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Message 1250938 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 16:40:35 UTC

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Message 1250995 - Posted: 24 Jun 2012, 18:45:53 UTC

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Message 1263333 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 13:17:08 UTC

If true, this is disgusting!

"Super rich" hiding at least $21 trillion
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Message 1263361 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 15:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 1263333.  

If true, this is disgusting!

"Super rich" hiding at least $21 trillion

Don't want them to "hide" it in plain sight, I doubt the Cayman Islands would put up much resistance to a modern navy.

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Message 1263509 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 22:29:12 UTC - in response to Message 1263449.  

I doubt the Cayman Islands would put up much resistance to a modern navy.

The funds are held electronically, not millions of gold bars in some vault that can be raided. When you put money into a deposit account from your current account, no physical cash changes hands. Poeple don't turn up to the Cayman Islands in their yacht with suitcases full of bank notes!

If you seize the computer you control the funds.

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Message 1263520 - Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 23:41:16 UTC - in response to Message 1263510.  

Maybe, but by what right could a country invade another (Ignoring Falklands) without declaring war? You can't turn an economic war into a physical one.

Of course you can. It is the they have got, we want, we take, approach. You know Robin Hood. I suggest you look at the causes of war.

However it doesn't have to go that far. Just cut them out of the electronic funds transfer business. A blockade. Then all those credits sitting on an electronic deposit record are worthless. As you said, there aren't bars of gold waiting for someone to pick up.

If the rest of the world wants disclosure to its tax people of names and account balances, it can have it anytime it wants. Just the mere threat and they will cave.

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Message 1267000 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 11:15:24 UTC

The other side of the coin....

Should they be taxed?

US Olympic medal winners facing tax bill on their medals & winnings
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Message 1267083 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 15:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1267057.  

Of course they shouldn't, shame on the USA.

Any income from any source ... the tax rate isn't high enough on these 1%'ers either. Heck you would think they went to London to escape the US tax man, just like banking in Switzerland or the Cayman Islands.

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Message 1267109 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 16:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 1267088.  

Hey, I thought this was amateur athletics. By the way, it isn't the medal that gets taxed, its the winnings. And, of course, if you are in the business of getting at athletics income (and many of the Olympians are) you can offset the winnings with the costs of doing business.

Of course if you built it yourself -- with no expenses for anyone since you trained on your parents land and had no trainers and swam over to the UK on your own, then a lot more of the winnings would be taxable.
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Message 1267188 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 18:54:58 UTC

Of course the value of the medal is taxable. Give someone a gold bar or silver ingot and you think that escapes tax?

It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA calls that being a paid athlete and disbars from college athletics because of it.

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Message 1267232 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 20:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 1267188.  
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It isn't the medals that cause major tax issues, it is the cash awards that go with them:


Weighing 400 grams, the Olympic gold medals that are being doled out at the London 2012 Summer Games are the heaviest ever, according to reports. But that doesn't mean they're the most valuable: at an estimated $620.82, they're nearly $590 short of the $1,207.86 value held by a gold medal from the Stockholm Games of 1912.

The discrepancy stems from the fact that the 2012 gold medals contain only 6 grams of gold; the rest is silver and copper. In fact, the London bling contains more copper than gold, which is only used to coat the medals with a plating layer.

The Cash awards for Olympic medals -- $25K for Gold, $15K for Silver, $10K for Bronze. That's where the tax liability adds up. Unless the winners have Rmoney's tax advisors, that means they have a real tax liability -- perhaps 20% or more depending on their other income.
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Message 1267236 - Posted: 3 Aug 2012, 20:42:24 UTC - in response to Message 1267188.  

The NCAA would have no problem as long as THEY got a cut.




It wouldn't surprise me if the NCAA calls that being a paid athlete and disbars from college athletics because of it.

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Message 1297573 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 13:18:35 UTC

It seems this problem just won't go away....

...Now it's eBay's turn.....

eBay avoids paying £50 mill tax
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Message 1297593 - Posted: 21 Oct 2012, 13:56:09 UTC
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The best approach is to have flat taxes, at say 15% and 35% on an income change point (say £60K). Then all allowances, compensated by the flat tax, would be abolished (no exceptions, no allowances, no loop holes), and prosecutions if tax lawyers/accountants tried this on.

That would simplify tax matters, and remove non-jobs which contribute nothing to the economy (just paper shuffling) for accountants and lawyers. We have lost much of our own markets, which can be recaptured.

Get these people in to manufacturing, as there is lots to go for to replace imports with UK manufacturers.
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Message 1300601 - Posted: 30 Oct 2012, 23:38:03 UTC

Editor facing jail for exposing tax evaders

Couldn't happen here, could it?

"Plenty of prominent characters would cheerfully see reporters banged up for publishing inconvenient truths about their behaviour"

Yep, & we all know who they are!
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Message 1302050 - Posted: 4 Nov 2012, 12:13:56 UTC

Public sector workers employed by tax avoidance firm

"Mr Murphy told the BBC: "The UK can't afford this tax loss and it can't afford so many households being put at tax risk. This is a scandal waiting to break."

The government also stands accused of having ignored the problem despite warnings.

Professional Passport wrote to Treasury minister David Gauke in July 2011 to point out the "potentially embarrassing" issue of public sector agency workers being employed by offshore umbrella companies.

Mr Temple says he is yet to receive a response."

Further confirmation that the muppets at the top are just not listening!
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Message 1304995 - Posted: 11 Nov 2012, 18:09:18 UTC

Pot, Kettle & Black springs to mind.....

Labour MP's company pays 0.25% tax on £2.1 billion


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Message 1305421 - Posted: 12 Nov 2012, 17:53:06 UTC

Another reason why Public Utilities should be re-nationalised.....

3 of UK's biggest Water Companies paid little or no Corporation Tax

Also see Starbuck's getting hammered, & so they should - declaring to the world that they're making Loadsa of Moneee, & at the same time, telling our HMRC, they're making losses.....

Which is it Starbucks?
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Message 1305673 - Posted: 13 Nov 2012, 2:31:10 UTC - in response to Message 1305421.  

Sirius, you don't have to buy Starbuck's, I don't.
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Message 1305706 - Posted: 13 Nov 2012, 5:10:56 UTC

Sirius, you didn't have to vote in the Starbucks tax loopholes, but maybe you thought the employment and sales (VAT?) would offset the missed corporate income tax.

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