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Message 1273704 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 11:57:04 UTC

Hmmmn, how about holding an annual dinner for "commoners" Del-boy? Too afraid to show us your sleazy lifestyle?

Del-boy's dinner parties raises £800,000
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Message 1273713 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 12:18:57 UTC

If this goes ahead, then it's going to open up a pandora's box of problems!

Now Cameron wants to honour all gold medallists Have no problem with this as many do deserve it.

Issue no 1: OK, go ahead, THEN increase the awards for service personnel on active duty!
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Message 1273804 - Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 0:13:08 UTC

It's a start, but will it be allowed to succeed, that is the question!

Gove's quiet revolution

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Message 1273883 - Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 6:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1273713.

If this goes ahead, then it's going to open up a pandora's box of problems!

Now Cameron wants to honour all gold medallists Have no problem with this as many do deserve it.

Issue no 1: OK, go ahead, THEN increase the awards for service personnel on active duty!

Cameron blows with the wind, will do anything if it's means cadging more votes.
Anyway, are gongs really that worth having for they are 10 a penny these days
just like Knighthhoods. The next trick will be for Cameron to award a gong a goal
every time England scores at football, about the only way we will score any.
Possibly too, a Knighthood for every successful penalty taken.


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Message 1273937 - Posted: 22 Aug 2012, 11:57:50 UTC - in response to Message 1273883.

He's not the only one blowing in the wind. Looks like Nancy boy could be blowing harder....

50% of his party wants Nancy boy to step down

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Message 1275330 - Posted: 25 Aug 2012, 11:35:26 UTC

Welcome to "Sunny Britain", the home of terrorists & criminals where anything goes!

Another "hiccup"

"It springs to my mind these people appear disposable, almost like slavery, and no-one seems to care.’

"A UK Border Agency spokesman said: ‘Each claim for settlement is considered on individual circumstances and in line with published policy."

Then someone should ensure that the policy should contain some "common sense", or is that too much to expect?

"Sapper Hiri’s supporters have urged David Cameron to intervene, pointing out the UKBA’s decision is at odds with the Premier’s pledge to uphold the Military Covenant, society’s duty of care to servicemen."

C'mon Del-boy, get off your ass & start taking actions that count!

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Message 1275573 - Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 0:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 1275330.
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Welcome to "Sunny Britain", the home of terrorists & criminals where anything goes!

Another "hiccup"

"It springs to my mind these people appear disposable, almost like slavery, and no-one seems to care.’

"A UK Border Agency spokesman said: ‘Each claim for settlement is considered on individual circumstances and in line with published policy."

Then someone should ensure that the policy should contain some "common sense", or is that too much to expect?

"Sapper Hiri’s supporters have urged David Cameron to intervene, pointing out the UKBA’s decision is at odds with the Premier’s pledge to uphold the Military Covenant, society’s duty of care to servicemen."

C'mon Del-boy, get off your ass & start taking actions that count!

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Shouldn't a certain Prince be charged under section 69 of the Army Act 1955 for his behavior in Las Vegas.
Then it would show that virtually everyone who serves in HM Forces is a criminal, unless like me you have a LS&GC medal, (17.5 years of undetected crime).

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Message 1275688 - Posted: 26 Aug 2012, 9:21:24 UTC

Reshuffle - Nice choices

Best comment on the article....

"Why dont the whole Govt go and give this country a chance to get back on its feet again."

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Message 1277073 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 13:28:00 UTC
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I see Nancy boy is showing his true colours at last....

Cleggie reveals himself as a tax & spend wally

"But Mr Clegg's demands are not just ideologically at odds with the aims of his Coalition partners, they are also economically illiterate.

Surprising coming from someone of this stature....Deputy PM

"He worked as a business consultant and part-time university lecturer before his election as MP for Sheffield Hallam in 2005" Are those business'es still viable?

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Message 1277148 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 16:17:40 UTC - in response to Message 1277073.

I see Nancy boy is showing his true colours at last....

Cleggie reveals himself as a tax & spend wally


Yes, listened to the radio phone-in's this morning regarding this one-off tax
on the rich. All I can say is, "Chris, have a word with the party boffins and
tell them they got a big thumbs down from Joe public over this". I truly shake
my head, "The Lib Dems are fast becoming a yesterdays party".





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Message 1277172 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 16:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 1277148.

Yep, I think he threw his dummy out because he couldn't have one of these.....


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Message 1277186 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 17:05:08 UTC - in response to Message 1277172.

Yep, I think he threw his dummy out because he couldn't have one of these.....



Time to call a General Election....the parties over...it's time to call it a day..

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Message 1277188 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 17:07:19 UTC - in response to Message 1277186.

Damn, there was a party? Oh well, I know at least one good reason why I wasn't invited........
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Message 1277475 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 10:36:55 UTC
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Del boy & Rodney's silliness

I've been castigated for rubbishing these 2 plonkers, so will the castigator attend parliament & complain about the following?

"For that reason, Tim Yeo’s damaging phrase on these pages on Tuesday may stick. For one of the godfathers of the Tory modernising movement to ask if Mr Cameron is “a man or a mouse” is the equivalent of Lord Mandelson admitting that Tony Blair is fallible.

Privately, some other Tory MPs don’t rate their current leader as highly even as a mouse. “I’m afraid people sense he’s not got greatness stamped on him. And now he’s got Boris on his case,” says one. “There is no idea of where we are going,” says another. One young MP is even more bleak. “The guy is finished. Cameron doesn’t know what to do.”

I love it when officialdom backs me up!

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Message 1278733 - Posted: 1 Sep 2012, 8:28:37 UTC
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A bit late in the day & doesn't go far enough.....

Civil Serfants face pay cuts

How about just sacking them instead for their failures!

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Message 1279198 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 10:06:18 UTC

Another decision by bureaucracy that fails he common sense rule.

July 7 survivor faces deportation from Britain

A university lecturer injured in the 7/7 bombings faces being expelled from the UK even though he was born to British parents in a British colony.

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Message 1279207 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 10:41:18 UTC

Ok lets try and tweak out the salient facts here.

He was born to a British Army officer in pre-independence India. Unknown to him, this conferred a lesser form of British nationality known as a “British subject without citizenship”. He was, he says, never told about this status and was issued with a British passport in the normal way.

After a degree at Cambridge, postgraduate study at Sussex and a career in UK academia, Prof Tulloch took a job in Australia and was granted Australian citizenship. Unlike with a full British citizen, and again unknown to him, this automatically cancelled both his British nationality and his right to live in Britain. When he applied to renew his British passport, it was confiscated.

A UK Border Authority spokesman said: “It is the responsibility of an individual to check that they will not lose a previously acquired nationality or citizenship on acquiring an additional one.” However, Home Office sources said that it was still open to Prof Tulloch to apply for leave to remain in the country if he wished.

This seems to me to be yet another case where rules that might have been deemed appropriate over 60 years ago, are not fit for purpose in today's society. Controlling immigration is a complex minefield and too much of our legislation sometimes contradicts its intended benefits.

Before anyone shouts "jobsworths" Civil Servants are paid to interpret the rules as they stand, as best as they can, it isn't their remit to challenge the rules as such. But of course changes are suggested and recommendations for exemptions are made. In this case which has now been highlighted by the media, there is obviously something patently wrong which needs to be remedied in a common sense manner.

As I understand it the Home Office has the power to grant "Special Dispensation" to reside in the UK, and I sincerely hope they do so here.

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Message 1279233 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 12:42:10 UTC - in response to Message 1279207.
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Good post as you've highlighted the problems most Civil Servants have to face on a daily basis. Laws, rules & regulations are in place for a specific reason as without them, it would be total chaos.

The main problem is that the majority of civil servants do act correctly & go out of their way to assist people with the "correct" advice, however, there are times when they find their decisions overturned by higher ups that just does not make sense. When this happens enough, those servants just end up going with the flow, which only makes matters worse.

As for the passport situation, this really does need cleaning up & thoroughly defined. Every member of my family which included my late parents could hold (& do) a British passport, yet I am not, & all because I was born after 1948. Makes one wonder!

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Message 1279240 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 13:12:29 UTC

Not sure yet on how to rate this, so I'll call it a draw.....

Cameron Roars back....

Nice roflmao comment though.....

" ROARS BACK ?"....roars..OMG...this must be lion that has been spotted and waiting for capture in Essex..!"

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Message 1279260 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 13:53:48 UTC

Good post as you've highlighted the problems most Civil Servants have to face on a daily basis.

however, there are times when they find their decisions overturned by higher ups that just does not make sense.

Thank you, appreciated.

The line & Staff hierarchy from between the Wars still permeates throughout the Civil Service, which results in an endemic resistance to change. Those at Head of Section & Division level, and Permanent Secretaries, live in a rareified atmosphere of their own making, and are not conducive to changing the status quo. However the current administration is well aware of that, and are gradually modernising it to be more suitable and adaptable for the 21C.

Regarding your passport status, I'm not au fait with the current rulings, but if you genuinely feel that you have a case for a UK passport, then the best advice I can give you is to attend the next advice session of your local MP. At the very least he/she should be able to obtain upon your behalf, a written statement of your status from the Home Office.

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