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Message 1274355 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 12:13:44 UTC

My macs hard drive is officially dead. Bad thing is the two AP's I had on it are now timed out. Sorry wingmen.

My old P4's hard drive is also slowly dying. I have set NNT and am down to 3 tasks 0ne AP (running) and to MB's. I hope I can get them done.

The Mac is 4 years old and the P4 is 8 years old. Not sure when or if I should see if they can be fixed.


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Message 1274356 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 12:16:20 UTC - in response to Message 1274355.

Oh man! When it rains it pours, I guess :( Sorry about your misfortune, James. Does this open the door for upgrades? :D
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Message 1274362 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 12:24:26 UTC

I will most likely by a new computer. I like the I7's but they are pricey, But the I5's can more than take the place of the old P4 and the mac. The Mac is a intel dual core and the P4 was just one core. So one I5 is one core more. Plus running lunatics would give me a good leg up also.

What ever I decide, I will keep the tower the P4 is in and see what my computer savy son in law can do to upgrade it.
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Message 1274423 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 15:18:05 UTC

Thats sad Jim.


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Message 1274446 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 16:20:59 UTC

Playing Taps :-(>
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Message 1274467 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 17:23:08 UTC

Sorry about your loss James. ;-)
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Message 1274557 - Posted: 23 Aug 2012, 20:39:32 UTC

Sorry to hear it.

You might get more power and crunching capability if you replace those old rigs outright.

You definetely get more for your dollar computing-wise these days especially with the beefy video cards available now.

So rather than sinking cash into an old rig maybe replace?
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Message 1274885 - Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 15:28:42 UTC

After an hour of rebooting just to get the P4 running I aborted the 1 AP and 2 MB work units. It was obvious that they would not finish.

The messaages I saw were cant find hard drive and no boot file found.
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Message 1274895 - Posted: 24 Aug 2012, 15:56:12 UTC

That sounds like the death croak of a hard disk...
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Message 1282461 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 1:25:58 UTC

Well I have decided to rebuild the old P4. Im not going to make it a super cruncher. There will be no GPU card, but it will crunch for 24/7.

What Id like to install is

1. Asus P8Z77-VLK LGA 1155 intell Z77 motherboard.

2. Intel core i5-3470 ivy bridge 3.2 Ghz (3.6 ghz turbo boost) LGA1155 77w quad core.

3.Seagate Barracuda ST31000524as 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0GB/S 3.5" internal hard drive- bare drive.

4. I think it takes DDR3 ram but not sure. I will install 8 Gigs no matter what it takes.

What Im not sure about is the power supply. Any suggestions? And have I overlooked anything?


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Message 1282467 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 1:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1282461.
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Well I have decided to rebuild the old P4. Im not going to make it a super cruncher. There will be no GPU card, but it will crunch for 24/7.

What Id like to install is

1. Asus P8Z77-VLK LGA 1155 intell Z77 motherboard.

2. Intel core i5-3470 ivy bridge 3.2 Ghz (3.6 ghz turbo boost) LGA1155 77w quad core.

3.Seagate Barracuda ST31000524as 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0GB/S 3.5" internal hard drive- bare drive.

4. I think it takes DDR3 ram but not sure. I will install 8 Gigs no matter what it takes.

What Im not sure about is the power supply. Any suggestions? And have I overlooked anything?


I assume you can salvage your DVD/CD unit from the original. That's about it equipment-wise. I'd guess that about a 650W PSU would be sufficient, might even allow for a low end GPU down the road (like a GT430 or similar).

EDIT: I always try to over-estimate PSU's. I hate surprises.
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Message 1282470 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 1:44:01 UTC

I had forgot about the CD and dvd drives. I have a cd burner but just a dvd reader. So I will just upgrade that also.

And maybe in the future I might throw a low end GPU in. But by then that could be a 660 Ti :)

Any brand of power supply?
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Message 1282475 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 2:24:17 UTC
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I'm a big fan of PC Power & Cooling. They have been my #1 choice for well over 10 years now, and have never had a failure with any, and I'm probably on number 15+ now. Can't say enough good things about them. Look for a Silencer Mk II 750w on ebay, they are out there and are fairly affordable (around $100), and should be able to handle anything you eventually throw at it. I like them because they aren't modular. I'm a hard wired kind of guy, more power less resistance. ;-)
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Message 1282498 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 3:41:31 UTC - in response to Message 1282470.
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Any brand of power supply?


Corsair Gold 650W They also come in higher wattages. I have one of these in my twin PSU rig, next to a Corsair Gold 1200W unit. I've never used PCP&C, but I've heard many others speak highly of them.
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Message 1282506 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 4:16:08 UTC - in response to Message 1282470.

I had forgot about the CD and dvd drives. I have a cd burner but just a dvd reader. So I will just upgrade that also.

And maybe in the future I might throw a low end GPU in. But by then that could be a 660 Ti :)

Any brand of power supply?

Not sure about brands, but if you think that someday you will be using a GPU, then do not use any PSU with less than 650/700 *real* Watts... Of course there are a lot of GPUs out there that dont need so much, but in a few months when the actual mid range GPUs become obsolete you will regret not having enough PSU power to deal with one of those offered at low prices...
And also, almost all PSUs have their max efficiency at around half of the nominal max wattage, so using half of your PSU power will mean less electricity wasted as heat...
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Message 1282570 - Posted: 11 Sep 2012, 9:52:15 UTC

couldn't help few a star trek references :

" There dead Jim "

" Dammit i'm a seti cruncher, not a computer engineer!!! "

ok im done
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