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Message 1245332 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 12:10:13 UTC

I've tried several times in the last two weeks to reinstall the optimized apps with the v0.40 installer. Each time, I get an invalid app_info.xml file - it only has one line. The installer seems to be creating some error messages, but they whiz by too fast to read, and I can't find a file with those messages. Is there one?

I had this problem with one of the earlier installers, but I don't remember the cause. Seems like it was because something else was running, but I've tried shutting down everything I can before the install. Can't shut down the anti virus program, but that (and more) was running when I first installed 0.40 without a problem. Anyone remember this problem?

I started out trying to switch to the AP 557 version, but now I'm trying to fix a problem where I'm erroring out my AP CPU tasks. They error out with no result file and zero run time. The error message is -1073741515 (0xffffffffc0000135) Unknown error number. I think I found that problem - some of the AP related files in my backup directory were no longer in the project directory, so I've manually restored them. Haven't tested that fix yet. I only have 3 tasks left to test with, and I'd prefer to get a good run of the installer.
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Message 1245414 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 17:08:21 UTC

We have had a couple of fairly untraceble installer failures, mostly resulting in empty app_info.xml

I don't think error messages are logged to anywhere - Richard? Jason?

Which installer version are you using?
Have you tried a fresh download of the installer?
Have you checked that the paths the installer is going to use is correct?

iirc the error number you mention happens when the r555 app is missing it's dll - the r557 app doesn't need extra files.

If all fails, a functional app_info.xml can be created on a different host, if I know what your choices are and emailed.

Rather try to get the installer to work though, first.
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Message 1245520 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:13:22 UTC
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Which installer version are you using?

Described on website as Lunatics installer v0.40 32 bit version
File name is Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe

Have you tried a fresh download of the installer?

Just tried, no joy - still get an app_info.xml with only one line:
<app_info>

Have you checked that the paths the installer is going to use is correct?

Yes, and it is finding the directory because it sweeps the old app_info.xml to the backup directory, etc.

iirc the error number you mention happens when the r555 app is missing it's dll - the r557 app doesn't need extra files.

I have the following dll files in the project directory (running AMD SSE3 cpu app and the cuda app for Nvidia):

cufft32_32_16.dll 5/17/2011
cudart32_32_16.dll 5/17/2011
libfft3f-3.dll 3/15/2012 is this for AP6 555 version?

If all fails, a functional app_info.xml can be created on a different host, if I know what your choices are and emailed.

My backup app_info.xml is running MB cpu & gpu okay. Here's the AP6 portion of my app_info.xml from that backup:

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<flops>30.87e09</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>

If someone can review that section and confirm what files I need for the 555 app, I'll try another test. I have the 557 app and a related file, but have not tried modifying the app_info to use it. That's a secondary objective at this point - just want to get back to running v555 first.
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Message 1245521 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:18:44 UTC - in response to Message 1245520.

Have you tried running the installer with Admin privileges?

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Message 1245524 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 1245521.

Have you tried running the installer with Admin privileges?

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My user account (XP) is described as "computer administrator". Is there something else I need to do to use admin privileges? This is something I've never understood....
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Message 1245527 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:26:37 UTC - in response to Message 1245520.
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Which installer version are you using?

Described on website as Lunatics installer v0.40 32 bit version
File name is Lunatics_Win32_v0.40_setup.exe

Have you tried a fresh download of the installer?

Just tried, no joy - still get an app_info.xml with only one line:
<app_info>

Have you checked that the paths the installer is going to use is correct?

Yes, and it is finding the directory because it sweeps the old app_info.xml to the backup directory, etc.

iirc the error number you mention happens when the r555 app is missing it's dll - the r557 app doesn't need extra files.

I have the following dll files in the project directory (running AMD SSE3 cpu app and the cuda app for Nvidia):

cufft32_32_16.dll 5/17/2011
cudart32_32_16.dll 5/17/2011
libfft3f-3.dll 3/15/2012 is this for AP6 555 version?

If all fails, a functional app_info.xml can be created on a different host, if I know what your choices are and emailed.

My backup app_info.xml is running MB cpu & gpu okay. Here's the AP6 portion of my app_info.xml from that backup:

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<flops>30.87e09</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>

If someone can review that section and confirm what files I need for the 555 app, I'll try another test. I have the 557 app and a related file, but have not tried modifying the app_info to use it. That's a secondary objective at this point - just want to get back to running v555 first.



your app_info has an open <app> at bottom which should be removed and look like this you can use xml marker a free download.
<app> <name>astropulse_v6</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <flops>30.87e09</flops> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version>


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my ap section looks like this i don't use flops it is a waste of time.
<app> <name>astropulse_v6</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version>

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Message 1245528 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:28:50 UTC - in response to Message 1245524.

Have you tried running the installer with Admin privileges?

Claggy


My user account (XP) is described as "computer administrator". Is there something else I need to do to use admin privileges? This is something I've never understood....


No, it should just work, on non-Admin Accounts you'd just right click on the installer and select 'run as administrator',

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Message 1245533 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 20:40:57 UTC

your app_info has an open <app> at bottom which should be removed and look like this you can use xml marker a free download.

I should have cut off that extract one line earlier - the <app> you see is the beginning of the next section for AP 5.05. My attempt at brevity caused confusion - sorry. Will post entire file if interested.
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Message 1245577 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 21:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 1245533.

your app_info has an open <app> at bottom which should be removed and look like this you can use xml marker a free download.

I should have cut off that extract one line earlier - the <app> you see is the beginning of the next section for AP 5.05. My attempt at brevity caused confusion - sorry. Will post entire file if interested.

I use xml marker to edit all my xml files instead of notepad or notpad++ I have recomended it before it is free to use and it does a good job also a good editor is xml notepad. xml marker will parse the file and find errors and will indent the lines and other usefull stuff.
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Message 1245591 - Posted: 13 Jun 2012, 22:07:37 UTC - in response to Message 1245577.
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I use xml marker to edit all my xml files instead of notepad or notpad++ I have recomended it before it is free to use and it does a good job also a good editor is xml notepad. xml marker will parse the file and find errors and will indent the lines and other usefull stuff.

One should be cautious using some XML-aware editors when editing boinc's files and not let them try to reformat the code in any way.
I think notepad++'s default settings are okay; it just colors the code.
Improperly named ".xml" files used in boinc are not really XML for boinc (has a super simple parser) so an editor might suggest a change that is allowed in XML but boinc will not understand it.
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Message 1245647 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 0:42:42 UTC - in response to Message 1245591.
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Try it out how can you condemned something you never used silly. It works great and it catches errors it's like using a bike when a car is needed.
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Message 1245649 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 0:46:59 UTC

Could we return to topic, please?
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Message 1245657 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 1:13:24 UTC

I would like to know if these changes will let me run the r557 version for AP6:

Have these files in the SETI project directory:

ap6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
APAVX.aistub

Is that enough for this app? LadyL indicated earlier in thread that no DLL is needed for this app.

I would use this modified section in app_info.xml - I just changed the .exe filename in two spots:

<app>
<name>astropulse_v6</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name>
<version_num>601</version_num>
<flops>30.87e09</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>





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Message 1245661 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 1:22:16 UTC
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You need for astropulse_v6
This file in your directory AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe which is in your app_info.xml file.

Edit from your backup file from earlier post. From your new app_info file you need AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe in your directory file from your new app_info.xml file.

Edit I noticed this has two spellings in your app_info.xml file
AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
ap6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
maybe it should be spelled as it is in your directory or maybe it doesn't matter.

Edit in my file and directory AP is in caps

Edit is it like this AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
or is it like this AP6_01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
in your directory should be the same in your app_info.xml file.
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Message 1245677 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 2:12:33 UTC

You need for astropulse_v6
This file in your directory AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe which is in your app_info.xml file.

Edit from your backup file from earlier post. From your new app_info file you need AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe in your directory file from your new app_info.xml file.

Edit I noticed this has two spellings in your app_info.xml file
AP6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
ap6.01r557_SSE2_331_AVX.exe
maybe it should be spelled as it is in your directory or maybe it doesn't matter.

Edit in my file and directory AP is in caps



Not sure the case matters but changed to make the proposed section agree with the way Windows shows the file name.

Just noticed that your app_info file you posted earlier has a platform section and mine doesn't have that for any of the apps.

<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>

Is that an Intel vs. AMD thing or am I missing those lines? Do youi have them for other apps?

I'm going to hold off testing with the r557 app to let others comment.
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Message 1245678 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 2:15:01 UTC

Here is my whole app_info file

<app_info> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>603</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AK_v8b2_win_x64_SSE3.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>astropulse_v6</name> </app> <file_info> <name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v6</app_name> <version_num>601</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>astropulse_v505</name> </app> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <cmdline>-v505</cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name> <version_num>505</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <cmdline>-v505</cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r555.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> <app> <name>setiathome_enhanced</name> </app> <file_info> <name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cudart32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <file_info> <name>cufft32_32_16.dll</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_intelx86</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>610</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda_fermi</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>609</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda23</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cufft32_32_16.dll</file_name> </file_ref> </app_version> <app_version> <app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name> <version_num>608</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <plan_class>cuda</plan_class> <avg_ncpus>0.040000</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>0.040000</max_ncpus> <coproc> <type>CUDA</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <file_ref> <file_name>Lunatics_x41g_win32_cuda32.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> <file_ref> <file_name>cudart32_32_16.dll</file_name> 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Message 1245685 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 2:31:54 UTC

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Message 1245851 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 12:29:26 UTC
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Paul you are posting 64 bit versions. Fred indicated that he has 32 bit. They look different!

We have 32 bit and 64 bit installers for two reasons: different CPU apps and different necessary app_info entries. while they look similar they are not interchangable!

Fred, the AP6 r557 entry you posted is good to go.

pay attention to runtimes when you add flops - r557 tends to be faster than r555. with APR working you don't need flops, but they can come in handy.

AFAIK Windows isn't case sensitive - the installer versions have lowercase ap in both .exe file name and aistub.
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Message 1245867 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 12:55:18 UTC
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Paul you are posting 64 bit versions. Fred indicated that he has 32 bit. They look different!

We have 32 bit and 64 bit installers for two reasons: different CPU apps and different necessary app_info entries. while they look similar they are not interchangable!

Fred, the AP6 r557 entry you posted is good to go.

pay attention to runtimes when you add flops - r557 tends to be faster than r555. with APR working you don't need flops, but they can come in handy.

AFAIK Windows isn't case sensitive - the installer versions have lowercase ap in both .exe file name and aistub.

Thanks for the comments and help, LadyL. I had just given up on the installer and proceeded to implement the r557 plan. For benefit of others following this, there was an error in the proposed app_info section I posted - I missed an underscore in the file name. File name s/b ap_601 etc. vs ap601 etc. Must have been tired of this problem! I suspended network ops for the test, so I was able to get resends for the trashed tasks after I fixed it. I always suspend network before installs, testing, etc.

I'm now fetching work, but I will soon intervene with selected task suspensions to run one AP task with r557.
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Message 1245871 - Posted: 14 Jun 2012, 13:01:29 UTC - in response to Message 1245867.

Paul you are posting 64 bit versions. Fred indicated that he has 32 bit. They look different!

We have 32 bit and 64 bit installers for two reasons: different CPU apps and different necessary app_info entries. while they look similar they are not interchangable!

Fred, the AP6 r557 entry you posted is good to go.

pay attention to runtimes when you add flops - r557 tends to be faster than r555. with APR working you don't need flops, but they can come in handy.

AFAIK Windows isn't case sensitive - the installer versions have lowercase ap in both .exe file name and aistub.

Thanks for the comments and help, LadyL. I had just given up on the installer and proceeded to implement the r557 plan. For benefit of others following this, there was an error in the proposed app_info section I posted - I missed an underscore in the file name. File name s/b ap_601 etc. vs ap601 etc. Must have been tired of this problem! I suspended network ops for the test, so I was able to get resends for the trashed tasks after I fixed it. I always suspend network before installs, testing, etc.

I'm now fetching work, but I will soon intervene with selected task suspensions to run one AP task with r557.


uh sorry, I must be tired too, I missed that one. I usually copy paste the filename from the .exe or .dll into the aistub/app_info I'm editing to avoid typos like that.
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