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Message 1280700 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 19:31:40 UTC - in response to Message 1280680.
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Where are these new plants?
Where's the equipment?
Where are the houses?
Where are the new home owners?
WHERE ARE THE JOBS?!?


As Long As The OBlabby Gravy Train is still running, they wait for The Moola to be Handed Out.

Once Election Night sees OBlabby Inc. defeated, they will stop being Dogs Looking For Hand-Outs and become Wolves On The Prowl.

And they will start "Building That" will this Large Cache Of Dough everyone says they have.

Once R & R is Leading The Way, ALL WILL KNOW it is Time To Build It with Your Own Minds, Hands, and Money, 'cause The Gravy Train Is Derailed. Daddy Government will Part The Sea and The Chariots Of Industry will be Kicking Up The Dust to The New America. YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Capiche? Good.

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Wayt a minnit. So youse be sayin dey duez gots da mooolah money, but dey be sittin on it fo dese fo yearz cuz dey be wannin' Barry be a one term precedent? But dat dey won be sittin on it if one deir own be da winner? Oooh, yessir, Lawdy, I vote fo yo man, cuz I believe his promises dat he will release da flood gates affa Novemmer, provided we let him win. Darn I haffa do dis, cuz sittin on da moolah money be reprehessibul, but I so want him be movin us forward affa Novemmer! VOTE ROMNEY!

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Message 1280708 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 19:58:40 UTC

I vote for the Modern Whig Party.

Why not? no one else does ....

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Message 1280788 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 22:24:44 UTC - in response to Message 1280620.
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Sarge,

The new plants are the Spring Hill expansion for GM and the Nissan add-on here in Murphreesboro Tennessee.-1200 new jobs en toto. Huge new Volkswagen plant in Chattanooga TN thousands of jobs there too. Get the government out of the way and there would be even more.

New homes are a-building all over Middle TN

Where do you live? In a state with high taxes and no right-to-work provisions ??

Come down and visit. I'll cook you a fabulous meal and take you on a tour.

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Message 1280795 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 22:56:05 UTC - in response to Message 1280788.

WM, with income stats like :The median income for a household in the city was $39,705, and the median income for a family was $52,654. Males had a median income of $36,078 versus $26,531 for females. The per capita income for the city was $20,219. About 8.2% of families and 14.1% of the population were below the poverty line, including 12.0% of those under the age of 18 and 11.1% of those 65 and older.
You have much to crow about!
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Message 1280797 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 23:03:08 UTC

So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama?

The question and how it is worded supposes that Obama is a problem to be dealt with, which is insulting.

Ultimately what kind of government we have, economic system we use, the programs we do or don't pay for, and how large or small or military is don't matter. Sure it may matter today or in a few years but in the scale of history most of what we do has very little effect beyond even the length of our lives. Never mind in a few hundred years. Can you tell me what the tax rate was in 1912? does it really have any bearing what so ever on your life? In 75 years will anyone remember anything about our current our current policies?

However there is one subject that is commonly addressed that will effect us and every generation that follows, The Environment.

The Republican Party and its denial of what has long been established Scientific fact give me no choice.
Global Climate change is real, it is the only issue of real long term importance. Short of thermo nuclear war it is the only issue that will effect my grandchildrens grandchildren.

It informs my vote. As long as the republican party embraces the denial of science I will never vote for them.
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Message 1280799 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 23:08:32 UTC

That was not a military plane! That was not a military plane!

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Message 1280801 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 23:39:22 UTC - in response to Message 1280708.
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The median income for a household in the city was $39,705,


I presume you mean Nashville Metro. That's not a bad number when you figure that probably half of Nashville's (within the city)limit population doesn't work at all.

I am not talking about the inner city gettos. I am talking about the progress made in the State of TN. Check the conditions in Newark, Chicago, Detroit etc.

I live in Williamson county TN. Check out the per capita income there. The per capita income is $41,000 and there are probably an average of three people per household; so we are probably over $100,000 in household income. Additionally the cost of living is extremely low here--no State income Tax--low property taxes etc.

What is your household income ?? Where do you live ??

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Message 1280809 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 0:05:07 UTC - in response to Message 1280801.

Wm, remember I don't work, I am one of those retired parasites. I live an hour west, 15 miles from Seattle.
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Message 1280985 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 12:34:59 UTC
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Message 1281017 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 14:36:09 UTC - in response to Message 1280985.

I know it is difficult to watch a President attempt to do what he says, be supportive of the working class, and try to make things better being stifled by
a congress(regress). And we are supposed to be upset about.. the President??
Who got elected without the help of Diebold?

I will continue to support his leadership despite the doom and gloom being PREACHED by the teapublicans.
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Message 1281030 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 15:15:48 UTC

So, what do we, as a nation, do about Obama?

Vote him back in, or vote him out.

Next question.

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Message 1281037 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 15:31:17 UTC

I dont like either one of the Bozo's running. One of them justs wants to kiss the the religous an or richmans butt, And on the other a guy who promises us change.

I havent seen a sorry ass bunch of canidates since Johnson and Goldwater and to be fair Gore and Bush.

What ever happend to the premise of getting the best and brightest to run for office. Seems we get the stupid and stupidest. Well we get what we vote for.

I will vote, But for who I have no idea. Seems like we are going to get it shoved up our posterier no matter who wins.
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Message 1281045 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 15:50:51 UTC - in response to Message 1281017.
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Message 1281050 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 15:58:02 UTC

I vote for the Modern Whig Party.

Why not? no one else does ..


All vote for them, what a hoot that would be .....

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Message 1281055 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 16:04:49 UTC - in response to Message 1281037.

I dont like either one of the Bozo's running. One of them justs wants to kiss the the religous an or richmans butt, And on the other a guy who promises us change.

I havent seen a sorry ass bunch of canidates since Johnson and Goldwater and to be fair Gore and Bush.

What ever happend to the premise of getting the best and brightest to run for office. Seems we get the stupid and stupidest. Well we get what we vote for.

I will vote, But for who I have no idea. Seems like we are going to get it shoved up our posterier no matter who wins.


Its all about image.

Consider the music industry 60 years ago and at present.

Kate Smith wouldn't have a career let alone a record contract. Image is everything. From Madonna to Lady gaga, its about how they look and less about the music. Honestly, todays pop music is just an abomination. everyone sounds pretty much like everyone else and the clothing styles become more exaggerated to be different that we ignore that they are playing the same songs.

Now talk about politicians. More exotic and strange ideas. Strange because hearing the same old thing that works is boring. We want different things, yet we still want the same thing. Boring works. Exotic hasn't you get to pick the prety face that wins
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Message 1281063 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 16:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1281045.

The economy was tanked by Bush. And every time Obama tried to get the economy rolling again, the Teapublicans have screamed NONONONONO.

Try to compromise? NO. Try to work together? No. Try to get some relief to the middle classes? NO.

Fortunately at least we got a health care bill done. He has proposed legislation, much of which passed in the senate with bipartisan support, but the congressional cat-herders made sure nothing got through.

Dubya managed to get through by lies, deceit and corruption almost anything he wanted. Anyone that got in his way was branded as unamerican for not supporting the president. These same people who try to paint us as unamerican for SUPPORTING the president.

Hypocrites, Swindlers, Theives. Your Teapublican dream.
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Message 1281114 - Posted: 7 Sep 2012, 17:53:43 UTC

Religious right wing wacko's.....EVEN ON THE SETI FORUM.

You would think a belief in the possibility of extra-terrestrial life and science couldn't coexist in the same mind as religious anti-science bigotry.

Its very strange.

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Message 1281231 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 0:52:01 UTC - in response to Message 1281063.

The economy was tanked by Bush.

The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3rd 2007. That was the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress. The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this:

January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
George Bush's Economic policies set a record of 52 straight months of job growth.

Remember the day... January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? Banking and financial services.

To add to this crises by dumping 5-6 trillion dollars of toxic loans on the economy from your Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac via the Bill Clinton signed revision to the Jimmy Carter era Community Reinvestment Act.

Bush asked Congress 17 times to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? Senator Obama. Remember his ACORN was suing banks left and right over the new provisions in the Community Reinvestment Act forcing them to make toxic loans.

And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? the Democratic Congress.

Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democratic Party.

Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008, 2009, 2010 & 2011.

In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

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Message 1281243 - Posted: 8 Sep 2012, 1:52:50 UTC
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Gary, a lot of truth in your talking points. A couple of talking points I also like are 2 unfunded wars for the short term. and for the long term, the fact, IMO is the restructuring of the economy starting with the sainted Ronald Reagan. The economies tanking started a long time ago with both political parties very culpable but I feel the Republicans took control of the direction. Few of the people had a good memory of the "great depression" and no longer saw the need for adult supervision, so they choose short term gain instead of long term stability. It's a F...ing mess and the question is does the country have the fortitude for shared sacrifice or do we explore new territories?
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