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Message 1317657 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 16:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1317653.

If there wasn't, there probably will be now. But the really scary thought is how many others are there in the USA that think like him? Are all ex servicemen signed up to a secret militia force?

No. Fortunately ones like them are usually quickly drummed out. But a few conspiracy theory nutters slip through the cracks.

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Message 1317670 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 1317384.

Quite honestly that would result in an overwhelming gov't response. Check out your local Therapists office and you'll understand that you can't possibly watch everyone.

BTW I actually am fairly antisocial and am very uncomfortable in crowds or being around people even when I know the people. Would I be restricted?


I guess by your definition I am antisocial too as I too hate being in crowds. I also understand that not everyone can be watched and even then watched by whom? This is why I wonder that the use of profiling is so politically incorrect to the point of being banned.

But did this young man even fit in a profile that would have predicted his ultimate behavior?

Finally I don't think that removing one means of inflicting death would deter the most determined of mass murderers from his/her deed.

It is probably impossible to regulate/control society to the point where such events cease to occur which means we have to do a better job with the techniques available to limit their frequency.

OK you want more info. I don't like people. period. I can't stand them. People like the face I put on at work. Thats fine I can do that for a few hours a day. Outside work, I just dont want to be around people and given the chance avoid others completely. I find other quite simply shells posing as human beings. Around here its perfectly clear to me who those people are. SO rigid in thought that actually thinking about something in a different way never occurs to them. I don't like dealing with information reguritation. Have thoughts of your own. I know this comes as a surprise but spouting talking points is just blah blah blah to me. I don't have time for people like that nor do I think that person is intelligent enough to even discuss the talking point because they just blah blah blah and never bother to think.


To end the Diatribe. I'd like to say if you saw me you'd think "what a normal guy" THe reality is quite different.
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Message 1317674 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:35:35 UTC
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Is that all you can do is level false charges. Is that all you punks have? Is this all that you are about, lies and contempt for the Rule of Law in this Country.

You have NO UNDERSTANDING of the Posse Comitatus act. You have NO UNDERSTANDING of self rule and government. You talk crap and nothing more. You know NOTHING of virtue, or Faith yet you talk crap about it too! You have NOTHING but the wind in your hands. There isn't a ONE of you here that has ANY understanding of self reliance, your all about what you can take from another by the FORCE of the government gun.

Sheeple is the only word that aptly defines you. If you understood virtue and elected someone who understood it you would find yourself in charge of YOURSELF. You ignored 1984, because you live it, you suck it down like a wine at the table.

I am a free man. I live it and express it. I am free because I am armed, not because I wish to use them but because I am.

Your false charges are funny at best, but a reflection of the sheeple you are.

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Message 1317675 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:35:43 UTC - in response to Message 1317569.

And yes I believe our ranter and raver here should in no way shape or form EVER have his hands on so much as a water pistol.

Our ranter & raver gets away with what he does because this is an anonymous forum, where ones personal details are not on public display. All he gets here is a verbal bloody nose. If he tried walking the streets saying his opinions, he'd more than likely get a real physical one.

If you want the plain facts Known facts

Alison Pearson in the Telegraph is fair comment. Pearson

Lanza's brother told law enforcement that Adam was believed to suffer from a personality disorder and was "somewhat autistic". A law enforcement official and friends of Nancy Lanza reported that Adam had been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome.

If the above is true, then this tragedy wasn't entirely because of the USA gun laws, but of course they did have a direct bearing on the matter. A number of things stand out clearly to me.
    A way needs to be found to stop mentally unstable people getting hold of guns.

    There should be no need for members of the public to privately own Military assault weapons and the like, and that should be banned.

    The USA gun culture needs to change. The American Civil war was over 150 years ago, and the OK Corral was over 130 years ago. This is now the 21C, get over it America, and stop being so gun happy as an accepted way of life.


This tragedy will happen again, that is the saddest thing about it all. But our views are being coloured here by certain ex service personnel that frequent these boards, who because of their oaths or training, seem to have a different mindset to the rest of us. The most important thing here is those INNOCENT DEAD KIDS. If you sincerely feel that that your gun laws and your 2nd Amendment, mean more to you than childrens lives, then there isn't much more to say is there?

This Seti Politics thread is clearly not representative of the general public feeling throughout the rest of the world, and that needs to be recognised.


Chris, Most Ameraicans cant own assault weapons. There are some states that allow a citizen to legally own a full atuo firearm, But only after the proper paper work and a thourogh back ground check with the necessary federal tax. Its normally the rich collector that owns them. Ive seen the term assault weapon bandied about here with out being used correctly. Also the term 30 round clip.

A miltary assault rife is a select fire weapon. That means it fires in semi automatic or fully automatic mode. Semi means you have to pull the trigger evry time to fire the weapon. Automatic means hold the trigger and you fire the whole magazine.

A clip is a device to hold 5 or 10 rounds of ammunition to load into the weapons magazine. Such as the Mauser 98, British SMLE , 1903 Springfield and the Spingfield M1A1 And probally a lot more I dont know about.
A magazine is what holds the rounds of modern military arms. The 30 round magazine of the AK 47 you all hold to such disgust is probally the most recognized.

You all have the right to your opinions but get your facts in order.


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Message 1317684 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:40:24 UTC
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I'd rather they remain ignorant of weapons. Such people shouldn't own them. Such people should shut the hell up about them too!

The AR has a 30 round clip also, and some that double drum clips too that hold much more.

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Message 1317690 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:47:39 UTC - in response to Message 1317684.

I'd rather they remain ignorant of weapons. Such people shouldn't own them. Such people should shut the hell up about them too!


So should those who brag of the number & type of weapons they hold.

One will find that those who have been highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary are fully aware of their deadly force & do not misuse or indeed even own them as a civilian.

Sorry I.D., if we ever met, I'd immediately cross the road to avoid you as not only are you a danger to yourself but to society as well!
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Message 1317691 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:48:29 UTC - in response to Message 1317635.

Either ID needs to be locked up by the CIA as a dangerous subversive, or the world ought to be getting rather worried.


I worry more about The Lemmings posting than Free Thinkers I.D. and Guy.

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If Keyboards were Guns, there would be Plenty 'O Blood being spewed.

Be like the show Spartacus. Without the Lovely Lucy of course.

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Message 1317696 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 1317690.
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I'd rather they remain ignorant of weapons. Such people shouldn't own them. Such people should shut the hell up about them too!


So should those who brag of the number & type of weapons they hold.

One will find that those who have been highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary are fully aware of their deadly force & do not misuse or indeed even own them as a civilian.

Sorry I.D., if we ever met, I'd immediately cross the road to avoid you as not only are you a danger to yourself but to society as well!


You will never meet me. You are a slave, not a freemen.

I'm more then aware and highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary. Show me where I have misused anyone of them? You cannot, because I have not.

I have told you why I own them. You are a Brit, we whooped you butts because you wished to disarm us and make us slaves to the Empire. We are not, we are freemen, you are slave.

The only society you have is what Big Brother GIVES you by force of arms it TAKES from the tax payer and hands back out for reason of a vote to REMAIN in power. Not because you are free do you vote, you vote to remain in what you get from the government. You are slave. Just like the man who beats his wife, and the wife makes excuse for the beating.

You know NOTHING of vitrue, or Faith.

You are slave.

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Message 1317698 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 17:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 1317696.
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I'd rather they remain ignorant of weapons. Such people shouldn't own them. Such people should shut the hell up about them too!


So should those who brag of the number & type of weapons they hold.

One will find that those who have been highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary are fully aware of their deadly force & do not misuse or indeed even own them as a civilian.

Sorry I.D., if we ever met, I'd immediately cross the road to avoid you as not only are you a danger to yourself but to society as well!


You will never meet me. You are a slave, not a freemen.

I'm more then aware and highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary. Show me where I have misused anyone of them? You cannot, because I have not.

I have told you why I own them. You are a Brit, we whooped you butts because you wished to disarm us and make us slaves to the Empire. We are not, we are freemen, you are slave.

The only society you have is what Big Brother GIVES you by force of arms it TAKES from the tax payer and hands back out for reason of a vote to REMAIN in power. Not because you are free do you vote, you vote to remain in what you get from the government. You are slave. Just like the man who beats his wife, and the wife makes excuse for the beating.

You are slave.

You are a poster child as to why there needs to be gun regulation.

EDIT: Oh, and as to me not knowing anything about Christianity. I went to a church school until I was 11 where we had bible readings everyday. I taught in church schools for a lot of my teaching career.

Just because I don't believe there is a god, doesn't mean I don't know an awful lot about the bible. Probably more than you seeing as you claim that god isn't allowed in schools.
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Message 1317700 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:00:59 UTC - in response to Message 1317698.

I'd rather they remain ignorant of weapons. Such people shouldn't own them. Such people should shut the hell up about them too!


So should those who brag of the number & type of weapons they hold.

One will find that those who have been highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary are fully aware of their deadly force & do not misuse or indeed even own them as a civilian.

Sorry I.D., if we ever met, I'd immediately cross the road to avoid you as not only are you a danger to yourself but to society as well!


You will never meet me. You are a slave, not a freemen.

I'm more then aware and highly trained in the use of high powered weaponary. Show me where I have misused anyone of them? You cannot, because I have not.

I have told you why I own them. You are a Brit, we whooped you butts because you wished to disarm us and make us slaves to the Empire. We are not, we are freemen, you are slave.

The only society you have is what Big Brother GIVES you by force of arms it TAKES from the tax payer and hands back out for reason of a vote to REMAIN in power. Not because you are free do you vote, you vote to remain in what you get from the government. You are slave. Just like the man who beats his wife, and the wife makes excuse for the beating.

You are slave.

You are a poster child as to why there needs to be gun regulation.



Riiiight says the man who says he understand the Christian! LOL! You too are slave! Neither of you have the RIGHT to tell an American what should be done WITHIN my Country! You are slave, not a freeman.

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Message 1317701 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:02:10 UTC

EDIT: Oh, and as to me not knowing anything about Christianity. I went to a church school until I was 11 where we had bible readings everyday. I taught in church schools for a lot of my teaching career.

Just because I don't believe there is a god, doesn't mean I don't know an awful lot about the bible. Probably more than you seeing as you claim that god isn't allowed in schools.


Ethics over morals of God, we have been here already! You are slave!

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Message 1317702 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 1317698.

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Message 1317703 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:05:06 UTC

[url]I am a free man. I live it and express it. I am free because I am armed, not because I wish to use them but because I am. [/url]

You are not a free man because you carry a gun - guns don't make you free, they enslave you.
You are a man enslaved to the duty of care that carrying that gun brings along.
You have a massive responsibility resting on your shoulders. A responsibility that you appear to treat with great disdain. You boast about having what has been described, by your fellow countrymen, as a arsenal.
A slave to the fear that you have developed of a situation that is almost impossible to overcome, because it is a fear of meeting yourself, and seeing yourself for who you really are - a slave to your own thoughts.

I don't envy you,
I don't loathe you,
I pity you - a slave to your own ego and ignorance, not a free man at all.
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Message 1317707 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 18:10:10 UTC

I am locking this thread as it seems to be turning into a flame fest and insult party. I will leave it up to the other mods if they want to hide it.

So much for debate.
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