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I just wondered how 130 groups worldwide and countless other like Stanton Friedman and. All of them share the same photos the same videos and all of have proven eaxactly nothing. Nothing you could hang in the Smithstonian Air and Space museam and say yup, thats a UFO. Stanton Friedman and people like Bill Birnes from UFO hunters spent a great portion of their lives trying to prove UFO existance and proved exactly nothing. Stanton every one of his lectures he badmouths SETI. This guy has made a fortune and has been to all 50 states and 16 countries. Hes made a fortune by declaration by proclaimation < his favorite line. Now when they go probing classified area like dugway and Area 51 the government draws the line and slams the dor on any disclosure of anything. All these people do is try to sell books and maintain on the lecture circut $195.00 off the street Students 145.00. Im in the wrong line of work dont havta prove anything. | |
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I think we need to re-visit what a UFO is. It is an Unidentified Flying Object. i.e.an object that has been observed but cannot be explained or identified. It does not necessarily HAVE to be of extraterrestrial origin just because it cannot be explained, it could be a secret government project. | |
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I think we need to re-visit what a UFO is. It is an Unidentified Flying Object. i.e.an object that has been observed but cannot be explained or identified. It does not necessarily HAVE to be of extraterrestrial origin just because it cannot be explained, it could be a secret government project. Heck, they were calling a drone on a flatbed truck a UFO a couple weeks ago. Not even flying. I still remember a news clip from TV some year back. A UFOlogist was saying this group of three lights jerking around the sky in perfect formation was proof of ET visiting. Well at one spot the TV engineer when playing the clip "uncrushed the black" or "made it brighter" and you could then see the outline of the airliner. It was a hand held shot of a airliner using a long telephoto lens. Yet this expert kept on with this as proof positive of us being visited by ET. All I could think of is con man. Perhaps better he steal this way than using a Nigerian scheme. ____________   | |
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All I could think of is con man. Perhaps better he steal this way than using a Nigerian scheme. No worse than any cleric, priest, minister or other holy man. These individuals tend to be well educated so I think that they really do know better, and that what they are putting down is pure and utter nonsense for which there is a huge market and monetary reward. People want to believe in something more than what is factually or perceptably "real". | |
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You totaly right:) some year's before in the 80-90's are a wave of BLACK TRIANGLE sightings, | |
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And why people ignore these credible military officers' claim on the phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI | |
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And why people ignore these credible military officers' claim on the phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI What makes them credible? Just because they're in the military? Even intelligent people are not immune to delusions or being fooled. Don't be an ignorant sheep; don't fall for the worst kind of evidence: eye-witness reports. | |
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And why people ignore these credible military officers' claim on the phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI Yeah from every military branches especially from Air force and Nuclear ICBM Command officers all at same time get haluscinating is very interesting isn't it?! Compare to other job sectors military personnel is supposedly most mentally toughened breeds to survive extreme conditions so I'd prefer not to ignore them. ____________ Mandtugai! | |
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And why people ignore these credible military officers' claim on the phenomenon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jUU4Z8QdHI Well then that's your first mistake. Just because they're trained to be mentally tough, doesn't mean they can't suffer from delusions. If the military were as tough as you suggest, then none of them would ever suffer PTSD after war. The military are not super-humans, they're ordinary people. | |
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This cool Star Wars movie can Tulio translate it for curious viewers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KExx_T4SSds Sounds like italian. :) | |
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No, I think it is Spanish. | |
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Yes. | |
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There is another latest multi witness Ufo incident was one at Chicago O'Hare Airport incident which pilots and airport workers like around 10 people at least saw and unanimously said seeing something saucer hanging on top of one terminal in the sky. | |
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There is another latest multi witness Ufo incident was one at Chicago O'Hare Airport incident which pilots and airport workers like around 10 people at least saw and unanimously said seeing something saucer hanging on top of one terminal in the sky. Right, because any Unidentified Flying Object must be of alien origin. The very fact that O'Hare officials weren't told about a government project must mean an alien cover-up. Please re-read the links posted to Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on Area 51. And that giant Arizona flying V shaped thing that has thousands of witnesses which even harder case to be ridiculed than military mens claims. Why are these videos always at night? These people are chasing flares at night and trying to insist they're alien UFOs. Again, this has already been debunked or explained in the Penn and Teller videos linked elsewhere. Eye witness reports of seeing "lights in the sky" are not evidence of alien UFO visitations. [Edit] For your convenience, the Penn and Teller Bullshit episode dealing with alien conspiracy theories (they talk about Area 51, but it applies equally to all claims): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvLDdItltRo Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ptyKgp84hk Part 2 | |
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That's CGI...,or any kind of photoshop to show an Saucer...,the Jet's&Heli are real. | |
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Now I suspect ozzfan is some form of Disinformation agent from CIA or NSA or some extreme Catholics church group. | |
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Now I suspect ozzfan is some form of Disinformation agent from CIA or NSA or some extreme Catholics church group. Orgil, you need a reality check from your doc. | |
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Now I suspect ozzfan is some form of Disinformation agent from CIA or NSA or some extreme Catholics church group. I'm a skeptic Atheist. I prefer hard evidence rather than eye-witness reports. Especially that Arizona case has even former Arizona governor bravely came forward to support Phoenix ufo case along with its thousands of residents. Yeah, no shortage of people looking for attention. I guess that's why he's a "former" governor. Whatever powerful disinformation agent out here it is just meanengless to debunk a hard case with thousands of witnesses. That's not really a "hard case". Lights in the sky means absolutely nothing. I live near Chicago O'Hare International and I know exactly what lights they're talking about. I suppose with all the eye-witness reports of ghosts and spirits, that each one of those cases must be real too, right? | |
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If some of those UFO sightings were of alien origin then clearly they | |
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Time to put this one to bed: The lights in Phoenix were caused by OPFORS training from Luke AFB. Now to prove it at the start of the film where the lights first start appearing. As the lights appear count seconds at each light is a flare in a f16 magnesium flares on parachutes the amount is set by the pilot in 2 second intervals. Count them and prove me wrong. Too many excellant radars in that area to be anything else. Some can burn for quite some time. The flares are on a switch 2/4/6 second intervals on a F16 which they were using. | |
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