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Message 1286531 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 5:25:15 UTC - in response to Message 1286402.

SETI@Home needs an unscience board for threads such as this, it has no place here.


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Message 1286532 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012, 5:26:30 UTC - in response to Message 1286402.

SETI@Home needs an unscience board for threads such as this, it has no place here.

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Message 1287207 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 19:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 1286402.
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SETI@Home needs an unscience board for threads such as this, it has no place here.

I don't agree!

Guys just remember where you are! This SETI project Searches for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. In plain English, thats Aliens! The science that is carried out by the people who run this project is very left wing. Its NOT mainstream science. So don't be putting yourselves up on a pedestal thinking what goes on here is normal, because its not! Its hunting for aliens, no matter what way you look at it!

So until somebody, anybody at all, finds life outside of planet earth, every search method is just as valid as the next.

Searching for UFO's is very important science. I'm never going to do this myself. But i'm very glad that other people do search for UFO's. If nobody tried to take pictures or video of UFO's then we would simply never know. So be glad that somebody is doing it. Even if you yourself don't believe in them!

It doesn't matter how we find life outside Earth, so long as we find it. And i don't care if its NASA, SETI, UFO hunters, or the Catholic church that is the first to make the first contact. Just as long as there are lots of people trying DIFFERENT search methods. Don't knock someone else's search method because they might be the ones to succeed! UFO hunting is valid science, even if you don't like it!

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Message 1287230 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012, 21:33:37 UTC - in response to Message 1287207.

Yes, Johnney, we're looking for intelligent life in the Universe other than our own.

But just because we are looking for aliens, doesn't mean every unexplained light in the sky is part of that science.

I don't even think this project wants to associate themselves with the alien conspiracy theorists which are bound to be attracted to this project because of its very nature.

Alien conspiracies are not SETI science.

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Message 1287421 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 16:08:00 UTC - in response to Message 1287207.
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The science that is carried out by the people who run this project is very left wing. Its NOT mainstream science. So don't be putting yourselves up on a pedestal thinking what goes on here is normal, because its not! Its hunting for aliens, no matter what way you look at it!


Radio receivers and signal analysis are left-wing now? Someone better tell Mark when he comes back. Oh, and the military. :^p Completely ridiculous statement.

As for your second ridiculous statement: Why would you think that this project is in any way not "mainstream science" when it's being
- run by a major, public, accredited university that has produced 22 Nobel laureates (Gee, ya think they might know what science is and isn't?)
- by scientists
- using scientific methodology and open platforms
- funded by scientific institutions
- and all findings are to be published and subject to peer review?

What's abnormal about digital analysis on radio telescope data looking for narrowband signals? Heck, they teach it in electrical engineering.

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Message 1287474 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 19:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 1287421.

The science that is carried out by the people who run this project is very left wing. Its NOT mainstream science. So don't be putting yourselves up on a pedestal thinking what goes on here is normal, because its not! Its hunting for aliens, no matter what way you look at it!


Radio receivers and signal analysis are left-wing now? Someone better tell Mark when he comes back. Oh, and the military. :^p Completely ridiculous statement.

As for your second ridiculous statement: Why would you think that this project is in any way not "mainstream science" when it's being
- run by a major, public, accredited university that has produced 22 Nobel laureates (Gee, ya think they might know what science is and isn't?)
- by scientists
- using scientific methodology and open platforms
- funded by scientific institutions
- and all findings are to be published and subject to peer review?

What's abnormal about digital analysis on radio telescope data looking for narrowband signals? Heck, they teach it in electrical engineering.

Sigh.

Mr. Kevvy,
Why??? I will tell you why! While we, the users of this forum, might all feel very comfortable sitting around chatting about alien hunting, its still not mainstream science. We, the users of this forum, and the scientists who run this project, all understand that its legitimate science.

But the vast majority of the general public don't understand and have never given any thought to how or why a scientist might look for aliens.

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Message 1287482 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 20:07:27 UTC

Yes, us babbling about the project in the forum isn't science/scientific. Certainly I doubt anyone will have any beef with that. Unfortunately, that isn't what you wrote:

The direct quote of your own words again:

The science that is carried out by the people who run this project is very left wing. Its NOT mainstream science.
(emphasis mine.)

And how the heck is radio astronomy "very left wing"? Talk about politicizing...
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Message 1287487 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 20:16:38 UTC - in response to Message 1287482.

Yes, us babbling about the project in the forum isn't science/scientific. Certainly I doubt anyone will have any beef with that. Unfortunately, that isn't what you wrote:

The direct quote of your own words again:

The science that is carried out by the people who run this project is very left wing. Its NOT mainstream science.
(emphasis mine.)

And how the heck is radio astronomy "very left wing"? Talk about politicizing...

Radio astronomy is left wing when its used to search for aliens!

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Message 1287489 - Posted: 24 Sep 2012, 20:22:20 UTC - in response to Message 1287487.

Radio astronomy is left wing when its used to search for aliens!


Er... have another Guinness. :^p
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Message 1287568 - Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 1:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 1287474.

Why??? I will tell you why! While we, the users of this forum, might all feel very comfortable sitting around chatting about alien hunting, its still not mainstream science. We, the users of this forum, and the scientists who run this project, all understand that its legitimate science.


It is legitimate science to be looking for alien signals using agreed upon methods. It is not legitimate science to be discussing lights in the sky or Area 51.

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Message 1287572 - Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 2:26:06 UTC - in response to Message 1287568.

Why??? I will tell you why! While we, the users of this forum, might all feel very comfortable sitting around chatting about alien hunting, its still not mainstream science. We, the users of this forum, and the scientists who run this project, all understand that its legitimate science.


It is legitimate science to be looking for alien signals using agreed upon methods. It is not legitimate science to be discussing lights in the sky or Area 51.

Why not?

If there are lights in the sky, we better find out what they are!
If something happened at area 51, its best the US government come clean and tell us!

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Message 1287824 - Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 23:43:22 UTC - in response to Message 1287572.

Why??? I will tell you why! While we, the users of this forum, might all feel very comfortable sitting around chatting about alien hunting, its still not mainstream science. We, the users of this forum, and the scientists who run this project, all understand that its legitimate science.


It is legitimate science to be looking for alien signals using agreed upon methods. It is not legitimate science to be discussing lights in the sky or Area 51.

Why not?

If there are lights in the sky, we better find out what they are!
If something happened at area 51, its best the US government come clean and tell us!


Because both have been thoroughly debunked time and time again. It stops being science and starts becoming conspiracy theory when people refuse to acknowledge the data but instead prefer to believe the stories.

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Message 1290975 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 23:22:02 UTC - in response to Message 1286395.

Stephen Greer hasnt found anything but a drowned monkey carcass. He has officially been pulling a no show on the lecture circut. If Stanton Friedman says he doesnt trust his results hes probally right.

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Message 1290978 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 23:32:36 UTC - in response to Message 1286402.

This thread has been fun and alot of skeptical people would like to know is ET visiting or not.Myself Im in a wait and see mode, I want to belive that yes there is other beings capible of travel to other stars. Someday we as species will have to build an ARK to save us when in 3 billion years when we collide headon into the Andromada Galaxy. In 5 billion years our sun will doom the earth by its death throes of throwing off its surface and expands all the way to mars orbit.

Stephan Greer is gonna have to sell snake oil to recover from his fiasco.

MUFON hasnt come up with the WOW factor either, guess its back to prodessing work units.....

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Message 1290980 - Posted: 3 Oct 2012, 23:41:11 UTC - in response to Message 1290978.

I'm pretty certain that no skeptical people are wondering if we're being visited by aliens. Skeptical people tend to look at the data, they take each piece of evidence individually and carefully examine it for accuracy, then come to a conclusion such as, "I see no reason to believe aliens have been visiting our planet at any point in our history".

The only thing skeptical people are wondering about is where the evidence to support the idea is.

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Message 1291020 - Posted: 4 Oct 2012, 1:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 1290975.

Stephen Greer hasnt found anything but a drowned monkey carcass. He has officially been pulling a no show on the lecture circut. If Stanton Friedman says he doesnt trust his results hes probally right.

Larry,
Thanks for coming back and clearing that up for us. Larry you did keep us all in suspense for a while anyway. And we had a good laugh.

Thanks for the update Larry,
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Message 1292526 - Posted: 7 Oct 2012, 19:42:17 UTC - in response to Message 1291020.

Myself I listened to a few videos on Steven Greer but didnt put much faith in his ideas. He got caught up with a carcass he couldnt explain. He got bilked by the Brazian guy that sold it to him. He had big money backers. Think that is along the lines of "a fool and his money are soon separated"..
I have to admit I was in suspense does he really have something? Naw just another crack pot. Thats just what his backers are saying.

As per MUFONs findings they have been mum also. Not a word since their big annoucement. I figure if these samples they have, if they can be duplicated on earth I wouldnt put any faith in them. I would look at something not found in the peroidiac tables then I would look closer. Magnesium alloys found near a artillery range. Could be fallout from almagordo tests think 16 were done and a few above ground. no one I asked could tell me if the samples were radioactive a whole lot of stuff get vaporized and condenses as fallout, that would make some weird alloys.

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Message 1298217 - Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 14:55:05 UTC
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I've been pretty skeptical of Dr. Greer's latest claim. Saw this current article, in which he cites expert opinions about the nature of the body, and treats the matter as still viable. I share it for whatever it may be worth. http://www.ufodigest.com/article/dr-greer-researches-possible-et-body

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Message 1298285 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 0:45:07 UTC - in response to Message 1298217.
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I've been pretty skeptical of Dr. Greer's latest claim. Saw this current article, in which he cites expert opinions about the nature of the body, and treats the matter as still viable. I share it for whatever it may be worth. http://www.ufodigest.com/article/dr-greer-researches-possible-et-body

Michael,
Thanks for the link, that article has loads of information about this Stephen Greer thing.

So Stephen Greer is making a film called "Sirius", and the film company have a website with tonnes of information about whats hppeneing. The name of the film company is "NeverEnding Light". This is the website about the film;
http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/

The website has lots of info and video clips!

They have a 4 minute Youtube video called;
"The Sirius Documentary";
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsOe_r2r2P0

They have 4 more short video clips on this page;
http://www.sirius.neverendinglight.com/?page_id=245

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Message 1301836 - Posted: 3 Nov 2012, 22:08:55 UTC

Why don't any of these supposed alien bodies found ever have any form of
identity on them. Don't seem to have any clothing either, must fly their
spaceships in the nude then.

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