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Message 1268467 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 18:03:53 UTC

I couldn't join such a thing, or i'd have to accept Caloric as the agent of heat, the existence of only four elements (Earth, Air, Fire and Water) and that burning was due to the release of Phlogiston.
As a scientist i must accept current theory as the working model, or else i'm merely a scribe.
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Message 1268475 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 18:12:55 UTC

Something tells me you had to google that. :-)
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Message 1268476 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 18:13:27 UTC - in response to Message 1268140.  

And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.
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Message 1268538 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 22:31:16 UTC - in response to Message 1268467.  

As a scientist i must accept current theory as the working model, or else i'm merely a scribe.


I am not a scientist. I just deliver the darn mail, and no one ever said mailmen are all there anyway. ::points to his head:: Being that as it may, Pluto is still the ninth planet in my book :D

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Message 1268542 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 22:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 1268467.  

I couldn't join such a thing, or I'd have to accept Caloric as the agent of heat, the existence of only four elements (Earth, Air, Fire and Water) and that burning was due to the release of Phlogiston.
As a scientist i must accept current theory as the working model, or else I'm merely a scribe.

In most countries, I'd think scribes are obsolete as a function of employment, too many educated people walking about.
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Message 1268552 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 23:51:48 UTC

You never know, it may be upgraded back to planetary status.

The New Horizons space probe launched in 2006 is currently en-rout to Pluto and will arrive in 2015. At that point we may rediscover that it is a planet after all, since this is our first visit to this heavenly body.

So there is still hope, and only time will tell.
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Message 1268564 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 0:37:31 UTC - in response to Message 1268552.  

en-rout to Pluto and will arrive in 2015.

I hope to be alive for that.
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Message 1268565 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 0:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 1268476.  

And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


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Message 1268567 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 0:41:13 UTC

Vesta is about the same size as Pluto.


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Message 1268594 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 3:30:24 UTC - in response to Message 1268565.  
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And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


Right, but what I said was that Charon doesn't orbit around Pluto like a common satellite would (such as Luna orbits Earth). Instead, Charon orbits Sol like Pluto does, but weaves through Pluto's orbital path, creating a binary-type orbit between the two bodies.
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Message 1268596 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 3:39:16 UTC - in response to Message 1268594.  
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And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


Right, but what I said was that Charon doesn't orbit around Pluto like a common satellite would (such as Luna orbits Earth). Instead, Charon orbits Sol like Pluto does, but weaves through Pluto's orbital path, creating a binary-type orbit between the two bodies.

Well until the IAU decides on a binary type of orbit, a moon it is, like it or not.

At least it's not a space station...
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Message 1268600 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 3:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1268596.  

And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


Right, but what I said was that Charon doesn't orbit around Pluto like a common satellite would (such as Luna orbits Earth). Instead, Charon orbits Sol like Pluto does, but weaves through Pluto's orbital path, creating a binary-type orbit between the two bodies.

Well until the IAU decides on a binary type of orbit, a moon it is, like it or not.

At least it's not a space station...

If it is a space station, it is not ours, and that would prove something.


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Message 1268601 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 3:44:42 UTC - in response to Message 1268596.  

And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


Right, but what I said was that Charon doesn't orbit around Pluto like a common satellite would (such as Luna orbits Earth). Instead, Charon orbits Sol like Pluto does, but weaves through Pluto's orbital path, creating a binary-type orbit between the two bodies.

Well until the IAU decides on a binary type of orbit, a moon it is, like it or not.

At least it's not a space station...


Well, it seems Wikipedia agrees with you:

The center of mass (barycenter) of the Pluto–Charon system lies outside either body. Since neither object truly orbits the other, and Charon has 11.6% the mass of Pluto, it has been argued that Charon should be considered to be part of a binary system. However, the International Astronomical Union (IAU) describes Charon simply as a satellite of Pluto.

In a draft proposal for the 2006 redefinition of the term, the IAU proposed that a planet be defined as a body that orbits the sun that is large enough for gravitational forces to render the object (nearly) spherical. Under this proposal, Charon would have been classified as a planet, since the draft explicitly defined a planetary satellite as one in which the barycenter lies within the major body. In the final definition, Pluto was reclassified as a dwarf planet, but the formal definition of a planetary satellite was not decided upon. Charon is not in the list of dwarf planets currently recognized by the IAU.[14] Had the draft proposal been accepted, even Earth's moon would have been classified as a planet in billions of years when the tidal acceleration that is gradually moving the Moon away from the Earth takes the Moon far enough away that the center of mass of the system no longer lies within the Earth.


But if that draft is accepted, be ready for another change!
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Message 1268604 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 3:46:52 UTC - in response to Message 1268600.  
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And today Pluto, Dwarf Planet or not, has not 4 moons, but 5! That's more than all the inner planets combined.

4 Satellites

    4.1 Charon
    4.2 Nix and Hydra
    4.3 S/2011 (134340) 1
    4.4 S/2012 (134340) 1


It is my understanding that Pluto and Charon share a binary orbit as Charon intertwines with Pluto's orbit around the Sun rather than orbiting around Pluto itself. This makes it difficult to classify Charon as a natural satellite (moon) of Pluto.

All planet / moon sets orbit around a common center of mass. In the case of the major planets that have moons, this is within the planet. Orbiting around the center of mass causes the high tide on the side of the Earth opposite the moon. The same is true of the sun and its planets, but the mass difference is such that the sun does not wobble much.


Right, but what I said was that Charon doesn't orbit around Pluto like a common satellite would (such as Luna orbits Earth). Instead, Charon orbits Sol like Pluto does, but weaves through Pluto's orbital path, creating a binary-type orbit between the two bodies.

Well until the IAU decides on a binary type of orbit, a moon it is, like it or not.

At least it's not a space station...

If it is a space station, it is not ours, and that would prove something.

Well If it's not ours we should capture it and see how they get across space, among other things...
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Message 1268675 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 8:53:51 UTC

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Message 1268690 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 9:55:44 UTC


Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1268703 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 10:25:34 UTC - in response to Message 1268564.  

en-rout to Pluto and will arrive in 2015.

I hope to be alive for that.


You won't be if we must believe the Mayans.
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Message 1268844 - Posted: 8 Aug 2012, 1:01:41 UTC
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bwahahaha! Thanks guys, I appreciate your opinions and the sarcasms :D
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Message 1268855 - Posted: 8 Aug 2012, 1:38:37 UTC

You won't be if we must believe the Mayans.

The last time this date showed up only the Mayans seemed to get the worst of it, and I am a Canadian not a Mayan.
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