What caused the obesity crisis in the West?

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ML1 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 7140 Credit: 3,685,964 RAC: 986	Message 1245825 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 11:27:15 UTC Last modified: 14 Jun 2012, 11:28:58 UTC
	Not sure if this one is better placed for the Cafe...! :-( What caused the obesity crisis in the West? ... one thing that has changed is the food we eat, and, more specifically, the sheer amount of sugar we ingest. ... ... a highly sweet by-product of waste corn, was also incredibly cheap. It began being used in every conceivable food - pizzas, coleslaw, meat. It provided a "just baked" sheen on bread and cakes. By the mid 1980s, corn syrup had replaced sugar in fizzy soft drinks... ... when the liver is overloaded with sugars, leptin simply stops working, and as a result the body doesn't know when it's full. "It makes your brain think you're starving and now what you have is a vicious cycle of consumption, disease and addiction. Which explains what has happened the world over,"... Addictively sweeter than refined sugar... All far far from sweet... Martin ____________ Mandriva Linux A user friendly OS! See new freedom Mageia2 The Future is what We make IT (GPLv3)
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6723 Credit: 1,283,197 RAC: 672	Message 1245828 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 11:35:31 UTC - in response to Message 1245825.
	Since my days at Kitchen Range, I have never eaten in a fast food outlet. I know what goes into the food. ____________
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,517,305 RAC: 8,756	Message 1245844 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 12:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 1245828.
	Since my days at Kitchen Range, I have never eaten in a fast food outlet. I know what goes into the food. Do you know which foods are genetically engineered to grow larger or sweeter? Few if any have been engineered to give better nutrition. Larger/sweeter/faster/more seem to be the criteria. Do you know which meat product has been genetically modified and which has been fed growth hormones, also a very large potential contamination problem? Do you know how much cow anus is put into your burgers via "Lean Finely Textured beef"? The problem is ALL commercial food has become junk food. ____________ Janice
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Terror Australis Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 04 Posts: 1417 Credit: 181,978,403 RAC: 160,276	Message 1245846 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 12:17:38 UTC
	Is there really an "obesity crisis" ? I think part of the problem is they have moved the goal posts. It used to be the pecking order was skinny, normal, chubby, fat and then obese. The term "obese" was reserved for those who were grossly overweight say greater than 18 stone (approx 250lb or 115kg's). However these days the term "obese" is used for anyone mildly overweight. We are told that one in four people are obese. It's funny but I don't see this when I walk down the street. There is the same range of body sizes there always was. Obesity Crisis my *rse, even in MacDonalds I don't see many obese people Someone, somewhere is telling "porkies" and beating this up into an issue to avoid discussion on a much more serious one. T.A.
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6723 Credit: 1,283,197 RAC: 672	Message 1245860 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 12:41:49 UTC - in response to Message 1245846.
	Someone, somewhere is telling "porkies" and beating this up into an issue to avoid discussion on a much more serious one. T.A. Exactly. ____________
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8943 Credit: 36,710,957 RAC: 60,669	Message 1245904 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 14:18:02 UTC
	but but but the commercials from the makers of high fructose corn syrup tell us there is no difference in their sugar than real sugar. BTW high fructose corn syrup isn't a naturally occurring substance. Since it isn't why isn't it called an artificial sweetner? I think this product falls in line with other non natural substances like partially hydrogenated oils. Our bodies don't react correctly to them because they are not naturally occurring substances. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,095,820 RAC: 6,263	Message 1245942 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 15:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1245904. Last modified: 14 Jun 2012, 15:58:26 UTC
	BTW high fructose corn syrup isn't a naturally occurring substance. Since it isn't why isn't it called an artificial sweetner? Same reason Maple Syrup isn't called an artificial sweetener. ____________
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1183 Credit: 3,474,049 RAC: 516	Message 1255438 - Posted: 4 Jul 2012, 14:32:52 UTC
	I found the secret to weight loss. I'll let you guys in on it. I call it the U.S. Marine Corps weight loss program. It consists of three things. 1) Eat less 2) Exercise more 3) Some public humiliation #3 requires precise timing and a U.S. Marine wearing a smokey-the-bear hat to come up to you at the dinner table just as you start eye-balling dessert and to yell loudly and clearly in a raspy voice, "HAVE ANOTHER DONUT FATBOY!" in front of all your friends, family and who ever else happens to be within ear shot. It's working for me. The Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act is getting ready to have a positive effect on obesity in America in a few years also.
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Sirius B Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 6723 Credit: 1,283,197 RAC: 672	Message 1255446 - Posted: 4 Jul 2012, 14:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 1255438.
	Naw, there's a better diet than that...it's called the... S.A.M.S Diet.... Eat what you want, when you want (but don't make a pig of it) For short journeys...WALK 1 hour after each main meal, talk a short walk If travelling to work by bus, get off a stop back & walk the rest of the way Whenever you find something funny (within reason of course & always depending on where you are), laugh it's good for you. With the exceptions of medical reasons, most obesity is down to laziness, simple as that. ____________
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Ex Volunteer moderator Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Mar 12 Posts: 2883 Credit: 1,160,360 RAC: 870	Message 1255587 - Posted: 4 Jul 2012, 18:53:10 UTC Last modified: 4 Jul 2012, 18:58:25 UTC
	Yep. What Sirius said. And what Guy said (minus the sarcasm and anti-dem political undertones). Eat less. Exercise more. As far as what classifies as overweight and obese, I do agree those terms are used unfairly. Technically I'm overweight, but that's a joke IMO. I'm 6'1, I've always had a large frame, and I weigh 210, give or take 10-15lbs. I "should" weigh 185lbs according to my doc... I haven't weighed that since I was a teenager and almost too skinny. So the terms overweight and obese are kind-of skewed these days it seems. What women put up with is also unfair. Nobody is a freaking 0 unless they are unhealthy looking twigs. gross. The "Obesity epidemic" is simply the result of our relatively cushy lifestyles. The healthiness of our food supply, that's a whole 'nother issue. ____________ -Dave #2 3.2.0-33
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1183 Credit: 3,474,049 RAC: 516	Message 1255596 - Posted: 4 Jul 2012, 19:10:00 UTC
	Anti-dem political undertones? Where did you get that? I want what President Obama had in the first 2 years of his presidency again! Fillibuster proof democrat controlled senate and a majority of democrats in the house again! Just think of the progress that will be made! Look at the progress France is making! And we need more leaders like Mayor Bloomberg! You know, limit the size of soft drinks sold in NYC and promote eating as many hot dogs as possible at Coney Island!
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,095,820 RAC: 6,263	Message 1255613 - Posted: 4 Jul 2012, 19:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 1255587.
	The healthiness of our food supply, that's a whole 'nother issue. That's it! Pink Slime is too healthy. It doesn't cause enough dysentery and diarrhea to get people skinny! ____________
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skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 8943 Credit: 36,710,957 RAC: 60,669	Message 1255996 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 18:29:41 UTC - in response to Message 1245942.
	BTW high fructose corn syrup isn't a naturally occurring substance. Since it isn't why isn't it called an artificial sweetner? Same reason Maple Syrup isn't called an artificial sweetener. Ummm real Maple syrup is boiled down maple sap. No additives. No chemicals altering it structure. basically, you taste maple tree and table sugar(Sucrose) The same cannot be said for High Fructose Corn Syrup. ____________ Proud member of TSWB. End terrorism by building a school
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Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21680 Credit: 2,443,662 RAC: 0	Message 1256074 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 21:32:59 UTC
	What caused the obesity crisis in the West? They start you off at a young age with something called a "Happy Meal" and go from there. ____________
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,095,820 RAC: 6,263	Message 1256107 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 23:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 1255996.
	BTW high fructose corn syrup isn't a naturally occurring substance. Since it isn't why isn't it called an artificial sweetner? Same reason Maple Syrup isn't called an artificial sweetener. Ummm real Maple syrup is boiled down maple sap. No additives. No chemicals altering it structure. basically, you taste maple tree and table sugar(Sucrose) The same cannot be said for High Fructose Corn Syrup. Yep, they add the same enzyme in your saliva to it ... ____________
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1066 Credit: 2,010,413 RAC: 2,645	Message 1256126 - Posted: 5 Jul 2012, 23:53:48 UTC - in response to Message 1256074.
	What caused the obesity crisis in the West? They start you off at a young age with something called a "Happy Meal" and go from there. The free market at work. ____________
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10325 Credit: 5,095,820 RAC: 6,263	Message 1256146 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 0:24:36 UTC - in response to Message 1256126.
	The free market at work. There is a reason it is called the boob tube ... ____________
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1066 Credit: 2,010,413 RAC: 2,645	Message 1256170 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 1:37:36 UTC - in response to Message 1256146. Last modified: 6 Jul 2012, 1:57:53 UTC
	The free market at work. There is a reason it is called the boob tube ... True, but I did not say that the free market is always good for you. ____________
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Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21680 Credit: 2,443,662 RAC: 0	Message 1256225 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 5:08:56 UTC - in response to Message 1256126.
	What caused the obesity crisis in the West? They start you off at a young age with something called a "Happy Meal" and go from there. The free market at work. The free market is tasty. There is a reason it is called the boob tube ... Needs more. ____________
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BarryAZ Send message Joined: 1 Apr 01 Posts: 2480 Credit: 7,460,674 RAC: 13,436	Message 1256258 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:30:04 UTC - in response to Message 1256170.
	Betreger, that can't be true, if you don't believe the free market is always good for you, you must be a socialist. The free market at work. There is a reason it is called the boob tube ... True, but I did not say that the free market is always good for you.
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