That sounds suspiciously like you had an original XP installation - they were problematic to install.

With the release of XP SP1, some of those issues were resolved.

yep, that it was, but I didn't wait for sp1, reformatting fixed my problems lol
until it popped it's gasket and kinda melted it's power supply.

Ah, so then it was a controller problem! Windows XP didn't have drivers for the then new SATA controllers (up to that point, everything was PATA).

Which leads me back to: the OS's drivers are only as current as when it was compiled. Windows XP SP1 added limited support for SATA drives, SP2 & SP3 were much better.

Certainly can't fault XP for that since the code writers cannot possibly guarantee compatibility with a future standard.

true, but they could have warned us xD

true, but they could have warned us xD

They've made up for that mistake. Now they're calling them Previews... :)

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true, but they could have warned us xD

In the same way that fortune tellers forewarn people about pending events?


I don't mean this to sound sarcastic, but anyone who keeps up with Windows news or the Tech industry in general knew about the OSes limitations. Should the average user have known about it? Depends on how much research they do, like with things in life (not just computers).

That's true. However, most home users want their computers to just boot up & go. Many just don't want to "look under the hood & understand how they work".

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At that point in time all I knew about computers was how to turn it on and open up the browser or play Diablo 2 LOD lol

I would have definitely qualified as a 'turn the key n go' kind of person.
Course that was going on 8.5 years ago too. Didn't have anyone around me that really knew much about computers.

That's true. However, most home users want their computers to just boot up & go. Many just don't want to "look under the hood & understand how they work".

Agreed, but any engineer will tell you that the world doesn't really work that way. Progress is being made to make it "seem" that way, but it takes a lot of work and trial and error.

true, but they could have warned us xD

In the same way that fortune tellers forewarn people about pending events?


I don't mean this to sound sarcastic, but anyone who keeps up with Windows news or the Tech industry in general knew about the OSes limitations. Should the average user have known about it? Depends on how much research they do, like with things in life (not just computers).

The average user wants an appliance. They refuse to know more. Perhaps why I think the average user should look at Apple. They build appliances. And appliances need to be closed systems.

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The average user wants an appliance. They refuse to know more. Perhaps why I think the average user should look at Apple. They build appliances. And appliances need to be closed systems.

Apple knew that which is why they're the biggest company. Microsoft has come late to the table & attemting to do the same with Win 8.

Personally, I can't see them getting anywhere near Apple.

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true, but they could have warned us xD

In the same way that fortune tellers forewarn people about pending events?


I don't mean this to sound sarcastic, but anyone who keeps up with Windows news or the Tech industry in general knew about the OSes limitations. Should the average user have known about it? Depends on how much research they do, like with things in life (not just computers).

The average user wants an appliance. They refuse to know more. Perhaps why I think the average user should look at Apple. They build appliances. And appliances need to be closed systems.

Agreed, just like the average driver just wants to drive the car. Though Apple has had their share of goofs and gaffs.

lol my firt computer was a apple.
Mac Performa 575.
I was so proud that I could get a computer.
Still can't believe I paid like $2,300 for it.
The year after I got it, it went obsolete and a year and a half after I got it?
It melted. Smoke started puffing out of it and I tossed it in a snow bank lol
I was so mad...

I have a huge dislike of apple computers.
Closest I will go to that company is ipod touches I bought on eBay :)
I would rather save up for a galaxy tab 2 than get an over priced ipad.
With samsung, I don't have to buy talk time with support. rofl

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I agree Chris, I tryed for 20 minutes to get the free version. I gave up and just renewed the AV i was using.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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I agree Chris, I tryed for 20 minutes to get the free version. I gave up and just renewed the AV i was using.

Not sure of Avast but AVG started doing that since v9. Since then I always use CNET, that way don't get the irritating search.

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Hehehe

Pops up as malware. Nice one Bobby. Who's side are you on?

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Trust Microsoft. Trust the government. They are both here to help you.

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/policy-and-strategy/230985-senate-dems-blast-leaks-about-iranian-cyberattacks

rofl he lies! he lies!
*gigglefithiccup*

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I has a MiniCity :)
http://en-ki-du.myminicity.com

As far as free antivirus, what do people have against Microsoft Security Essentials? (besides the obvious that it's microsoft) Used in conjunction with weekly manual scans by malwarebytes free, I have not had any issues.

It's free yes, but it's well updated, and backed by a giant that is out to defend it's OS, (I hope)...


As far as AVG, yep it's free, just gotta be able to pinpoint the free version hiding in all that crap they want you to buy... Hey it's just like the rest of the internet and world. People just need to be wary.

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#resist

I don't implicitly trust Microsoft, but I do prefer their software over many others. But if this missing start button crap is the future of Windows, I may be forced to switch to Linux finally. I've defended nearly every version of Windows, even to some extent Windows ME, but Windows 8 is just too much all at once and not even for the right reasons. (There are, however, a few things in Windows 8 that I really like.)

Now the US Government, I don't trust at all. The less government involvement in our daily lives, the better.



And Dave #2 is right, Microsoft Security Essentials is a great piece of AV software. I actually plan on deploying the server version of it, Microsoft Forefront Protection, on my home network. Maybe all my computers will stay with Win7 and Server 2008 R2.

OT[Just pick a linux without Unity as it's desktop, as that suffers from the same lack of "start" menu... ]

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#resist