Has anybody else noticed the change to the message boards?

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Wembley Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Sep 09 Posts: 415 Credit: 879,818 RAC: 0	Message 1259073 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:32:44 UTC
	The forum software doesn't seem to want to collapse old messages anymore. It also doesn't go to the first new post. You have to keep going to the next page until you see something posted today. Very annoying. ____________ Donate with your searches and online buys: http://www.goodsearch.com/toolbar/university-of-california-setihome
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1069 Credit: 2,014,689 RAC: 2,639	Message 1259075 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 1259073.
	It wasn't broken so they fixed it. ____________
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2689 Credit: 7,749,622 RAC: 25,003	Message 1259076 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:35:24 UTC - in response to Message 1259073. Last modified: 11 Jul 2012, 19:36:22 UTC
	The forum software doesn't seem to want to collapse old messages anymore. It also doesn't go to the first new post. You have to keep going to the next page until you see something posted today. Very annoying. Yes, it's being discussed in the Café thread "Help.... I messed something up.". ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6751 Credit: 1,283,817 RAC: 656	Message 1259078 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:35:54 UTC
	Go to here... Forum Issues ____________
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,996,078 RAC: 78,551	Message 1259079 - Posted: 11 Jul 2012, 19:36:03 UTC - in response to Message 1259073.
	The forum software doesn't seem to want to collapse old messages anymore. It also doesn't go to the first new post. You have to keep going to the next page until you see something posted today. Very annoying. We have. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68636&nowrap=true#1258903 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68729 ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
	ID: 1259079 ·

ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1259190 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 1:04:56 UTC
	There are some "live" code updates ongoing to add some experimental features to give easier browsing for mobile devices. Do not adjust your TV set. All the bits will settle as a few more bytes are rearranged in Berkeley... :-) Happy crunchin', Martin (Just following the dev maillist ;-) ) ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1259349 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 13:12:22 UTC - in response to Message 1259190. Last modified: 12 Jul 2012, 13:12:48 UTC
	There are some "live" code updates ongoing to add some experimental features to give easier browsing for mobile devices. Correction: The original request had a greater emphasis on unreliable/intermittent connections, typical of mobile connections. Under similar circumstances, I turned off all sigs and graphics and used the "show last N posts" features to keep things workable. So far... The pagination attempts look rather cumbersome and are proving to be an irksome user interface with too many clicks needed rather than the more simple scrolling... More tweaks needed! Do not adjust your TV set. All the bits will settle as a few more bytes are rearranged in Berkeley... :-) Happy crunchin', Martin (Just following the dev maillist ;-) ) ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Ageless Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 11642 Credit: 2,013,266 RAC: 4,157	Message 1259359 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 13:57:01 UTC - in response to Message 1259075.
	It wasn't broken so they fixed it. Go tell Raistmer that, it was at his request that the forum software should get pages instead of "show only post one and the last X amount in the thread". Because his internet is so darn slow that it couldn't do with that feature. Raistmer, on BOINC_Dev wrote: It's impossible to operate with long threads on websites powered with BOINC via SAT or mobile network connections, they just can load to the end. AFAIK it's common practice to split long threads on separate pages. Why BOINC web software ignores this common practice ? Please, add splitting to pages if thread length exceeds user-defined (in web prefs) number of messages. ____________ Jord - BOINC FAQ Service - BOINC User Wiki Real is just a matter of perception.
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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7141 Credit: 3,687,310 RAC: 965	Message 1259383 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 14:47:07 UTC - in response to Message 1259359. Last modified: 12 Jul 2012, 14:47:50 UTC
	... request that the forum software should get pages instead of "show only post one and the last X amount in the thread". Because his internet is so darn slow that it couldn't do with that feature. ... Note the "intermittent" is likely more significant than the "slow". The other issue is that of how big is the bulk of data needed to display a page. Last N posts and paging are both good options if well done. I found the "last N pages" feature to work very well. The present paging is far too cumbersome and requires too many clicks to navigate through. A selection between the two would be a good idea. An even better idea is to offer a streamlined low data sized view for mobile devices and intermittent connections. I'd guess the biggest bulk is from the remote download of signature links... Is there an option to defang remote links? Keep searchin', Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,996,078 RAC: 78,551	Message 1259384 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 14:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 1259383.
	... request that the forum software should get pages instead of "show only post one and the last X amount in the thread". Because his internet is so darn slow that it couldn't do with that feature. ... Note the "intermittent" is likely more significant than the "slow". The other issue is that of how big is the bulk of data needed to display a page. Last N posts and paging are both good options if well done. I found the "last N pages" feature to work very well. The present paging is far too cumbersome and requires too many clicks to navigate through. A selection between the two would be a good idea. An even better idea is to offer a streamlined low data sized view for mobile devices and intermittent connections. I'd guess the biggest bulk is from the remote download of signature links... Is there an option to defang remote links? Keep searchin', Martin Do you mean options such as these. What to display: Hide avatar images Hide signatures Show images as links ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7466 Credit: 39,769,984 RAC: 33,819	Message 1259385 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 14:55:19 UTC - in response to Message 1259384.
	Do you mean options such as these. What to display: Hide avatar images Hide signatures Show images as links (third group in Community Preferences) I turned off signature display years ago, and never regretted it. Avatars can be a significant contributor to delays on bad links - they would be the next to go.
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1069 Credit: 2,014,689 RAC: 2,639	Message 1259481 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 17:20:11 UTC
	Having worked with the change for 2 days I find it awkward at best. I find it odd that mobile devices are becoming the tail that is wagging the dog. After all this is a PC based project! ____________
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bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,980,361 RAC: 25,012	Message 1259525 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:05:16 UTC
	So now we need a choice of "Newest Page First" then a choice of "Oldest Post on Page Last" to get the same results as before the "Improvements?
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,996,078 RAC: 78,551	Message 1259535 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:20:00 UTC - in response to Message 1259525.
	So now we need a choice of "Newest Page First" then a choice of "Oldest Post on Page Last" to get the same results as before the "Improvements? I think what you want can already be done by showing the newest post first. Community preferences How to sort Posts: Oldest first Newest first Highest rated posts first I have no idea what "Highest rated posts first" does or is suppose to do. ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
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Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 3937 Credit: 361,402 RAC: 796	Message 1259537 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:24:04 UTC
	Like HAL9000 said, the capability was already there. Before the changes, my Community Preferences were set to Show Newest Thread and Newest Post first, Go to First new post in Thread, and show 75 posts per thread. After the changes, the "Show 75 posts per Thread" became "Show 75 posts per page". I have reduced that setting to 40. All the other settings are unchanged, and seem to work fine. YMMV. ____________ Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 5059 Credit: 41,011,050 RAC: 52,806	Message 1259541 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:28:59 UTC - in response to Message 1259537.
	After the changes, the "Show 75 posts per Thread" became "Show 75 posts per page". I have reduced that setting to 40. I've changed it to 500. ____________ Grant Darwin NT.
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JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 756 Credit: 20,556,261 RAC: 35,387	Message 1259552 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:47:38 UTC
	What now? Forum doesn't jump to the last unread post anymore, I've selected 750 posts per page. It worked until just now...
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HAL9000 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 3279 Credit: 76,996,078 RAC: 78,551	Message 1259553 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:49:54 UTC - in response to Message 1259552. Last modified: 12 Jul 2012, 19:27:56 UTC
	What now? Forum doesn't jump to the last unread post anymore, I've selected 750 posts per page. It worked until just now... Yeah, that is what I mentioned in the other thread. EDIT: The work around to fix that is to set 1 post per page. EDIT: It seems this is working correctly now. ____________ SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the BP6/VP6 User Group today!
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Richard Haselgrove Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 7466 Credit: 39,769,984 RAC: 33,819	Message 1259555 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:50:44 UTC - in response to Message 1259535.
	I think what you want can already be done by showing the newest post first. Community preferences How to sort Posts: Oldest first Newest first Highest rated posts first I have no idea what "Highest rated posts first" does or is suppose to do. Once upon a time, these message boards had a system where you could click a + or - under a post (next to the red-x) to show what you thought of a post. People used it to vote up their friends, and vote down everybody else, irrespective of what either group actually wrote. It got switched off.
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bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 567 Credit: 13,980,361 RAC: 25,012	Message 1259557 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 18:51:19 UTC - in response to Message 1259535.
	I was set up so that the newest unread post was shown when I clicked on a thread. Then I could scroll down to read replies and newer posts. Been doing it that way since "GEnie". Oh well.
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