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Message 1278449 - Posted: 31 Aug 2012, 20:55:02 UTC - in response to Message 1278435.  
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Mind answering the rest as well?
Do you uninstall older drivers before installing the newer ones?
Do you use Driver Sweeper or similar to remove all the remnants of old drivers between uninstalling & reinstalling?

What were the Seti preferences that you changed (it shouldn't make a difference, but tell us anyway)?


Added to that, how large is the hard drive that BOINC's Data directory is installed on?



500 GB/about 450 GB free space....not an issue

I mentioned how I uninstalled the drivers....I uninstalled, deleted leftover folders and used a registry cleaner to remove NVIDIA entries.


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Needed to enter low-power mode on some computers

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0 means no restriction
Enforced by version 6.10.30+

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Do work only between the hours of
No restriction if equal

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yes



Switch between tasks every
Recommended: 60 minutes

60 minutes



On multiprocessors, use at most

--- processors



On multiprocessors, use at most
Enforced by version 6.1+

100% of the processors



Use at most
Can be used to reduce CPU heat

50% of CPU time



Disk and memory usage



Disk: use at most

10 GB



Disk: leave free at least
Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored

0.1 GB



Disk: use at most

50% of total



Tasks checkpoint to disk at most every

60 seconds



Swap space: use at most

75% of total



Memory: when computer is in use, use at most

90% of total



Memory: when computer is not in use, use at most

95% of total



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... and up to an additional

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no



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--- Kbytes/sec



Maximum upload rate:

--- Kbytes/sec



Use network only between the hours of

---



Transfer at most
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no


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100



Use CPU
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yes



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home



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SETI@home classic



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Rainbow



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SETI@home Enhanced: yes
Astropulse v505: no
SETI@home v7: yes
AstroPulse v6: no




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Message 1278522 - Posted: 1 Sep 2012, 0:40:00 UTC

The only problem I see ( and it would NOT be causing GPU tasks to error out) is that you allow the GPU to crunch while the user is active at the keyboard. This setting causes many computers to become unresponsive. Of course YMMV.


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Message 1279234 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 12:46:46 UTC - in response to Message 1278522.  

Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off. When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....
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Message 1279449 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 0:36:08 UTC - in response to Message 1279234.  

Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off. When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....

Now that is interesting information. I am, however, not certain what it means.


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Message 1279507 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 4:18:18 UTC - in response to Message 1279449.  

Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off. When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....

Now that is interesting information. I am, however, not certain what it means.


I guess its info for whoever got their crayon out and wrote the programming for BOINC. They don't seem to be too ontop of trying to fix the problems that everyone keeps talking about on these message boards.
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Message 1279532 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 5:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 1275196.  

OK, so a quick check show you are using a BETA version of the Nvidia driver, so roll back to the current advised production version. Nvidia advise for your card you use version 301.42. If you run Beta version you must expect problems, they are sent out by manufacturers as a cheap way of stress testing.

(I've seen a couple of adverse comments about the particular version you are using, particularly to do with greatly extended run times)
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Message 1279689 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 16:57:24 UTC - in response to Message 1279532.  

OK, so a quick check show you are using a BETA version of the Nvidia driver, so roll back to the current advised production version. Nvidia advise for your card you use version 301.42. If you run Beta version you must expect problems, they are sent out by manufacturers as a cheap way of stress testing.

(I've seen a couple of adverse comments about the particular version you are using, particularly to do with greatly extended run times)



I've tried all versions of Nvidia from 2xx to 3xx. Currently on the beta 306.
It seems to have stabilized somewhat. It running some WUs. It still seems to be encountering errors when it finishes up and changes to new WUs. I don't know if it is helping but I manually snooze the cpu before I shut the computer off. WUs start up again when I turn the computer back on without the error.

I don't know what is going on, they definitely have some glitches in the matrix.

I don't know what is going on, they definitely have some glitches in the matrix.
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Message 1279709 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 17:30:53 UTC

With this having continued through a number of versions I would start to look at the common element - your GPU.
The fact that you are saying it is better soon after a restart makes me think this is a thermal problem rather than anything to do with software. GPU are "famous" for being very good dust collectors, and when the cooling fins and fan get coated in dust they run hot. Not quite "too hot", when they shut down, but hot enough to start to throw errors, visually they work OK, but for intensive processing they are just not right. Next time you power down take the card out and give it a good clean (I use a vacuum cleaner on mine every few months).
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Message 1279725 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 17:51:35 UTC - in response to Message 1279709.  

(I use a vacuum cleaner on mine every few months).

Great way to lose a piece of hardware! Vacuum cleaners, especially the hoses and thus mouth-pieces, are famous for building up large amounts of static electricity when they run (suck dust).

I'd rather use an old toothbrush and if it's really stuck a toothpick to pick the dust off.
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Message 1279834 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 0:04:32 UTC - in response to Message 1279725.  

Dust is not the issue. Brand new card, just installed it about 2 weeks ago. When I mention restarts, I mean turning the computer off and then turning right back on so there is no time for the CPU to cool down.
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Message 1279871 - Posted: 4 Sep 2012, 3:06:55 UTC - in response to Message 1279834.  

Dust is not the issue. Brand new card, just installed it about 2 weeks ago. When I mention restarts, I mean turning the computer off and then turning right back on so there is no time for the CPU to cool down.

That makes it sound like a driver issue.


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Message 1280412 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 21:15:40 UTC

I have same geforce 210 card Running windows 7 with 500GB hard drive with 400GB free space. I have 4 GB DDR3 ram ... this video card geforce 210 does not have a fan on it and it gets VERY hot to the touch when Im running basic stuff on the net . It gets what looks like the picture is separating in lines and sliding a little like if you pushed it back up it would make one picture again. The computer completely freezes on me I cant ALT+TAB+DEL to the task have to force power down by holding the power button and restart it. I too am getting the 0000005 error whatever it is when it does it. Im pretty sure it has something to do with this card or GPU however possibly overheating? I take my card out and I get no errors my computer runs fine. I am running Avg internet security for virus... spybot S&D... and Malwarebytes Anti-Maleware...If not the card overheating its causing an error writing back to memory or something to that effect. Would love to hear anyone elses opinions or ideas on how to fix this issue I too JUST bought my card about a month ago and I think they are putting out some stinkers.
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Message 1280416 - Posted: 5 Sep 2012, 21:22:44 UTC - in response to Message 1280412.  

I have same geforce 210 card Running windows 7 with 500GB hard drive with 400GB free space. I have 4 GB DDR3 ram ... this video card geforce 210 does not have a fan on it and it gets VERY hot to the touch when Im running basic stuff on the net . It gets what looks like the picture is separating in lines and sliding a little like if you pushed it back up it would make one picture again. The computer completely freezes on me I cant ALT+TAB+DEL to the task have to force power down by holding the power button and restart it. I too am getting the 0000005 error whatever it is when it does it. Im pretty sure it has something to do with this card or GPU however possibly overheating? I take my card out and I get no errors my computer runs fine. I am running Avg internet security for virus... spybot S&D... and Malwarebytes Anti-Maleware...If not the card overheating its causing an error writing back to memory or something to that effect. Would love to hear anyone elses opinions or ideas on how to fix this issue I too JUST bought my card about a month ago and I think they are putting out some stinkers.


What does any of this have to do with Seti or BOINC? You have no computers attached to the project.
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Message 1280626 - Posted: 6 Sep 2012, 16:39:29 UTC - in response to Message 1280412.  

I have same geforce 210 card Running windows 7 with 500GB hard drive with 400GB free space. I have 4 GB DDR3 ram ... this video card geforce 210 does not have a fan on it and it gets VERY hot to the touch when Im running basic stuff on the net . It gets what looks like the picture is separating in lines and sliding a little like if you pushed it back up it would make one picture again. The computer completely freezes on me I cant ALT+TAB+DEL to the task have to force power down by holding the power button and restart it. I too am getting the 0000005 error whatever it is when it does it. Im pretty sure it has something to do with this card or GPU however possibly overheating? I take my card out and I get no errors my computer runs fine. I am running Avg internet security for virus... spybot S&D... and Malwarebytes Anti-Maleware...If not the card overheating its causing an error writing back to memory or something to that effect. Would love to hear anyone elses opinions or ideas on how to fix this issue I too JUST bought my card about a month ago and I think they are putting out some stinkers.


The 210 I have has a small fan, it is the 1 gig DDR3 card. It was on sale for only $30 from CompUSA. If you want to keep your current card, I think you can buy an auxillary fan for you tower. Check out Compusa, they always have stuff on sale.
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Message 1281760 - Posted: 9 Sep 2012, 2:21:15 UTC - in response to Message 1279234.  

Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off.
When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....

Maybe something is not fully loaded (after computer restart) when BOINC try to start the apps.
(What happens if you restart BOINC without restarting the computer?)

You may try in cc_config.xml
<cc_config>
   <options>
      <start_delay>33</start_delay>
   </options>
</cc_config>



Did you possibly have set to sleep your HDD after a short period (1 minute)?


 


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Message 1282491 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 3:17:07 UTC - in response to Message 1281760.  

Okay, here is something I notice. First off, if I Uninstall Boinc, remove all folders then reinstall, it works fine until I shut my computer off.
When I restart I start getting the errors.

Next thing I noticed but I'm not sure yet, it seems that when I see the errors start, the WU's usually start out at 13.99%, if I suspend that current WU (the one that is about ready to have an error) then BOINC will skip to the next WU and complete it without any errors....

Maybe something is not fully loaded (after computer restart) when BOINC try to start the apps.
(What happens if you restart BOINC without restarting the computer?)

You may try in cc_config.xml
<cc_config>
   <options>
      <start_delay>33</start_delay>
   </options>
</cc_config>



Did you possibly have set to sleep your HDD after a short period (1 minute)?




Nope, don't have the power setting set to put the HDD to sleep. The only thing I have it set for is the BOINC screensaver.

Maybe I should point in another direction. I have both Norton and Microsoft AntiVirus installed on this machine. I exluded the BOINC directories from the scans but maybe I'm missing something.
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