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Message 1280514 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 7:44:46 UTC
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I won't rise to the obvious bait Bobby, I've been around too long.

However I will give you an an example of the differences I meant. Assuming someone's speech is not broadcast on radio or televised, then what is said is probably limited to an audience of few hundred or thousand. Therefore any negative comments don't permeate to far. In the case of newspaper articles the intended audience is many millions.

No-one is going to worry too much about the local nutters wandering up and down the high street with their sandwich boards proclaiming this or that, but constant mud slinging in the national press does have an insidious effect.
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Message 1280516 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 7:55:14 UTC
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I would suggest that a much higher percentage of British people would be upset and object to the burning of the Union Jack, than would be the case with the American people and the Stars and Stripes.

Does that give the USA more freedom of expression that the UK? No it doesn't, but what is does do is highlight the general higher lack of respect for their own flag and administration than over here. Does the right to carry guns and burn flags make the States a better country to live in?
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Message 1280590 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 14:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 1280516.  
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I would suggest that a much higher percentage of British people would be upset and object to the burning of the Union Jack, than would be the case with the American people and the Stars and Stripes.

Does that give the USA more freedom of expression that the UK? No it doesn't, but what is does do is highlight the general higher lack of respect for their own flag and administration than over here. Does the right to carry guns and burn flags make the States a better country to live in?


You are joking aren't you?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1280591 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 14:34:56 UTC - in response to Message 1280514.  

I won't rise to the obvious bait Bobby, I've been around too long.

However I will give you an an example of the differences I meant. Assuming someone's speech is not broadcast on radio or televised, then what is said is probably limited to an audience of few hundred or thousand. Therefore any negative comments don't permeate to far. In the case of newspaper articles the intended audience is many millions.

No-one is going to worry too much about the local nutters wandering up and down the high street with their sandwich boards proclaiming this or that, but constant mud slinging in the national press does have an insidious effect.


Seems to me these issues would be better addressed by making it cheaper to sue for libel than regulating the press.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1280843 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 2:55:44 UTC - in response to Message 1279505.  

Gray, gray... I see only gray.

Yes here in the USA we have free speech, but I rarely post my views in Politics because I fear repercussion. Eric makes his living off of publicly funded grants, especially for his non-seti projects. In the current rabid political climate we have in this country, it would not take much for me to offend some people. This is a very public place. I fear some idiot senator on some powerful committee getting wind of my social, religious or political leanings and somehow being biased against my husband.

I know this sounds silly, but I fear it none the less. Yes I may legally have free speech, but if you want to know what I REALLY think, you will have to get to know me on a more personal level.

Self censoring.

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Message 1280861 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 3:55:01 UTC
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Eh. grey, grey - or gray, gray?

I am never becoming used to this stuff.

What is the correct thing to say?

Except for they being the "alien thing", of course.

I guess you never see or hear them, of course.
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Message 1280955 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 11:01:51 UTC - in response to Message 1280861.  

Eh. grey, grey - or gray, gray?

I am never becoming used to this stuff.

What is the correct thing to say?

Except for they being the "alien thing", of course.

I guess you never see or hear them, of course.


I the USA Gray is standard, In Britain Grey is.

Canada and Australia, heck I can not keep track.

In North America we have lakes, in Scotland we have Lochs.

The short answer::

Both are correct. But either could be marked as incorrect
on a test, depending on geography.

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