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Message 1259607 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 21:51:50 UTC

It seems that the traditional desktop we know is being killed off,
More operating systems are going over to some kind touch screen tablet type format.
It seems as if the developers think that `everyone uses them`
Well i have not and dont like big blobs of icons all over the screen.
I am a mouse clicky drop down menue type.
or even a keyboard and tab driven system.
Not a multitouch finger likin thingy in the house.
Baa humbug,
new fangled teckno geekery :¬)

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Message 1259610 - Posted: 12 Jul 2012, 22:02:43 UTC

Yeh, me too.
I found out Gnome 3 is not much liked either.

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Message 1259738 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 8:48:57 UTC
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I run it and like it a lot so far. In face I have ran it since developer preview. No major problems yet, except for some driver issues but no biggy.
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Message 1259827 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 13:11:16 UTC
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I am a mouse clicky drop down menue type.
or even a keyboard and tab driven system.
Not a multitouch finger likin thingy in the house.
Baa humbug,
new fangled teckno geekery :¬)


Thank god for that, I thought I was on my own there for a minute. Right, let's start a revolution here and now. I propose a new international organisation, dedicated to opposing new MS versions of Windows. We will have the Campaign motto "Bugger off latest limp over crappy klutz system"

I think you can all see what our letter heading and logo will be. So folks, let it start here!

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Message 1259837 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 13:35:26 UTC - in response to Message 1259827.

I am a mouse clicky drop down menue type.
or even a keyboard and tab driven system.
Not a multitouch finger likin thingy in the house.
Baa humbug,
new fangled teckno geekery :¬)


Thank god for that, I thought I was on my own there for a minute. Right, let's start a revolution here and now. I propose a new international organisation, dedicated to opposing new MS versions of Windows. We will have the Campaign motto "Bugger off latest limp over crappy klutz system"

I think you can all see what our letter heading and logo will be. So folks, let it start here!

I don't mind touch input when it can be useful or faster than other forms of input. However, I don't see the desktop as being one of them. My monitor is normally further away than my arms are long anyway.
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Message 1259861 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 15:19:38 UTC

My monitor is normally further away than my arms are long anyway.

Exactly. It will only work with tablets and the like, and who wants one of them unless you are a show off or a nerd, or have too much money ....

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Message 1259863 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 15:40:39 UTC - in response to Message 1259861.

My monitor is normally further away than my arms are long anyway.

Exactly. It will only work with tablets and the like, and who wants one of them unless you are a show off or a nerd, or have too much money ....


LOL... just a couple of years ago, I thought that LCD/Plasma monitors will never make it to my desktop: Its only worth for notebooks, Ive said, you cant see well if you are not at the right angle and they are awfully expensive.

Well... You know... My TRC died, and the LCD was cheaper than fixing it...

Now that we have touch screen the next step is speech recognition, I mean true recognition not just command recognition... "Computer, where are my glasses?" :D




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Message 1259876 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 16:33:16 UTC - in response to Message 1259863.

My monitor is normally further away than my arms are long anyway.

Exactly. It will only work with tablets and the like, and who wants one of them unless you are a show off or a nerd, or have too much money ....


LOL... just a couple of years ago, I thought that LCD/Plasma monitors will never make it to my desktop: Its only worth for notebooks, Ive said, you cant see well if you are not at the right angle and they are awfully expensive.

Well... You know... My TRC died, and the LCD was cheaper than fixing it...

Now that we have touch screen the next step is speech recognition, I mean true recognition not just command recognition... "Computer, where are my glasses?" :D

You were saying that just a couple of years ago? I've been using a LCD monitor for around 8 years or so. Wow, It might be time to get a new one...

Speech recognition is pretty good these days. I can ask my, 2 year old, phone "where are my pants" and it retrieves a list of tailor shops in the area. The newer logic software such as Siri does a lot better job in understanding concepts.
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Message 1259880 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 16:51:17 UTC

You were saying that just a couple of years ago? I've been using a LCD monitor for around 8 years or so. Wow, It might be time to get a new one...


The only monitor I have in my house is a 9YO CRT flatscreen. Weighs a ton. :-)

But even though I love my desktops, I never actually sit AT them. My laptop is all I use to access those machines.




As far as the changes in the desktop OSs to be more touch-friendly. That's fine with me, I'm ok with change. But they need to leave options in the OS to set it up for proper desktop use as well.

I freaking LOVE the 'Mate' desktop. It's everything Gnome3 and Unity and Win8 are not.
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Message 1259921 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 18:10:44 UTC - in response to Message 1259876.

You were saying that just a couple of years ago? I've been using a LCD monitor for around 8 years or so. Wow, It might be time to get a new one...

Well... I live in the 3rd world... But also, as I become older, "a couple years ago" tend to be much more than "2 years ago" ...

Speech recognition is pretty good these days. I can ask my, 2 year old, phone "where are my pants" and it retrieves a list of tailor shops in the area. The newer logic software such as Siri does a lot better job in understanding concepts.


But, AFAIK, Siri is a kind of cloud service... which is good for handheld devices, but not for space ships... ;b
(And for sure, Win-whatever-number is not a good choice, Metro or not, for a space ship. LOL)
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Message 1259925 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 18:15:53 UTC - in response to Message 1259880.


I freaking LOVE the 'Mate' desktop. It's everything Gnome3 and Unity and Win8 are not.



Hmmmn, choices, choices....

Win 8 or Mint 13.... That is the question!

Finished playing around with Mint (as a mounted .iso in VM) & okish...

Completed installation & it's damned fast, even picking up the network without any configuration....very nice & no damned remote access issues..VERY nice.

Only problem is that it's not picking up my D-Link Sharecenters atm.... so got some reading/playing around to do.....
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Message 1259953 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 19:16:12 UTC

Only problem is that it's not picking up my D-Link Sharecenters atm.... so got some reading/playing around to do.


My machines running Ubuntu and Mint can access my Windows Home Server files without any config.

Just went to "browse network".


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Message 1259969 - Posted: 13 Jul 2012, 20:00:26 UTC - in response to Message 1259953.

Only problem is that it's not picking up my D-Link Sharecenters atm.... so got some reading/playing around to do.


My machines running Ubuntu and Mint can access my Windows Home Server files without any config.

Just went to "browse network".



That's not a problem Bernie. Mine is doing the same. However, the Sharecenters are connected to the router & each have their own IP address, yet they're not being picked up whereas the other 2 rigs as well as SBS & WHS are.
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Message 1260622 - Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 11:59:53 UTC

MS Confirms Win 8 released in October

Nice upgrade costs M$ - £25 ($40), trying to tell us something we already know?
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Message 1261539 - Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 14:13:05 UTC

Hmmn, seems Microsoft is going to be pushing Win 8 & Metro as far as they can.....

Microsoft aqquires firm to produce touchscreens
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Message 1261598 - Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 21:59:23 UTC

Yep, and office 13 preview is now available as well.

I got windows 8 release preview installed on a spare partition in June, with office 2013 linked in today displayed via metro.

Windows 8 is starting to grow on me, especially now I linked up the office preview today.

Although ( as has been said elsewhere), this is no start button on the desktop, users can get around and get that.

I spent a number of hours getting to know the set-up and layout, and it's all starting to come together.

This reminds me of the major interface change from windows 6.22 to windows 95, when major changes occured to the GUI.

I'm not promoting windows 8, just evaluating it, but now today, I have certainly not written it off.......time will tell !

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Message 1261600 - Posted: 17 Jul 2012, 22:04:46 UTC

Paragrah 4 of my last post should end with ".....users can get around that"

Tired old eyes I think lmaoooooooo

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Message 1261717 - Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 7:37:59 UTC

I tried to instal it as a virtualbox "guest" OS. Unfortunately my Lappie doesn't have VT-x or VT-i support so can't run it via vbox.
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Message 1261734 - Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 8:42:26 UTC


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Message 1261808 - Posted: 18 Jul 2012, 13:12:54 UTC - in response to Message 1261734.


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