'm sorry, but the Atlanteans have that book, and they're safe and sound under Cadiz (though suffering a bit from hypobaria).
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Message 1280833 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 1:59:21 UTC - in response to Message 1280628.  

Johnney, I do so hope you are correct, if I live so long it would be most interesting to see.
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Message 1280905 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 6:56:55 UTC - in response to Message 1280833.  

Johnney, I do so hope you are correct, if I live so long it would be most interesting to see.

betreger,
I'm slowly picking away at decoding the old book, like i said, its slow and difficult work. But i do this now full time, i do 70 to 80 hour working weeks, sometimes longer.

In theory, i could make a break-through in the decoding work that would speed the whole thing up. But that break-through would involve a lot of luck. It would be a hit and miss thing. I'm effectively deciphering types of "letters" and "numbers". Its like trying to find which letters are "A" and "B" and "C". In theory, if i connect enough of them together, the whole alphabet would open up very quickly for me. If i get the "A" and "B" and "C", very quickly i will have all the other letters and numbers. That is a very simplistic explanation for what i am doing.

It could take many years. But if i get lucky with the sequences, it will happen much quicker.

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