An argument for the existence of God: Second Pass...

This continues from "An argument for the existence of God: First formulation…"


The first formulation was getting very full, so here's a second pass...

Some fairly simple rules
Keep it clean, foul language will not be tolerated
Play the ball, not the man
Deviations from subject will be tolerated, so long as they are within the context of the "debate" (e.g. If someone declares they are dropping out it is perfectly in order to wish them well)

Breaking the above may result in various degrees of moderation being applied.

If someone asks a direct question a direct answer is preferred to one that says nothing but derides the question - this is a request, not a rule, but....



Finally, if it is getting too heated moderators may call "time out" on either individuals, or the whole group. Don't moan - Here I request my fellow moderators to make it quite clear that a time out is being called. Debate about a moderator's call, by an individual, may result in it being more than just a few hours for that individual.
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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Thanks Rob, a new continuation thread makes sense.

Why?

This Thread just gives Me a headache.
Can't people just believe as they choose on This Subject Without Bickering?!.
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I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott

It would be nice Jim. I saw this new thread as an opportunity to stop all that, with a fresh start, and enter into some sensible discussion. If it turns out not to be, then the participants know that it will likely be closed. It's their choice.

For anyone here that is not aware of my postings to these forums in the last year and a half, here is a refresher;

1. I found God. Quite literally, i actually FOUND him!
2. God left a "Book" behind as he was leaving several thousand years ago. I was carrying out some research down in the middle east when i discovered the book. Its was hand written by God himself.
3. I am currently decoding and translating the book (very time consuming). I have been working on this full time for the last year and a half.
4. The book is a written account of what happened before the biblical "book of Genesis", and during the Genesis event itself.
5. As a side note, at the same time i discovered this book God left behind, i also solved some of the greatest problems in physics. In particular problems relating to Gravity.

Any questions?

John 3:7
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Mark -- actually -- you've laid it out quite well.

It is a *belief* in the existence of God (or whatever you wish to call a deity). It is not something that can be proved -- or disproved for that matter.

When some folks who *believe* they have disproved the existence of a deity run up against some folks who *believe* they have proved the existence of a deity, what you observe is lots of bytes tossed back and forth to no purpose.

Mark -- actually -- you've laid it out quite well.

It is a *belief* in the existence of God (or whatever you wish to call a deity). It is not something that can be proved -- or disproved for that matter.

When some folks who *believe* they have disproved the existence of a deity run up against some folks who *believe* they have proved the existence of a deity, what you observe is lots of bytes tossed back and forth to no purpose.

I, of course, have no proof.
The bible laid up to my head is no proof.
Nothing I have seen to date is any 'proof'.
My faith, given to me by my parents, my teachings, my church, is good enough for me.

Why I need proof of little green men wandering the stars is quite another thingy.

K, back to debate:

This is how I would like to start, more words to follow...

How long is a day for God?