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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Of the examples I quoted which ones do you count as slackers, leeches, lazy etc. we have answered. You just do not like the answer. Again. A high income paying 10% even if that is $100,000,000 is not paying their fair share of taxes compared to someone who is paying 33%. The high income person not paying their fair share IS the leech. Anyone who manipulates policy to pay less is the slime of the earth. Not the working class(currently being sent to the poor house to further "high income" profits. And shame on you for standing up for them. Janice |
Terror Australis Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1817 Credit: 262,693,308 RAC: 44 |
Not afraid to answer it, I sincerely do not understand it. You talk about "slackers", "leeches" etc. but you do not define what you mean by those titles except to say they are "lazy". At first I thought you were referring to amount of income tax these people were paying (or not paying), but you claim this is not the case. In a discussion like this, the terms "slackers", "leeches" and "lazy" are open to interpretation depending on the views of the person using them. This is why in my first post I listed a number of groups that I thought might fit your definition. How many leeches should a high income person carry? Is a rather open question. Until I can understand your definition of "leech" my answer could vary from none, to all of them. In some cases I could even say that the high income person is the leech, but I'm pretty sure that is not what you mean. I will happily answer your question when you define the terms of reference better. If I clearly defined, politicians, hedge fund managers, CDO traders and currency speculators as being the "leeches", and then asked the question "How many leeches should should each low/middle income person carry ?" What would your answer be? T.A. (edited for clarity) |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
What's a slacker/leech? Google-video or youtube "free obama money." You'll find several specific examples there. Why are most of those videos uploaded by a youtube user with the handle "greatguyintx"? |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
Sarcastic Guy comment: And then we'll fix everything by making everyone equal in outcome. (Except those in charge of us.) We'll drain the ocean so all boats sit equally on the sand. Sarcastic response: Yes I know, someone making millions per year, will suddenly be equal with everyone else when their income drops from 10Million/year to 8 Million. I mean if they can only take home 8 Million, how can they live like humans? They'll be forced to be equal with everyone. yep. #resist |
Ex: "Socialist" Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 3433 Credit: 2,616,158 RAC: 2 |
You act as if it's always so easy to earn what you consume. Having spent a portion of my life in the inner city, I can tell you that minimum wage is not enough for a mother to support a child, not even with the deflated prices in bad areas. And that mother also would have little hope of getting anything higher than minimum wage. My solution to this problem is to offer education programs (while providing free childcare), to any people finding themselves stuck in this situation.
Republicans use this term an awful lot. "Entitlement". You know what, if I lose my job, I will file for unemployment because I am "entitled". Does this make me a slacker/leech/socialist/insert improper term here? I doubt a family that is using foodstamps does so because they feel "entitled", more likely is they simply feel "HUNGRY"...
Again as above, (offer or perhaps even require) education classes of some sort. Even starting with some basic "common sense". If the person is not working at all, perhaps the classes should be required to the point that services could be stopped if the person does not comply (show up for class)?
That sounds like a (semi-racist) stereotype... Most in my generation would never fall back on that excuse, except for a laugh.
A person can not be asked to take too much of a paycut, and unemployment allows you the right to refuse a job if it's not close enough to your previous pay. Otherwise, you are just allowing even more companies to lower even more wages, perpetuating the problem and adding more people to your and Gary's "slacker/zombie/leech" category.
ANYONE who works 40hrs or more per week, is NOT a slacker. REGARDLESS of income. How 'bout that for a definition? #resist |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
Guy's definition of slacker includes most CEO's, day traders, fund managers then? This could also include most politicians and many attorneys. Until we get down to the blatant racism. Janice |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
we have answered. You just do not like the answer. No, you have refused to answer because you are incapable of giving an answer. Again. A high income paying 10% even if that is $100,000,000 is not paying their fair share of taxes compared to someone who is paying 33%. The high income person not paying their fair share IS the leech. Everyone gets you don't like the current tax system. But since you can't answer you must think the system we have is the best possible, otherwise you are just being obstructionist. Or are you advocating for a flat tax? Anyone who manipulates policy to pay less is the slime of the earth. Really. So any suggestion to reduce is automatically slime and should not be considered. So say the policy manipulation of the "Earned Income Tax Credit" is for the slime of the earth. So the policy manipulation for the "Tax credit for being blind" is for the slime of the earth. At least we understand where you are coming from. Not the working class(currently being sent to the poor house to further "high income" profits. Said to a person who has advocated higher tax rates for higher incomes. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Gary, you made a valid point on who is a leech when you talked about the incarcerated felon. Society gives them food, shelter and clothing. I see a big disconnect when someone who is not incarcerated and does not have the opportunity to earn such is denied the three basics. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Gary, you made a valid point on who is a leech when you talked about the incarcerated felon. Society gives them food, shelter and clothing. I see a big disconnect when someone who is not incarcerated and does not have the opportunity to earn such is denied the three basics. I do not disagree in principal. Almost everyone has something they can offer to benefit society. Not all of those benefits translate easily into cash income. That is why I am using the definition of leech that I have posted. |
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Fourth, that is a very Dull video. Was he talking about Darwin's worm? |
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Fourth, that is a very Dull video. Was he talking about Darwin's worm? Nope. He is talking about how Your Dear Leader has to go. And at 96 years old, and still with a Mind Like A Steel Trap, I would take His Advice. Vote Your Dear Leader aka Makes U.S. ILL out of office. ê·€í•˜ì˜ ì¹œì• í•˜ëŠ” 지ë„ìž ë³„ëª…ì€ ì‚¬ë¬´ì‹¤ì—ì„œ 미êµì´ 울ë ê±°ë ¤ 투표. ByeByeMisterPeacePrizePieFourthAngel May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Seems to me that elections have been coming down to who is the lesser of two evils to vote for. It used to be you voted for the guy who thought was the best. What the hell happend? [/quote] Old James |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Gary, you made a valid point on who is a leech when you talked about the incarcerated felon. Society gives them food, shelter and clothing. I see a big disconnect when someone who is not incarcerated and does not have the opportunity to earn such is denied the three basics. I'd be wary of this one too as the US incarcerates a disproportionate number of blacks and the poor. The justice is system is flawed and they are locking up far too many people. Reality Internet Personality |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Es99, your correct observation is not germane to my comment. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
I'd be wary of this one too as the US incarcerates a disproportionate number of blacks and the poor. I think that you will find that it is in proportion to those committing the crimes, offenses and felonies. It's not because of any implied prejudice. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
What's a slacker/leech? Google-video or youtube "free obama money." You'll find several specific examples there. Here's a bipartisan definition: the more you can post to S@H forums, the more you are slacking. How's that? Everybody happy? |
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