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Message 1280909 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 7:08:38 UTC - in response to Message 1280826.  
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I'm sorry, but the Atlanteans have that book, and they're safe and sound under Cadiz (though suffering a bit from hypobaria).

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Yea, i saw that program on Discovery channel too. The evidence to suggest that Atlantis is on the south west coast of Spain is very thin indeed. If Atlantis ever did exist, it was probably somewhere in the Caribbean. No, i didn't get the old book in Atlantis, unfortunately.....LOL

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Message 1280939 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 10:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 1280925.  
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If i get the "A" and "B" and "C", very quickly i will have all the other letters and numbers. That is a very simplistic explanation for what i am doing.

It could take many years. But if i get lucky with the sequences, it will happen much quicker.

This seems to suggest that the texts you are working with are in a foreign language or hieroglyphics. Why not use the basic rule of decryption where you work on the most common letters in a language first. In English they are in order, ETAOIN.

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Thanks Chris,
Thanks for the link. I added it to my notes!

Chris as i said, that example is very simplistic. But its a very good analogy for what i'm doing. And yes, you could say the old book is in a foreign language. Thats a very reasonable description, to say the least!

I am very aware of the use of frequency analysis in decoding cryptographic information. I have been attacking the problem from many very different angles. And i have made progress in the last year and a half. I have over 50 Gigabytes of data stored at this stage and i have purchased back-up hard disks for storing large amounts of data. I have everything backed up on a 2 Terabyte hard drive just in case anything goes wrong. I have also given instruction to family members as to what to do in the event of my accidental death or if i'm incapacitated in some way. So no matter what happens, people are going to hear about the work i have done. Even if i'm killed in a car accident or something like that. I'm covering every angle. If i'm killed by accident, the information will go to my Son when he reaches 18 years of age, with instructions about what to do with the information.

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Message 1280963 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 11:14:42 UTC

He was waiting for his computer to boot up so he could play his own version of Sim Universe
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Message 1284026 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 11:24:54 UTC - in response to Message 1280939.  

Erm.... as you've got the data in electronic form, how about letting us have a look at a page or two?
Never know, may help speed things up a bit!
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Message 1284163 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 17:32:34 UTC - in response to Message 1279484.  

Robert I have the answer.
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Message 1284201 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 18:57:07 UTC - in response to Message 1280963.  

He was waiting for his computer to boot up so he could play his own version of Sim Universe

ROFLMAO......we are all Sims.
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Message 1284206 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:05:20 UTC - in response to Message 1284026.  
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Erm.... as you've got the data in electronic form, how about letting us have a look at a page or two?
Never know, may help speed things up a bit!
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Phil,
Over the last year and a half, i have discussed many aspects of the "old book" i am researching here on these SETI message boards. I have posted lots of information about the old book. But Phil i have never told anyone the name of the old book, nor have i ever given enough information for anyone to find the old book by reading my messages. I can't Phil, i can't give out the name of the book until my decoding work is complete. But there is tonnes of information on the internet about the old book.

Phil i also told everyone here that the old book is NOT hidden. In fact its on public display and many millions of people have seen the old book. Every year, millions of people see the book and everybody knows about the old book. Academics in universities study the old book on a professional basis, they do it full time. So its not hidden is any way. Everybody is completely free to do exactly the same research that i am doing. Nobody is stopping you, all the information is public.

If your curious about what i have said about the old book, your welcome to comb through the old messages i have posted on this forum over the last year and a half. But it will take you several hours to read all my old messages.

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Message 1284210 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:21:11 UTC
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What did God do before creation?

Asking questions "Robert" to which you will not be satisfied unless and until you hear the answers you want to hear is not rational; something you claim to be.


"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, by which He made us accepted in the Beloved."
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And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
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You cannot even tell us how we was created. You cannot prove that all of this "creation" was by chance. You cannot tell me with proof that there is no God. You cannot prove anything that you claim yet you want me to believe that you are rational and sincere in your questions. Just by the way you have asked it is clear that you are neither rational and or sincere.

So, what is it that you really want? Argument till I lose my temper and get kicked off again? Kicked off for the something that everyone else does yet they still remain? Are you all keeping score or something? What is it that you really want. Don't B.S. me Robert, you can't B.S. me. I see right through all of you. Transparent as cheap toilet paper most of you are.
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Message 1284212 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 19:23:56 UTC

God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.
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Message 1284294 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:08:20 UTC - in response to Message 1284212.  

God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.

Meow!

That is a seriously good answer for the Believers.


However, that still leaves the question of all the inconsistencies and dogma that cloud the story of what "He" (She/It?) actually might have done...

Too much Anthropomorphism clouding the beer/whiskey?...


Keep searchin',
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Message 1284296 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:19:03 UTC - in response to Message 1284210.  

ID, it is good to see you return, your cogent thinking provides insight for many. I do think you take too many breaks. OBW, I have never used a red x except for my own double posts.
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Message 1284298 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:23:14 UTC - in response to Message 1284294.  
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God created the heavens and the earth.

And you question when, how, why, and where He did so?

LOL, I should think the accomplishment would speak for itself.

Some of you make me grin.

Meow!

That is a seriously good answer for the Believers.


However, that still leaves the question of all the inconsistencies and dogma that cloud the story of what "He" (She/It?) actually might have done...

Too much Anthropomorphism clouding the beer/whiskey?...


Keep searchin',
Martin

Not so, my friend.

I think my simply starting these threads on the subject and proclaiming my belief does Him justice.

So few these days would even bother to do so.

I have opened myself to such ridicule as the heathens might throw at me.
Compared to Jesus, a very small price to pay.

Sling them rocks now, boyz.
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Message 1284302 - Posted: 15 Sep 2012, 23:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 1284296.  

ID, it is good to see you return, your cogent thinking provides insight for many. I do think you take too many breaks. OBW, I have never used a red x except for my own double posts.


Forced breaks. As I said, done NOTHING that no one else have ever done yet I'm the one forced to take a vacation. Defined as Intellectual cowardice for MANY here.

I have no reason not to believe you about the x'es. Fair enough.
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Message 1284320 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 0:36:10 UTC - in response to Message 1279484.  

So, just what did God do before creating the universe?

Probably not a lot, he doesn't exist.

Next...
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Message 1284331 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 1:20:14 UTC - in response to Message 1284320.  

So, just what did God do before creating the universe?

Probably not a lot, he doesn't exist.

Next...

Not in your world, I guess.
He exists in mine.

You are entitled.
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Message 1284380 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 3:52:46 UTC - in response to Message 1284210.  


So, what is it that you really want? Argument till I lose my temper and get kicked off again? Kicked off for the something that everyone else does yet they still remain? Are you all keeping score or something? What is it that you really want. Don't B.S. me Robert, you can't B.S. me. I see right through all of you. Transparent as cheap toilet paper most of you are.


So just answer the question without insults and cuss words.
It's a simple question.

If no one can give a reasonable answer, there's no need to get dramatic by blowing a hissy-fit.
Science has no answer for what went on before expansion. The standard theory is that time began with the big bang and there was nothing before. I'm not taking that fact as a personal insult. I can live with the admission that not all is known at this time.

I just want to know what religion has for an answer.
Did God exist before creation? If so, what the hell was he doing with his time?

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Message 1284386 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 4:31:11 UTC - in response to Message 1284380.  


So, what is it that you really want? Argument till I lose my temper and get kicked off again? Kicked off for the something that everyone else does yet they still remain? Are you all keeping score or something? What is it that you really want. Don't B.S. me Robert, you can't B.S. me. I see right through all of you. Transparent as cheap toilet paper most of you are.


So just answer the question without insults and cuss words.
It's a simple question.

If no one can give a reasonable answer, there's no need to get dramatic by blowing a hissy-fit.
Science has no answer for what went on before expansion. The standard theory is that time began with the big bang and there was nothing before. I'm not taking that fact as a personal insult. I can live with the admission that not all is known at this time.

I just want to know what religion has for an answer.
Did God exist before creation? If so, what the hell was he doing with his time?


I answered your question, Robert. The Bible quotes I posted that you short quoted me on.

I'll do you one even better and answer the tag that you have below...

"When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist."
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James, chapter 2

14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has no food for the day,

16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, keep warm, and eat well,” but you do not give them the necessities of the body, what good is it?

17 So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 Indeed someone might say, “You have faith and I have works.” Demonstrate your faith to me without works, and I will demonstrate my faith to you from my works.
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Message 1284389 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 4:49:36 UTC - in response to Message 1284386.  


I answered your question, Robert. The Bible quotes I posted that you short quoted me on.



OK, if that's good enough an answer for you, so be it.
I just cannot fathom a sentient being existing as a singularity (not the black hole type) for the eternity before creation.

Alone forever in the blackness of nothingness, could even a god remain sane?



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Message 1284390 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 4:52:16 UTC - in response to Message 1284210.  
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.....You cannot even tell us how we was created. You cannot prove that all of this "creation" was by chance. You cannot tell me with proof that there is no God. You cannot prove anything that you claim yet you want me to believe that you are rational and sincere in your questions....

And that is the problem with these discussions. Neither side can provide "scientific grade" proof to prove themselves right or the other wrong. Therefore the discussion just keeps going round in circles.

Lack of proof "for" is not proof "against" and visa versa. And "proof" from only one biased source is not valid.

There is as much evidence to prove the existence of Krishna as there is Yahweh or the random coalescing of chemicals to form proteins.

This is a matter of faith not facts. Lets just live and let live without getting our undies twisted.

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Message 1284396 - Posted: 16 Sep 2012, 5:45:42 UTC

Before Creation, GOD did a lot of Design Work. Designing takes a lot of thought. Lots of Rough Drafts. All in The Virtual Mind and on Virtual Paper.

Once GOD produced a Design which would Create A Universe, HE got to Work. Prototypes First. Then as GOD produced A More Stable Model of Universe, HE was ready for The Big Bang. The Real Thing Hubble is seeing today.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Shocka Locka BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

GOD using Perseverance, Intelligence and Creativity had his Universe.

We Like what we see when looking up into the Night Sky. This Earth is pretty Dang Good Stuff.

GOD did a Good Job. Good Work.

GOD Created An Intelligent Design.

EarthGoesBoooooooooooooooooooomWithBigBangFromSunFourthAngel

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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