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Nick Send message Joined: 11 Oct 11 Posts: 4344 Credit: 3,313,107 RAC: 0 |
Hey, we're not giving Texas back to Mexico -- we stole it fair and square. Don't let President Cristina Fernández Kirchner of ARGENTINA find this out else she'l get Mexico to side with here over the Falklands issue with the UK. In the process, if she was to win her case over the Falklands; Mexico, through dual process, may also be able to claim Texas back too??? You may also have to pay Mexico for it's lost oil revenues over the past century....ouch!! The Kite Fliers -------------------- Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
This is Texas folks http://www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/news/2012-06-27/gop-opposes-critical-thinking/ |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
Nick, Mexico's 'claim' to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California is likely superior to the Argentine claim. The Argentine NEVER had possession of the Falklands -- in fact, I don't think the Spanish did either. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
The Gadsden purchase was about the only legal purchase of Mexican territory. However, this purchase was pretty much forced on the Mexican Gov't of the time. In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
And it was pressed on the US by southern interests in a southern railroad line to California. The Gadsden purchase was about the only legal purchase of Mexican territory. However, this purchase was pretty much forced on the Mexican Gov't of the time. |
soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6497 Credit: 34,134,168 RAC: 0 |
My grandparents were pretty much chased out of Scotland, my parents pretty much chased out of Canada. Most of our ancestors were thrown out of some of the best countries in the word. Or brought here as cargo.. Mexico had California pretty much up to San Francisco bay. Beyond that I believe it was Russian at one point in time. Janice |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
welcome to American History 101. Though they glazed over the reason for the texas revolt I'll explain it here. Most whites when they finally got to Texas didn't want to convert to Catholicism nor did they want to become Mexican citizens or learn Spanish. What we learned from that is Americans haven't really changed in 160+ years In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
By the 1840's claims on the west coast north of California included the Russians, the Brits and the US. Prior the 1820's, Spain was also in the mix. By the time of the US conquest and treaty with Mexico in 1848, the Russians had bailed out and the US signed a treaty with the Brits (Webster/Ashburton I believe) which settled a number of border disputes from Maine to the Pacific coast. The US/British compromise there gave what is now British Columbia to the British -- the US had claimed north to 54'40" -- and the remainder to the US. My grandparents were pretty much chased out of Scotland, my parents pretty much chased out of Canada. Most of our ancestors were thrown out of some of the best countries in the word. Or brought here as cargo.. |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
One minor detail you left out -- the Americans who were (in today's parlance) illegal immigrants, revolted to keep slavery --- which wasn't legal in Mexico. welcome to American History 101. |
skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60 |
not exactly. The Mexican Gov't was giving land away to white settlers of Mexican territory if they farmed it for a period of time. There is an organization in Texas recognizing the original 300 families that settled in Texas. Yes Slavery was also a problem for the Mexican Gov't In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
Thank you all. I cried, laughed and learned something. Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
musicplayer Send message Joined: 17 May 10 Posts: 2430 Credit: 926,046 RAC: 0 |
I guess some of the posters here are eligible for support by the U.S. Government. |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
Not really M Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2580 Credit: 16,982,517 RAC: 0 |
And what would lead you to that conclusion? I guess some of the posters here are eligible for support by the U.S. Government. |
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