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Message 1317451 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 3:32:56 UTC - in response to Message 1317439.  

Some may think the idea of personal self defense against a killer government is an extreme idea.

Any individual who works to render its citizens defensless is personally to blame.

The founders fully expected its citizens to rise up against the government if it ever got out of control.

Any American who has an interest in the future of a free nation, of a safe nation, prosperous nation, should have an interest in how to preserve it -- and the key is to never give anyone more power than the people.

The individual ultimately has the duty and the right to self defense, not the government.

The pain of suffering the plight of an evil dictatorship, the genocide, the mass murder is quickly forgotten because it is so painful. It's human nature to forget painful memories--the more painful, the more quickly it's forgotten. It's human nature to remember the good.

Failing to understand how dictators come to power is not only your problem, you make it my problem also.

One more thing.

If you want to speak to criminals, you have to talk to criminals in a language they understand.

So let me get this straight. ID wants his guns so he can machine gun deer.
You want yours because you think it will protect you against your government.

Would that be the same government that is the number one military power in the world? Good luck with that. I'm sure that will be great against all those drones, AC130 gun ships, AH6 Apache Helicopters, tow missiles, F-22 fighter jets...

You should just stick to machine gunning deer. Its more realistic.


You have NO understanding of weapons. A semi-auto weapon is NOT a Machine gun! If you have no understanding ask. If you don't ask be quite.

I have already told you this and yet you still MAKE the mistake!
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Message 1317452 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 3:34:05 UTC - in response to Message 1317413.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?
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Message 1317453 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 3:34:50 UTC

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Message 1317454 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 3:35:56 UTC

I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;


A time or two myself...
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Message 1317456 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:01:44 UTC - in response to Message 1317447.  

http://www.dhs.gov/blog/2012/09/14/welcome-fema-corps-inaugural-class

THIS is something we need to keep a close eye on. Sure, they're starting off with some pretty harmless goals and it actually sounds like a pretty good deal for many 18-24 year olds. There's actually some goals listed that sound pretty good for all concerned.

"FEMA Corps sets the foundation for a new generation of emergency managers; it promotes civic engagement and offers an educational and financial opportunity for young people; and is designed to strengthen the nation’s disaster response by supplementing FEMA’s existing Reservist workforce."

Hitler's Nazi Youth started out harmlessly by teaching useful skills such as map reading and working with commuincations gear through hiking trips and other youth activities which supported the party. Soon it was made more militaristic. Members marched in military formations. At first there was no weapons training, but eventually weapons training was added to the program.

What do you think might happen when FEMA responds to an emergency situation full of rednecks who disagree so much with the president, that they begin shooting at this community organization sent in to help restore order?

I'm sorry. Is this an argument for or against gun control?
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Message 1317458 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:02:57 UTC - in response to Message 1317452.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.
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Message 1317460 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:16:40 UTC

The last time I took it was 13 years ago when I joined the Constitution Party of Illinois. I placed my hand on the Bible and repeated it and so help me God I will uphold it till my death.

I truly own nothing but my word. I came into this world naked and screaming and I'll go out about the same way. The whole time I have been here, in the end, my word is all I own and I'll never break it. THAT is the mark of a man, and if NOTHING else I am a man. My hand shake is better then a contract, if you get it you have MY WORD I will do as I have said I would.

Every President since the date of 1913 has taken his oath with his hand on the Bible and then broke his word and committed Treason to GOD and Country. NOT ONE of them has kept his word to the people, save, perhaps, Calvin Coolidge. Just about every man jack elected to the House and Senate has done the same since the very date of 1913, but a handful. All have committed treason, save the very few. At some point in the very near future this house of cards will come down by their own hands. Trials will be held, and they will go to jail or their death because of it.

But this Country will NEVER fall to another Country. It's citizens are armed and many like myself are ready, willing, and will die to protect it. Even for the ones who have NO CLUE as to the how, where, or why. Why are we willing to die---because we are Christian, we made an oath to God.

It's just that simple.
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Message 1317461 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:17:18 UTC - in response to Message 1317458.  
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Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.
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Message 1317463 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:42:23 UTC - in response to Message 1317461.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.
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Message 1317466 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 4:53:49 UTC
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And while I have forgotten some that deserve, there a certain definite omissions. ;) To those of you omitted, I'm sorry you missed the November 6 Rapture.
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Message 1317468 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:02:23 UTC - in response to Message 1317463.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.


Actions, not words.
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Message 1317471 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:07:20 UTC - in response to Message 1317468.  

Those children were the future of your country - where were you to protect them?


I protect MY OWN. Im not a burden to the state. As it should be.

How very Christian of you.

I must have missed that part in the bible where Jesus said "screw your neighbours and watch out for number one." what gospel was it in?


You Christian?

I know the bible pretty well and am very familiar with the teachings of Jesus.

You didn't answer the question. Yet you did answer. Not committing is an answer to me.

My faith or lack of it is no secret here. :D Your question was, however, irrelevant. So I chose not to answer it.

Just because you call yourself a Christian, doesn't mean you are one.


Actions, not words.


Fixed your link.
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Message 1317476 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 5:51:11 UTC

The BIG MAYAN MACHINE GUN is set To BLAST AWAY ALL HUMAN LIFE on Earth, tommorow.

If we are still living on Saturday, then:

In 2016 there will be More Guns registered To Civilians than now, The DAY BEFORE THE END OF THE EARTH. 12-21-2012

So, get happy to have More Guns, In More Hands at The End Of Hustlin' Husseins Dictatorship.

he a he a he.

And Oh Yeah, Until The American White Male is Disposed Of, you will always have Another American Massacre.

So, Again, Hope For The BIG MAYAN MACHINE GUN to at least wipe out The White American Male.

Who Ya?

DEMON...Mayan Lovin' MO FO and HOT

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1317484 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 6:28:00 UTC - in response to Message 1317463.  
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Is it just me or was ES *NOT* the first one to not answer a question?

What gospel WAS that in? I missed that too.

And yes I read the damned book. Obviously from a different angle from others.
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Message 1317490 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 6:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 1317468.  

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Actions, not words.

"Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."
What? Even my AK-47?

"Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

'For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.' Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?' And the King will answer them, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'"

"And the crowds asked him, "What then shall we do?" And he answered them, "Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise." "

"For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment."

I could go on all day. That commie Jesus was pretty clear about how you are supposed to treat others.
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Message 1317498 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 7:01:51 UTC

Es, you are quicker on the keyboard draw than me - I was collating the same Biblical quotes as you.
ID, as you your choice of song title is a very interesting one, have you stacked your actions against the standards list by Es, which are after all quotes from the Bible, which is a book you say you hold very dear to you heart?
(I don't expect you to place a public answer to this question,a s I suspect it will take you a long time to understand what is being said in the Bible about those who espouse violence, greed, selfishness).
But we are getting off subject.
I've a strong feeling that I am not alone among those who have been taught to handle, use and manage firearms who would rather not see them in the hands of the general public "for their own defence" (against other humans). I've no problems with people having hunting rifles for hunting or clearing vermin, but the concept of having an assault rifle, or any number hand guns (greater than zero that is) "for my own defence" is one that I find hard to grasp.
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Message 1317519 - Posted: 20 Dec 2012, 8:38:03 UTC
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Apparently the NY Times health section has this disorder listed, Paranoid Personality Disorder

Paranoid personality disorder is a psychiatric condition in which a person has a long-term distrust and suspicion of others, but does not have a full-blown psychotic disorder such as schizophrenia.


Also, as I.D. seems to like the Federalists so much maybe he would be happy to re-enact "The Sedition Act of 1798" brought in by President John Adams.

simple put: Made it a crime to publish “false, scandalous, and malicious writing” against the government or certain officials.

I won't, I.D. style, quote the entire act as legalise is such a PITA.

A crime he is probably guilty of because he keeps complaining certain Federal laws are unconstitutional.

Most of this I have pinched from POLICE STATE USA: The Paranoid Style of American Governance

Which I found when looking up a famous essay published in Harpers Magazine in 1964, just after the Kennedy assinations. The Paranoid Style in American Politics, By Richard Hofstadter a document we had to read when studying "current affairs" back then.
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