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Message 1252754 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 17:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 1252744.

About the same for me -- my maternal grandfather is the only one who would trail back to the mid 19th century.

Then again, my wife has at least one line which goes back to the late 17th century -- an indentured servant from England (I think we would call them immigrant labor today).


Dave, might be neat if all those nativists in this country were compelled to put up or shut up and prove their bona fides by demonstrating lineage IN North America prior to 1607.


I'd be packing my bags if they look past 1907

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Message 1252781 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:19:39 UTC - in response to Message 1252385.
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Hey, we're not giving Texas back to Mexico -- we stole it fair and square.

Don't let President Cristina Fernández Kirchner of ARGENTINA find this out else
she'l get Mexico to side with here over the Falklands issue with the UK.
In the process, if she was to win her case over the Falklands; Mexico, through
dual process, may also be able to claim Texas back too??? You may also have
to pay Mexico for it's lost oil revenues over the past century....ouch!!
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Message 1252786 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:25:44 UTC

This is Texas folks

http://www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/news/2012-06-27/gop-opposes-critical-thinking/

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Message 1252787 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1252781.

Nick, Mexico's 'claim' to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California is likely superior to the Argentine claim. The Argentine NEVER had possession of the Falklands -- in fact, I don't think the Spanish did either.

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Message 1252791 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 1252787.

The Gadsden purchase was about the only legal purchase of Mexican territory. However, this purchase was pretty much forced on the Mexican Gov't of the time.
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Message 1252796 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 18:40:17 UTC - in response to Message 1252791.

And it was pressed on the US by southern interests in a southern railroad line to California.


The Gadsden purchase was about the only legal purchase of Mexican territory. However, this purchase was pretty much forced on the Mexican Gov't of the time.

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Message 1252852 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 20:46:11 UTC

My grandparents were pretty much chased out of Scotland, my parents pretty much chased out of Canada. Most of our ancestors were thrown out of some of the best countries in the word. Or brought here as cargo..

Mexico had California pretty much up to San Francisco bay. Beyond that I believe it was Russian at one point in time.
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Message 1252884 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 21:36:21 UTC

The constant conflicts in the Texas region in the mid 19th century eventually led to the Mexican-American War, which began in 1846 and ended in 1848 with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. Due to the treaty Mexico lost more than 960,000 square miles (about 2,500,000 km²) of land, 55% of its national territory, including what is today California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and parts of Colorado, Wyoming, Kansas, and Oklahoma.

In addition, all disputes over Texas and the disputed territory between Rio Grande and Rio Nueces were abandoned. Five years later the Gadsden Purchase completed the creation of the current United States–Mexico border.

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Message 1252903 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 21:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 1252884.

welcome to American History 101.

Though they glazed over the reason for the texas revolt I'll explain it here. Most whites when they finally got to Texas didn't want to convert to Catholicism nor did they want to become Mexican citizens or learn Spanish. What we learned from that is Americans haven't really changed in 160+ years
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Message 1252976 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 23:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 1252852.

By the 1840's claims on the west coast north of California included the Russians, the Brits and the US. Prior the 1820's, Spain was also in the mix.

By the time of the US conquest and treaty with Mexico in 1848, the Russians had bailed out and the US signed a treaty with the Brits (Webster/Ashburton I believe) which settled a number of border disputes from Maine to the Pacific coast. The US/British compromise there gave what is now British Columbia to the British -- the US had claimed north to 54'40" -- and the remainder to the US.



My grandparents were pretty much chased out of Scotland, my parents pretty much chased out of Canada. Most of our ancestors were thrown out of some of the best countries in the word. Or brought here as cargo..

Mexico had California pretty much up to San Francisco bay. Beyond that I believe it was Russian at one point in time.

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Message 1252979 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 23:39:12 UTC - in response to Message 1252903.

One minor detail you left out -- the Americans who were (in today's parlance) illegal immigrants, revolted to keep slavery --- which wasn't legal in Mexico.


welcome to American History 101.

Though they glazed over the reason for the texas revolt I'll explain it here. Most whites when they finally got to Texas didn't want to convert to Catholicism nor did they want to become Mexican citizens or learn Spanish. What we learned from that is Americans haven't really changed in 160+ years

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Message 1253236 - Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 16:33:55 UTC - in response to Message 1252979.

not exactly. The Mexican Gov't was giving land away to white settlers of Mexican territory if they farmed it for a period of time. There is an organization in Texas recognizing the original 300 families that settled in Texas.

Yes Slavery was also a problem for the Mexican Gov't
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Message 1262395 - Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 4:22:43 UTC

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Message 1262411 - Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 5:45:02 UTC
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I guess some of the posters here are eligible for support by the U.S. Government.

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Message 1262432 - Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 6:55:38 UTC

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Message 1262435 - Posted: 20 Jul 2012, 6:59:31 UTC - in response to Message 1262411.

And what would lead you to that conclusion?

I guess some of the posters here are eligible for support by the U.S. Government.

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