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Message 1273684 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 11:07:26 UTC

Our problems will soon be over.
Countdown till outage
and then i won`t even bee able to windge about it.
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Message 1273694 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 11:46:13 UTC - in response to Message 1273653.  

@Grant RAC going down, but my pendings are more than double what they usually are so...

So there's a blockage with the validators.

Nothing amiss with the validators that I can see.
Probably more of a problem with some folks having difficulty reporting their work, so pendings for those who can report go up.
Current server status shows only 31 WUs awaiting validation.
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Message 1273700 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 11:51:46 UTC

I agree Mark.
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Message 1273711 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 12:11:22 UTC
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Guys

From servers page: Results returned and awaiting validation 4,800,701

Just look now and I have more than 12196 pending WU (yesterday was 11k) and rissing against 4K validated (3x). The pendigs starts abnormaly rissing after the vlar bug apears. No vlars/GPUs WU remains on my caches

All my host have no problem to ULs the results on the other side DLs still in pain!

Can we do anything on our side beside seating and drink something while waiting?
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Message 1273715 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 12:34:47 UTC

Thats the amount of work waiting for wingmen.

Workunits waiting for validation is 33.



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Message 1273720 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 12:51:53 UTC - in response to Message 1273715.  

Thats the amount of work waiting for wingmen.

Workunits waiting for validation is 33.


Seems like our wingmens take few days off, normaly Pendings/Validated = 2x, to much pendings = to low RAC!. Now = 12282WU wonder to see when the number stop growing.
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Message 1273723 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 13:11:17 UTC - in response to Message 1273720.  
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...to much pendings = to low RAC!. Now = 12282WU wonder to see when the number stop growing.


It's not about RAC. It's about accomplishing what you are able to for the project. Narrow-sightedness about being the best through RAC takes away from the bigger overall picture.

Back to the topic at hand: I too have a few pending WUs. But I'm still able to upload/download/report. The Pending WUs will clear up when the situation allows.
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Message 1273728 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 13:28:29 UTC
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I agree with you the important thing is find our little green man. Thats our main goal and the reason we all are here!

But in some other view, if RAC means nothing important then why it exist? There are few like me that like to keep it high as possible, ok i admit, makes good for my ego, but i don´t see anything wrong with that.

Just call the atention of that because something must be changed at servers side that make the pendings rise at that hight level (and still rissing as i could see now 12338). And you know, everytime something changes the results could be a time bomb!

And a last thing, the problem is with the DLs not the ULs so the report of WU must be OK so the validation process must be running normaly to as apears in the servers page.
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Message 1273743 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:10:41 UTC

I'm doing my best to get my RAC up higher, but with pendings at 4x it will just take time to get there.

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Message 1273744 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:13:02 UTC

RAC is only a indication nothing more.

For example you can´t compare ATI with nvidia cards by RAC.

Sometimes people mention there are no ATI cards in the top 10 hosts.
So those are crap (to slow) or something
Thats just ignorant.

Nvidias dont run VLARs, ATI´s have to.
Double run time but same credits.
My RAC would be at least 30% higher if i could run only VHARs and mid range units like cudas does.

If i could run AP only my RAC were 50% higher but not possible.
See my pledge drive thread.




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Message 1273748 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:34:25 UTC - in response to Message 1273744.  

"Nvidias dont run VLARs,"

Mine do.
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Message 1273749 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:40:40 UTC - in response to Message 1273748.  

"Nvidias dont run VLARs,"

Mine do.


Most doesn´t.



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Message 1273751 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:42:14 UTC

My ATI have not got any VLAR since Eric fixed the `problem`
Do they still make them ?
Or was the fix that no GPU gets VLAR any more ?
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Message 1273752 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 14:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 1273751.  

My ATI have not got any VLAR since Eric fixed the `problem`
Do they still make them ?
Or was the fix that no GPU gets VLAR any more ?


The fix was for nvidias in particular.

Some nvidia cards crashes whilst processing VLARs.
Not sure its a general thing now.
I dont think so.



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Message 1273772 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:38:47 UTC - in response to Message 1273749.  

"Nvidias dont run VLARs,"

Mine do.


Most doesn´t.


Then you should define what "most" is/means
because my Nvidias from the GTX/GTS 460/450
on up have always been able to run them.

Not as fast as some might like, but work is work.

Unless one is into cherry picking. Don't know what
else it can be called. Flushing some work units that can
be crunched because they run slower than other work units
is cherry picking in my book.

If they cause errors or cause too great a lag
so that it interferes with what the PC is normally
used for, then one has a valid reason to abort them.

Just because they run "slow" is not one of them,IMHO.
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Message 1273776 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:42:21 UTC

I dont talk about this.

VLARs will not be sent to nvidia hosts.
End of story.



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Message 1273777 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:47:09 UTC - in response to Message 1273559.  

Patience is a virtue.

Possess it if you can.
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And never in a man!
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Message 1273778 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:48:32 UTC - in response to Message 1273777.  
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Possess it if you can.
Found seldom in a woman,
And never in a man!
(From my mother's autograph book, ca. 1935)


LOL! That was good, ivan :D
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Message 1273779 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 1273776.  

I dont talk about this.

But you did.

VLARs will not be sent to nvidia hosts.
End of story.


Until the next time they get sent to Nvidia cards.
It's happened before. It will probably happen again.

And a good day to you too.
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Message 1273782 - Posted: 21 Aug 2012, 22:53:46 UTC - in response to Message 1273772.  
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Then you should define what "most" is/means
because my Nvidias from the GTX/GTS 460/450
on up have always been able to run them.

Not as fast as some might like, but work is work.

Unless one is into cherry picking. Don't know what
else it can be called. Flushing some work units that can
be crunched because they run slower than other work units
is cherry picking in my book.

If they cause errors or cause too great a lag
so that it interferes with what the PC is normally
used for, then one has a valid reason to abort them.

Just because they run "slow" is not one of them,IMHO.

to elaborate on what Mike is saying about "most" nVidia GPU hosts not receiving VLARs, i believe that the few nVidia GPU hosts out there that do occasionally (or regularly) receive VLARs are receiving them in error. you see, the server is coded to take angle range into account and prevent VLARs from going out to nVidia GPU hosts. i don't know if the error lies within the server or the handful of nVidia GPU hosts that accidentally receive VLARs.

*EDIT* - Bill, out of curiosity, when was the last time you saw a VLAR running on one of your nVidia GPUs?
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