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The article was extremely interesting (almost as much as this thread) but of course is speculation as, not having made CONTACT, we have no facts as to what any ET is interested in or capable of. But speculation is great in that it gets us to think and look in different directions. Of course the speculation was clearly based on facts we do have here on Earth. But what about that contest that was recently advertised on TV about ordinary people being allowed to broadcast their own messages into space? Could that be like putting a target on our heads? Every time they get those ideas they should be forced to see the Battleship movie... (if they do not learn the consecuences at least they will be punished by having to see that movie again...LOL) ____________ | |
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The article was extremely interesting (almost as much as this thread) but of course is speculation as, not having made CONTACT, we have no facts as to what any ET is interested in or capable of. But speculation is great in that it gets us to think and look in different directions. Of course the speculation was clearly based on facts we do have here on Earth. But what about that contest that was recently advertised on TV about ordinary people being allowed to broadcast their own messages into space? Could that be like putting a target on our heads? What about the thousands of radio and TV stations blasting thousands MegaWatts into space, whithout intention, but it's a fact, that it does so. Any RF signal >30MHz. acts like a beam of light and 'leaves earth', because it isn't reflected by f.i. the Kennelly-Heaviside layer and thus travels into our universe at the speed of light. You can do the math which distance it has reached after 50 years. ____________ Knight Who Says Ni N!, OUT numbered................. | |
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1: Viruses are made for defective products which were deliberately designed to fail, #1: I have seen e-mails from Microsoft on many occasions from developers who identified holes in their software and the responses of "It is not a bug it is a feature" in responses full knowing the results which would incur as a direct result of being complacent with applying a quickfix, only later releasing the virus which would exploit that "feature" which was earlier identified. Fixes came months later after many people had their OS exploited by these issues, when it could have been proactively remedied. Time and time again, in good business sense, you can twist a situation in order to make money, and the designers are told to do things a certain way to maximize profits, even at the cost of disrupting and costing the end user with loss of data and downtime. This is Fact, but to what extent now I do not know as this has been my past experiences. #2: Idea's have been in the past patented by those who did not discover the idea. Nothing is preventing the ethics of use from patenting anything. If I decided to Patent an idea which you discovered, then I can be the person who forces you not to use the technology that you created simply on the premis that if I Patented it "FIRST" then the technology belongs to me. It has happened in the past where individuals have had exploited public resources to further technological advances and then not share the technology but rather profit by them. No matter how fancy you make your guidelines, one principal always comes to mind: "Everything is legal, just as long as you don't get caught". #3: This was just another idea I thought of sharing. Always good to remain objective at every possible angle a situation can lead. You could always slant things to your advantage if you set it up just right. About secrets, the internet is a valuable tool to leak information to the public in efforts to "enlighten" the public, but the US congress is working very hard to limit that with the false flag of "Piracy". There is much behind the scenes which occurs on a daily basis by certain people in power which are designed to limit freedoms and develop mechanisms of control on society. I won't mention the names of these many programs which were attempted to be passed. Not in the greater USA you might ask? Ever hear of Social acceptance? If the idea is acceptable in one place, then it can be applied everywhere. Finally, "MIB" lets not involve Hollywood in this mess. It is already enough clouding our minds with misinformation than to be mixing mainstream entertainment into it. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and it is not always possible to be factual, but at least is possible to be objective. ____________ | |
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#1: I have seen e-mails from Microsoft on many occasions from developers who identified holes in their software and the responses of "It is not a bug it is a feature" in responses full knowing the results which would incur as a direct result of being complacent with applying a quickfix, only later releasing the virus which would exploit that "feature" which was earlier identified. Agreed, but I've seen the same out of some Linux distros too, if you want to be objective and fair about it. I've recently seen detailings of issues trying to get some distros to update known flawed software in their repositories, only to be told that "as long as it is the official version, this is the one we're going to use". Fixes came months later after many people had their OS exploited by these issues, when it could have been proactively remedied. Time and time again, in good business sense, you can twist a situation in order to make money, and the designers are told to do things a certain way to maximize profits, even at the cost of disrupting and costing the end user with loss of data and downtime. This is Fact, but to what extent now I do not know as this has been my past experiences. Agreed. However, none of this addresses the fact that all software, including OSes, are flawed inherently. Your statement that "Viruses are made for defective products which were deliberately designed to fail", as well as your direct comments here about Microsoft suggests that you are targetting Microsoft as if they deliberately design products to fail or are somehow inherently defective. Might I inquire as to what your framework of logic is that classifies a software product as "defective and deliberately designed to fail", and what direct evidence you might have which supports your claim that Microsoft specifically operates under this premise? #2: Idea's have been in the past patented by those who did not discover the idea. Nothing is preventing the ethics of use from patenting anything. If I decided to Patent an idea which you discovered, then I can be the person who forces you not to use the technology that you created simply on the premis that if I Patented it "FIRST" then the technology belongs to me. It has happened in the past where individuals have had exploited public resources to further technological advances and then not share the technology but rather profit by them. No matter how fancy you make your guidelines, one principal always comes to mind: "Everything is legal, just as long as you don't get caught". I fail to see how this pertains to aliens sending us computer viruses. I move that this is quickly moving off topic unless your claiming that someone is able to patent the first claim of discovery on an alien signal. There is much behind the scenes which occurs on a daily basis by certain people in power which are designed to limit freedoms and develop mechanisms of control on society. I won't mention the names of these many programs which were attempted to be passed. Not in the greater USA you might ask? Ever hear of Social acceptance? If the idea is acceptable in one place, then it can be applied everywhere. I don't exactly disagree, but you're quickly moving from topic to topic, and rather politically motivated I might add, which seems to be out of the context of this thread. I never claimed that the government doesn't hide things from the public, only that something as large as alien visitations would never go unnoticed. | |
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I apologize, but I must respectfully disagree with your statement, "I never claimed that the government doesn't hide things from the public, only that something as large as alien visitations would never go unnoticed." | |
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I apologize, but I must respectfully disagree with your statement, "I never claimed that the government doesn't hide things from the public, only that something as large as alien visitations would never go unnoticed." Please re-read my assertion. What I am getting at is the larger the secret, the harder it is to keep under wraps. Sure, there are lots of military advancements that are kept secret from the public, and probably has been so for many decades. Something like alien spacecraft flying around our atmosphere would be nearly impossible and difficult at best to hide from the entire world's population. I would certainly classify alien visitations as being a much larger secret than anything the military is working on or is planning on working on in the future. | |
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Although not alien visitations, I do have first hand knowledge that the United States government has -successfully- hidden certain technological advances from the public for over sixty (yes, -sixty-) years. The nature of this technology would certainly spark some thought-provoking discussions, to say the least. Everlasting light bulbs were invented in the 1940's but suppressed because too many US firms would go bust. There are many more similar examples. | |
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I read in a blog at www.setiquest.org that radio and TV signals are too weak to be detected by aliens living within the Galaxy. Only Arecibo has enough power to be detectable in the galacttic center zone. | |
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I read in a blog at www.setiquest.org that radio and TV signals are too weak to be detected by aliens living within the Galaxy. Only Arecibo has enough power to be detectable in the galacttic center zone. That makes no sense. We can still hear the faint "squeekings" of our space probes (one of which just crossed the distance considered the border of the splar system). If we can hear it and when you think about how loudly we are blasting radio signals out into the galaxy, I would expect that aliens might be able to hear us (assuming they were listening). It's more likely that we would have caught their attention with the testing of nuclear weapons in the atmosphere. If for no other reason that to make a point of avoiding us so they wouldn't face contamination. ____________ | |
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In March 2012 NASA said Voyager was 119.9 AU out from the sun. That is only about 0.0019 light years, or 0.047 % of the way to the nearest star (4 light years). Since radio energy follows a distance squared rule, the Voyager signal arriving at Earth is about (1/0.047%) squared, or 4.4 million times stronger than the signal arriving at the nearest star. And it takes some very large antennas to pick up the signal at earth. | |
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One thing we should be able to notice from our knowledge of recent historical facts are that some things seem to be out of proportions when it comes to both time as well as size. The first two episodes of Enterprise season 4 were highly entertaining, but I don't give them the slightest bit of credence as reality. ____________ David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. | |
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talking about star trek .... in this tv shows they use .... subspace to communicate.... cant subspace really exist ? any works in world on that ? ____________ | |
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Since we have been discussing the capabilities and limitations of technology, both human and alien, I thought I'd pass this along. | |
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I'm more worried to... | |
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PIX . What are you asking ? | |
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Everlasting light bulbs were invented in the 1940's but suppressed because too many US firms would go bust. There are many more similar examples. << for fans of That 70's Show >> "There is no gas shortage man. It's all fake. The oil companies control everything. Like there is this guy that invented this car and it runs on water man. It's got a fiberglass air-cooled engine and it runs on water." Generally the level of conspiracy fear is directly proportional to the consumption of psychotropic drugs. Or something like that. | |
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I've just got an alert from ET Antivirus 2013 telling me my system is infected. They only want fifty klaygaars for a twenty leeptoo licence, sounds like a bargain :)If you think you understand quantum mechanics (or Extra-terrestrial computer viruses) you probably ARE ET. Cute tinfoil hat btw... | |
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You have been looking for how many years? And you post this kind of story? Well thank god I did not go to college. My high school education says your nuts for responding to questions like this. Way to stupid for me. I understand your trying to hook a number of computers to run this search but you really have to explain it truthfully. You have to Tell them we have Norton AV and it checks all incoming packages of info. Except the info is coming from 300 light years away. Just a minor problem right? | |
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