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A thing to consider is that God may be a she and that possibly could explain it all. | |
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A thing to consider is that God may be a she and that possibly could explain it all. Are you suggesting that the universe was created on a PMS day? ;) ____________ | |
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Please refrain from sexist tangents. guido, one you brought up gender. Two IMO there are two schools of thought on this subject, a predestination model and a free will model. You refute the predestination God, that does not preclude the other. ____________ | |
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Bad post, it needs a red x. I really went way off topic, I'm sorry and will stand in the corner and face the wall. | |
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GOD is Here, There, Everywhere, and GOD can do As HE damn well pleases. Whether Humans like it or not. | |
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What exactly did i say for you to assume that i accept the predestination model? Guido, I can easily see your argument for many organized religions, I'm not so sure about God. Upon rereading your original post, I agree, you said if God were to exist. Your point is well taken. ____________ | |
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My take on God is if it exists it can not posses any absolute attributes. Those always lead to a contradiction. For instance if it knows everything then how can it forget? If it has all powers then how can it restrict its own powers? Worse contraindications are introduced if it has assigned concepts of good or evil. Those are human concepts and belong to humans. Creation of the universe has its own issue, what created God? Even if you posit God outside of time, that means there is another time dimension or you can't create, creation implying some kind to time to have a before and after. Again, what created God in this other time? | |
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My take on God is if it exists it can not posses any absolute attributes. Those always lead to a contradiction. For instance if it knows everything then how can it forget? If it has all powers then how can it restrict its own powers? Worse contraindications are introduced if it has assigned concepts of good or evil. Those are human concepts and belong to humans. Creation of the universe has its own issue, what created God? Even if you posit God outside of time, that means there is another time dimension or you can't create, creation implying some kind to time to have a before and after. Again, what created God in this other time? +42! Steve ____________ Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website | |
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Gary, good argument, I remain agnostic. | |
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guido.man, | |
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Science is science and religion is religion; they are not necessarily incompatible. But science doesn't prove religion nor does religion teach us science. The purpose of science is to explain the workings of the physical universe; while the purpose of religion is (very broadly) to teach us how to be better people to each other and to ourselves. | |
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Science is science and religion is religion; Are you sure about that Qui-Gon? Are you really sure they are separate and different things? Did you actually think it through or are you repeating that line because you heard it somewhere else? I disagree with you Qui-Gon. I think religion is what happens when an intelligent civilisation discovers everything there is to know about science. Currently we, the human race, are in a transition period between having almost no science back in the 15th century, to having the vast majority of science right now at the start of the 21st century. By the end of this century, we will have resolved 99.999% of all the problems that currently elude scientists. After that period, from around 2100 onward, there will be no more scientists who "investigate" things to find out how they work. Because we will know how everything works. After that, it will just be engineers who use the science! Its from that point onward, that nobody will be able to argue about the results of science. From that point onward, science will become more like religion than science. In a way, science will loose some of its excitement because we will have all the answers. Its at this point that scientists will start using more and more poetry to describe just how amazing and beautiful things are. More and more analogies will be used to describe things. By the year 2200, science will sound more like the bible you read from ancient times. Full of hidden meaning, coded words and proverbs. Science will have become a full fledged religion that nobody can argue with. And at that stage, the people who control science will have become very powerful, like priests and kings that nobody can argue with. Their scientific word will become Law. So Qui-Gon (Liam Neeson), are you really sure that science and religion are not the same thing! For all of human history, it was the priests that did scientific things. The priests WERE the scientists. Its only in the last 20 years that TV stations have been broadcasting programs that claim Darwinian human evolution is true. You will find out in time that Charles Darwin was wrong, and the Bible is truth. The bible is a description of what happens when scientists go off to new planets and start creating plants and animals, and then other intelligent beings in their own image. And we too will give our future "created" children a book, which we might call it the bible, to let them know their origins. Its cyclical, it just goes around in circles. The "created" becomes the "creator". John. ____________ | |
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snip & that confirms that there is a god? Using your example, what's to say that "someone else" hasn't already done this with the earth? ____________ | |
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snip Sirius B, Thats my very point here! That is what our Bible is!! Its a description of what happened in our past. Scientists who look just like us, and do all the things we do, found a new planet and travelled to that planet, the Earth! They started creating plants and animals through genetic engineering. They were at this for several thousand years because their planet was full of people and they needed a fresh new planet to "create" new living creatures. And finally, around 4,004 BC, they created us Human Beings. Its just like it says in the book of Genesis. But they chose not to give us the scientific knowledge, because just as it says in the bible, if we "ate from the tree of knowledge, we would surely die". If they gave us the science, then we would become "Gods like them". And that is what has happened today, 6,000 years later. We human beings have become "God like" since we have discoverd genetic engineering, and all the other science. I'm not a bible expert, but somewhere in the bible is says that a "day" is a thousand years. They came here roughly about 10,000 BC, created us around 4,004 BC, and today, in the year 2000's, we have entered the 7th "day". A day being a thousand years. Now its our turn to be "Gods" now that we have entered the 7th day. It just goes around in circles, and time goes on and on. The created becomes the creator. John. ____________ | |
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They came here roughly about 10,000 BC, created us around 4,004 BC Have you been reading this? ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... | |
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They came here roughly about 10,000 BC, created us around 4,004 BC Hi Bobby, No, i never read the Chariots of the Gods. But i know whats its about. The dates i mentioned are in lots of books Bobby. All those people get the dates from the Bible itself. I do like Erich von Däniken. I like his bold faced approch to trying to get to the truth. He tells it like it really is! The guy is cool! John. | |
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OMG........?!? | |
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OMG........?!? Shouldn't that be OMD? Devil! ____________ | |
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