Another American shooting

I just heard that news on the radio, so sad...I really wonder how a person gets it in his head to do such thing. We had the same thing going on here in Liège a couple of months ago.
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From the description, this appears to be a one on one murder. Ex employee returns to "take revenge" on person who he believe got him laid off.

Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

It seems some of the injured may have been hit by police bullets.
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Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

Truly. Most certainly people wouldn't try using poisons or explosives. Only guns are deadly. A determined person will find a way to succeed at their goal.

Agreed. I've been around guns since I was little. I got my concealed weapons permit about 11 years ago, and renew it every 5 years per our state laws. I take self defense classes my friend does, and go out about every month and target shoot. I also am an avid hunter. Not everyone with a gun is a nut job. I got my permit for the simple fact of the stuff I hear on a daily basis with my job, being a 911/police/fire dispatcher. I hear things that is never released to media, that no one else would know unless its by word of mouth. I got it to protect my family and myself. Thats it. I carry daily, unless I'm at work. Movies, stores, getting gas, grocery shopping, its with me. A saying I've always lived by is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I refuse to be a victim, I refuse to allow my family to become a victim. Like me or hate me, doesn't matter either way. If someone interested in shooting, I will gladly take them out to shoot at targets, go over gun safety, and help them learn. You don't, thats fine, I don't think of you any differently. We all have things we like and dislike.
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A saying I've always lived by is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

Truly. Most certainly people wouldn't try using poisons or explosives. Only guns are deadly. A determined person will find a way to succeed at their goal.

Yes, but guns are a special problem because of their instant reach. You can't kill a dozen people in a dozen seconds with a knife. After the first one, you would have to chase the rest.

Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

Truly. Most certainly people wouldn't try using poisons or explosives. Only guns are deadly. A determined person will find a way to succeed at their goal.

Yes, but guns are a special problem because of their instant reach. You can't kill a dozen people in a dozen seconds with a knife. After the first one, you would have to chase the rest.

No, but you can kill dozens of people with poisons or explosives, which I mentioned directly.

Whether it would have been as deadly if guns were not available is another question.

Truly. Most certainly people wouldn't try using poisons or explosives. Only guns are deadly. A determined person will find a way to succeed at their goal.

Yes, but guns are a special problem because of their instant reach. You can't kill a dozen people in a dozen seconds with a knife. After the first one, you would have to chase the rest.

No, but you can kill dozens of people with poisons or explosives, which I mentioned directly.

But with poisons or explosives, it is possible that your target, in this case it seems one individual, might just escape. There are few better weapons for direct killing than a gun. Even the mass killers recently used guns to kill most of their victims.

Agreed. I've been around guns since I was little. I got my concealed weapons permit about 11 years ago, and renew it every 5 years per our state laws. I take self defense classes my friend does, and go out about every month and target shoot. I also am an avid hunter. Not everyone with a gun is a nut job. I got my permit for the simple fact of the stuff I hear on a daily basis with my job, being a 911/police/fire dispatcher. I hear things that is never released to media, that no one else would know unless its by word of mouth. I got it to protect my family and myself. Thats it. I carry daily, unless I'm at work. Movies, stores, getting gas, grocery shopping, its with me. A saying I've always lived by is I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. I refuse to be a victim, I refuse to allow my family to become a victim. Like me or hate me, doesn't matter either way. If someone interested in shooting, I will gladly take them out to shoot at targets, go over gun safety, and help them learn. You don't, thats fine, I don't think of you any differently. We all have things we like and dislike.

The CBS morning show called Sunday Morning had an interesting perspective on the issue. In Idaho guns are pretty well unrestricted. Ben Stine lives in Sand Point and said that you never hear of shootings in Idaho, last time someone tried to rob a restaurant with a gun there were three patrons who had him covered. In Los Angeles and Washington guns are highly regulated. Shooting in both cities are nightly events.

In Mexico guns are completely illegal. The have more shooting than in all of the US each year.

Are gun control laws effective, I think not. But I don't have a solution. I would love to find one.

The CBS morning show called Sunday Morning had an interesting perspective on the issue. In Idaho guns are pretty well unrestricted. Ben Stine lives in Sand Point and said that you never hear of shootings in Idaho, last time someone tried to rob a restaurant with a gun there were three patrons who had him covered. In Los Angeles and Washington guns are highly regulated. Shooting in both cities are nightly events.

In Mexico guns are completely illegal. The have more shooting than in all of the US each year.

Are gun control laws effective, I think not. But I don't have a solution. I would love to find one.

We invented the gun, it won't go away, there is no way to legislate it out of existence.

Guns will ALWAYS be available unless all gun manufactures worldwide are closed down and all stocks destroyed. Not going to happen

So we have to introduce laws we feel fair, but we will have to live with gun-crime.

Some countries more than others, it is a fact of life and death.

There are no easy answers.
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You have to have a special permission from the government to get a gun here, the law is very strict on that. Unfortunately you can also get a gun the illegal way.
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