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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? We are the only ones self-aware, with a conscience. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? ======================================================= Have you looked at congress lately seems like a lot of slime mold has been created there. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? Has anyone attempted to? Are you sure it hasn't been done? |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
No such thing as a simple cell. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? It has indeed been attempted. Originally, success was touted. Unfortunately, I cannot find anything that still touts it as a success. I guess the beaker was contaminated? I do not know where I originally heard of the experiment. I'd like to say "Cosmos", but something tells me I am wrong. [EDIT]I guess it was covered in Cosmos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet1xkAv_HY. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
That would be called---Walking it back. :-} |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30650 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? I believe you missed a word at about 28 seconds and the same at about 58 seconds. It is an experiment to build amino acids and it worked. AFIK no one has tried to go from amino acids to life. Bit harder to put a black smoker and a tide pool in a flask. |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? Indeed you didn't say "man should have", you asked "why hasn't". When one asks "why hasn't such and such thing been done" the implication is that it should have been done. If you did not intend the implication then my apologies, otherwise you are being disingenuous. How does one know anything? What in the quoted post suggests I know anything of what took place billions of years ago? Nature to me encompasses all things all matter/energy, forces, their interactions and everything that arises from them. And to your final question, yes, for instance, my parents had sex about 9 months before I was born, while I did not witness the event, it has been proven to my satisfaction. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20285 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
...[EDIT]I guess it was covered in Cosmos! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet1xkAv_HY. What life and what mechanics implementing that life? Some good food for thought: Artificial life Non-cellular life Hypothetical types of biochemistry Now to cook your cookie... Are we God to the a-life forms when we run an a-life simulation on a computer? What of the Matrix?... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20285 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Why hasn't man been able to create even a simple single celled form of life yet? For doing that the 'hard way' outside the machinery of cellular life, various groups are indeed putting together the tools and examples for doing just that. However, the immense detail required is expensive and so there is a long way to go yet... There's going to be some fantastic medical spin-offs as a result. As for why we're not able... Well, we are! Looks like I've been beaten to that answer for working within the existing cellular machinery! Keep searchin' Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
You would all be off topic. The question is what God did before Creation, not after creation. None of you joined in the conversation on topic and are still off topic now. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
Nobody has yet proved there is a god, therefore how can anyone guess or imagine what one might have been doing before "creation". Nobody has proved that any god created us either, therefore it is a nonsense question. Time? It isn't wasted. It's ignored at our own peril. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
+1 |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
I have clearly posted here what God did before time started in our verse, as it has been written in the Bible. You either believe in God and the Bible as truth or you do not. |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
You would all be off topic. The question is what God did before Creation, not after creation. ================================================ that is not true I said he delivered pizza. But more to the point if god is infinite he she or it is unknowable. there for any god that is knowable is a creation of man, any other view is the height of arrogance. so are you arrogant, or is it ok to say the universe is a neat place but man does not know every thing yet:) |
dancer42 Send message Joined: 2 Jun 02 Posts: 455 Credit: 2,422,890 RAC: 1 |
I have clearly posted here what God did before time started in our verse, as it has been written in the Bible. You either believe in God and the Bible as truth or you do not. =========================================================== Take comfort in your book, but I recommend that you take your moral's from the new testament rather than the old it will make you a kinder person. |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
You would all be off topic. The question is what God did before Creation, not after creation. I don't claim to know anything about God more then what is in the Book. And yes I struggle with arrogance, but a look around here will tell you that I do indeed have that under control as compared to others here. What is knowable is within the Book called the Bible. The universe is a very neat place, however man will never know every thing--ever. To say that is the height of arrogance. |
Reed Young Send message Joined: 23 Feb 06 Posts: 122 Credit: 81,383 RAC: 0 |
Q: What did God do before creation? A: Nothing, really, because it really doesn't exist. Whichever one strikes your fancy the most, all gods were created by humans to meet the psychological needs of the humans that invented them. There's nothing wrong with using symbols to meet your psychological needs, unless you forget they're mere symbols. Then, an ancient person's symbols are using you, and that's just pathetic. |
Jim_S Send message Joined: 23 Feb 00 Posts: 4705 Credit: 64,560,357 RAC: 31 |
24 to 30 hour lock before this is a full out Flame Fest! I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59 |
So, just what did God do before creating the universe? This was my original question. It seems straight forward enough to me, so why am I receiving notices of lockdowns on this thread? I don't blame the mods, they aren't the one's who aren't getting along in here. Religion claims to have all of the answers, science does not make such claims. Science has no answer to what happened before time and space erupted from a singularity. This does not mean science will never know the answer but for now it's an unknown. I'm still interested in what religious believers think their god was doing before creation? I don't care which god you follow. I do not fight fascists because I think I can win. I fight them because they are fascists. Chris Hedges A riot is the language of the unheard. -Martin Luther King, Jr. |
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