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Message 1277110 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 15:27:20 UTC - in response to Message 1276801.  
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The essential difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals could not exist without conservatives to defend their freedom and support them economically.

Conservatives, on the other hand, could exist and live quite well without liberals.


Conservatives, are on a campaign to undo basic rights which have been afforded to everyone for many years.

Also, conservatives will let your freedom DIE by handing your freedom over to the rich, and then reducing regulations (protections) so in they end they can have you working 20hrs a day until you die.

If you let the fat cats run wild, only the fat cats will be looked out for.



Hahhaha....now that the funniest thing I've heard today. Obama is the one who is taking your rights away and you can't even see it. He wants complete control of you and everything you do. Keep taking the handouts and he will definitely keep taking you to hell. But maybe you like socialism, so be it.

OK, if Obama wants to create a socialist state what industries do you think he will nationalize?


How about the banks, GM (still owes the American tax payer $46 billion) and health care for starters.



GM should not have been bailed out. Screw em, they screwed the American worker for 20 years.
But nationalized banks and healthcare, that would be a great day. ;-)

However, that is not happening in this administration (and probably not any anytime soon seeing how conservative modern democrats are), so I think perhaps someone's facts/beliefs are a little skewed.


Ill throw this out there one more time. Obamacare is based on Romneycare (Republican), and Romneycare was very similar to laws enacted in NYS in the 90's by Governor Pataki (Republican). So, please lets not get Obamacare confused with national healthcare when it rather reeks of similar Republican plans.
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Message 1277166 - Posted: 29 Aug 2012, 16:39:04 UTC

I thought the Republicans didn't need any help.....

.....picked the right pack of thieves then I see.....

...... Baroness Tea-leaf in Florida to "assist" in Republican National Convention


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Message 1277374 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 1:56:11 UTC - in response to Message 1277166.  

If she was looking for center-right parties -- she needs to go to the Democratic National Convention. The Republican National Convention is for Right/Far Right.

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Message 1277387 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 2:53:32 UTC - in response to Message 1277166.  

Good deal, we get to have an overt British action attempting to influence our domestic and international policies. LOL, I thought that was figured out somewhere around 1776 and 1812.
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Message 1277390 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 3:11:52 UTC - in response to Message 1277387.  

Good deal, we get to have an overt British action attempting to influence our domestic and international policies. LOL, I thought that was figured out somewhere around 1776 and 1812.

If only. And I wonder who gets to contributed to the SiperPACs?
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Message 1277394 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 3:21:49 UTC - in response to Message 1277387.  

Good deal, we get to have an overt British action attempting to influence our domestic and international policies. LOL, I thought that was figured out somewhere around 1776 and 1812.

Maybe the problem is that the USA has lost it's direction, a piece I found in the Telegraph;

If running a business is now an electoral disadvantage, this isn't the America I thought I knew

And didn't Calvin Coolidge say "After all, the chief business of the American people is business."

And from the other party "It's the economy, stupid" James Carville, campaign strategist for Bill Clinton.
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Message 1277396 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 3:47:34 UTC - in response to Message 1277394.  

Calvin Coolidge at best is controversial, and most consider to be lack luster. The Carville quote is out of context.
The business of government is not to line the pockets of transglobal corporations.
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Message 1277726 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:00:05 UTC - in response to Message 1276806.  

OK, where did you get the information on nationalizing the banks, that's a new one.


So you've never heard of the Federal Reserve? While they are not actually government entities, they dictate to us what we will and will not do. They bought this country during the FDR regime. I'm surprised you didn't know that..
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Message 1277728 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 1277110.  

The essential difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals could not exist without conservatives to defend their freedom and support them economically.

Conservatives, on the other hand, could exist and live quite well without liberals.


Conservatives, are on a campaign to undo basic rights which have been afforded to everyone for many years.

Also, conservatives will let your freedom DIE by handing your freedom over to the rich, and then reducing regulations (protections) so in they end they can have you working 20hrs a day until you die.

If you let the fat cats run wild, only the fat cats will be looked out for.



Hahhaha....now that the funniest thing I've heard today. Obama is the one who is taking your rights away and you can't even see it. He wants complete control of you and everything you do. Keep taking the handouts and he will definitely keep taking you to hell. But maybe you like socialism, so be it.

OK, if Obama wants to create a socialist state what industries do you think he will nationalize?


How about the banks, GM (still owes the American tax payer $46 billion) and health care for starters.



GM should not have been bailed out. Screw em, they screwed the American worker for 20 years.
But nationalized banks and healthcare, that would be a great day. ;-)

However, that is not happening in this administration (and probably not any anytime soon seeing how conservative modern democrats are), so I think perhaps someone's facts/beliefs are a little skewed.


Ill throw this out there one more time. Obamacare is based on Romneycare (Republican), and Romneycare was very similar to laws enacted in NYS in the 90's by Governor Pataki (Republican). So, please lets not get Obamacare confused with national healthcare when it rather reeks of similar Republican plans.


The two are very different. One is enacted in a state, the other is national. You are not allowed to do it nationally.....unless of course you have a crooked judge that passes something that was not voted on.


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Message 1277730 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:04:04 UTC - in response to Message 1277374.  

If she was looking for center-right parties -- she needs to go to the Democratic National Convention. The Republican National Convention is for Right/Far Right.




Coming from a far left/Far lefty.
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Message 1277735 - Posted: 30 Aug 2012, 19:09:27 UTC - in response to Message 1277726.  

OK, where did you get the information on nationalizing the banks, that's a new one.


So you've never heard of the Federal Reserve? While they are not actually government entities, they dictate to us what we will and will not do. They bought this country during the FDR regime. I'm surprised you didn't know that..

Well, if banking regulation is nationalization then what is outright ownership?
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Message 1279335 - Posted: 2 Sep 2012, 18:33:16 UTC - in response to Message 1277730.  

If she was looking for center-right parties -- she needs to go to the Democratic National Convention. The Republican National Convention is for Right/Far Right.




Coming from a far left/Far lefty.

Judged by the standards of the rest of the world, the current Republican outlook is only one step to the left of those who shave their their heads and have swastikas tattooed on their foreheads. The Democrats are at the same level as the "conservative" parties in most other democracies (middle right).

To brand the Democrats as "socialist" shows a complete lack of understanding as to what the term really means.

The most successful governments are those with with a "centre" position. i.e. Business friendly but still with a social conscience.

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Message 1279648 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 14:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 1275975.  

Think harder.....it will come to you.
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Message 1279651 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 14:56:38 UTC - in response to Message 1274924.  

The essential difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals could not exist without conservatives to defend their freedom and support them economically.

Conservatives, on the other hand, could exist and live quite well without liberals.


Conservatives, are on a campaign to undo basic rights which have been afforded to everyone for many years.

Also, conservatives will let your freedom DIE by handing your freedom over to the rich, and then reducing regulations (protections) so in they end they can have you working 20hrs a day until you die.

If you let the fat cats run wild, only the fat cats will be looked out for.



What are you, 12? You sound just like Obama....a divider. Good luck with that!

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Message 1279652 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 14:59:04 UTC - in response to Message 1274953.  

Allen, from your posts it isn't that you are a conservative -- or rather if you think of yourself as a conservative, you've essentially maligned conservatism as much as the TeaPublicans have mangled the Republican party.

There is room for intelligent discussion of differences -- but not from your vantage point.

As of yet I have seen no discussion, only statements.



The time for discussion is over. It's time for the liberals to see how vile Obama is.

AllenIN. OK I get it, you really dislike like Obama. Now if you could enumerate what "vile" acts you anticipate I would be more informed.


Research, research, research.

Something you progressives tend to forget, avoid or don't care about.
Check his upbringing and school records. Very telling.


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Message 1279653 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 15:02:52 UTC - in response to Message 1279335.  
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If she was looking for center-right parties -- she needs to go to the Democratic National Convention. The Republican National Convention is for Right/Far Right.




Coming from a far left/Far lefty.

Judged by the standards of the rest of the world, the current Republican outlook is only one step to the left of those who shave their their heads and have swastikas tattooed on their foreheads. The Democrats are at the same level as the "conservative" parties in most other democracies (middle right).

To brand the Democrats as "socialist" shows a complete lack of understanding as to what the term really means.

The most successful governments are those with with a "centre" position. i.e. Business friendly but still with a social conscience.



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Boy are you lost. BTW, the left is more communist that socialist.
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Message 1279676 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 16:31:02 UTC - in response to Message 1279653.  

Boy are you lost. BTW, the left is more communist that socialist.

Not by the standards of some who post on these boards :-)

Maybe the definitions change according to region but usually Socialism is regarded as "Centre Left" while Communism is "Far Left".

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P.S. On re-reading my post I can see how you might have been confused. maybe I should have said.
Judged by the standards of the rest of the world, the current Republican outlook is only one step away those who shave their their heads and have swastikas tattooed on their foreheads....

With the understanding that Fascism is usually regarded as the "Far Right"
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Message 1279678 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 16:34:19 UTC - in response to Message 1279652.  
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Research, research, research.

Something you progressives tend to forget, avoid or don't care about.
Check his upbringing and school records. Very telling.




Ha, some of us have done our research. You want the guy that has a questionable tax history, made his fortunes out of buying out companies and shutting them down and keeping his money stockpiled in offshore accounts, and has been known to harass people in a disturbing fashion for being different...

Yep, lets put the guy in office that would be there simply to look out for his own interests and his friends'. Perhaps our increased taxes can go directly towards buying him another car elevator, or multi-million dollar home (lets just cut out the middleman). This is a guy I want running the country, yep, an honest man that always paid his share. Is he looking out for you, or just himself?

Research research research.

(And while we argue about politicians that claim 40 Million in income, we have even bigger criminals making 40 Billion per year, that need to be regulated better and taxed higher.)
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Message 1279690 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 17:00:40 UTC - in response to Message 1279652.  

Allen, from your posts it isn't that you are a conservative -- or rather if you think of yourself as a conservative, you've essentially maligned conservatism as much as the TeaPublicans have mangled the Republican party.

There is room for intelligent discussion of differences -- but not from your vantage point.

As of yet I have seen no discussion, only statements.



The time for discussion is over. It's time for the liberals to see how vile Obama is.

AllenIN. OK I get it, you really dislike like Obama. Now if you could enumerate what "vile" acts you anticipate I would be more informed.


Research, research, research.

Something you progressives tend to forget, avoid or don't care about.
Check his upbringing and school records. Very telling.


AllenIN, thank you for your deep and thoughtful response. You enlighten.
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Message 1279802 - Posted: 3 Sep 2012, 22:23:09 UTC - in response to Message 1279690.  

Allen, from your posts it isn't that you are a conservative -- or rather if you think of yourself as a conservative, you've essentially maligned conservatism as much as the TeaPublicans have mangled the Republican party.

There is room for intelligent discussion of differences -- but not from your vantage point.

As of yet I have seen no discussion, only statements.



The time for discussion is over. It's time for the liberals to see how vile Obama is.

AllenIN. OK I get it, you really dislike like Obama. Now if you could enumerate what "vile" acts you anticipate I would be more informed.


Research, research, research.

Something you progressives tend to forget, avoid or don't care about.
Check his upbringing and school records. Very telling.


AllenIN, thank you for your deep and thoughtful response. You enlighten.


Apparently, it is a vile act to be born, brought up by parents (a few different dads?) and get an education.
BTW, AlienIN, try checking out MY school records. Yeah, then, do you research on a little thing called FERPA.
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