Radioactive fish in the Pacific

I think the NYTimes is the best newspaper in the world. Unfortunately, they have restricted me to no more than 10 free articles a month, so I must be careful about what I read.
Tullio
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After any kinds of denials, insults it is clear anything plutonium and uranium involved affairs there is always us government trails involved. Japan has long rich military history with america so it is clear to every one that any piece of uranium in japan is always under american watch. That means even tepco messed up the proper handling of uranium facility then it was always known to the original fuel producer.

Before those tepco plants 3 nuke explosions everyone's belief was japans are technology gods something but now that belief has changed forever they even imported water spray machines from china to cool down the exploded reactors and imported small flying robots from america. That means japanese have tons of negligent sides as anyone else. That is why now new yorkers are rising against their neighbouring nuke plant because that old plant very likely have numerous neglected features if japans have with theirs. (I'll argue that those 3 explosions were definatily nuclear explosions that is why Pacific ocean is messed up for at least 100 years)

This much radiation should take some serious explosion.
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Mandtugai!

A nuclear reactor cannot explode unless it is a fast breeder, like Phenix and Superphenix in France and Dounreay Fast Reactor in UK, all stopped for safety reasons. In Japan there is one at Tokai Mura, if I remember well, also stopped. The USA had a close call with the Fermi reactor in Detroit. A book was written about this, "The day we almost lost Detroit".
Tullio
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Yeah this was definetily nuclear related explosion:









http://cbryanjones.com/journal/storage/post-images/fukushima-radiation-plot.png?format=original


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Mandtugai!

Yeah this was definetily[sic] nuclear related explosion:

Wow finally the first true words you have written. Translation there was an chemical explosion at a nuclear facility.

Do you know what any of the numbers on those pretty charts mean in terms of human exposure? You should be able to find a bunch of pretty charts saying what level of radiation from which isotope will harm a human or a fish. The data has been out there for a long time. Why don't you make some other pretty charts to show with the levels in the Pacific how many humans will be harmed. You have the raw data already. Sure doesn't seem to be a coverup.

Oh, it is safe to live at Hiroshima or Nagasaki today? Those really were what you like to impute Fukushima as.

And that hiroshima explosion was tiny stuff compare to todays single nuke reactor nuking capacity.

I believe the gentleman has lost all credibility.

How to not make a disaster worse. Do you deny its happening or get everyone the hell out of there and do your best to remedy the situation. Disasters do happen. How we deal with them is another thing.


Here are some numbers for you to chew on and to think about.

Chernobyl accident is equivalent to 500 nuclear bombs used in Hiroshima in 1945.
The releases contaminated an estimated 17 million people to some degree.
143,000 people have been evacuated from contaminated areas of Ukraine
600,000 people took part in liquidating effects of the disaster, 100,000 of which already died or are now handicapped
Cases of leucosis and thyroid cancer exceed average by 2 and 5 times correspondingly among the Chernobyl victims.
There are 1.8 million people residing on the territories of Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus, which are still defined as contaminated
For the 14 years since the disaster 300,000 died in Ukraine alone from the radiation sickness

Ukraine has beaten Sweden 2-1. I saw tens of thousands of people cheering their players and they looked in perfect health.
Tullio
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I guess we have in asia more better type of information about japan and asian nuclear events than westerners do. What else can I say my simplistic scientific facts supported approach is seemingly totally useless against yours ignorant dismissive logics.

The whole point is japans totally messed up the largest water reserve on earth maybe for the next several centuries but the radiation pollution source was controlled by someone else behind their back.
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Mandtugai!

It seems to me unlikely that the USA would pollute an ocean that washes on the beaches of Hawaii and California. Would they want the bikinis to become as radioactive as Bikini Island?
Tullio
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they have restricted me to no more than 10 free articles a month,

NPR had an interview with an American worker that was in the facility to make sure it met safety and quality standards.

He and several of the Japanese workers were caught inside the building as power was lost. His claim is that there was nothing that could have stopped the disaster. He also went on to say that the plant was not in any way compromised due to substandard safety or maintenance standards

The plants fatal flaw was having diesel generators where they could easily be flooded in a Tsunami. Again, the Japanese are very aware of Tsunamis and have built dikes and Tsunami walls to funnel and prevent flooding from a Tsunami. This Tsunami just went right over their defenses. This Tsunami was well beyond any expected ever.
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