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kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
And to address the initial issue..... It seems that for all of you the best way to discuss racism is to ignore it. Way to go, chaps. Diss my thread and all hopes of an honest discussion on the topic, dear Frederick. For the want of a single word. Now, I ask you, who is lacking compassion and understanding here? It is not I./ "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
What I don't understand is that you claim you want to have a discussion about racism, yet when people attempt to engage you, all you do is get belligerent, or you think you're being cute and witty. You seem to forget that my initial post was dimissed by the mod on high due to it's controversial nature and the inclusion of terms deemed by me to be partial to the discussion. It's kinda hard to discuss the night without calling it dark. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
What I don't understand is that you claim you want to have a discussion about racism, yet when people attempt to engage you, all you do is get belligerent, or you think you're being cute and witty. Then I'm afraid we'll never be able to have the discussion you wish, and rightly so as SETI@Home is not the place for it. I already told you how you can have the discussion, but I think I was right, you want to have the discussion your way, and if you can't have it your way, you'll just do like you always do..... |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
What I don't understand is that you claim you want to have a discussion about racism, yet when people attempt to engage you, all you do is get belligerent, or you think you're being cute and witty. I think the only intelligent comment you have made on the initial point so far....... Is maybe the subject it too flammable for the Seti boards to handle. It is a hot one. "Have the discussion MY way, or not at all?" Like I said, my friend, why discuss the night if you are not allowed to call it dark? I don't make the rules here, they have been laid out before me, and quite forcefully drawn down on my neck when I attempt to step over. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Then discuss it we shall. The USA has a quota system for immigration. In Bakke v. Regents no less than SCOTUS found that quota's are discrimination. Ergo the US Federal Government is a bigot. It isn't that much of a stretch to claim that those who support the USA quota system for immigration are also bigots. Observe that the 14th amendment only prohibits States from discrimination, not the Federal Government. Why is that? Should it be changed? What are legitimate reasons to deny entry? Past criminal record? Communicable disease? Not enough resources to stay off public assistance? Occupation? Skin color? Culture? Language? Religion? A small quota because "we don't like your people?" |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Like I said, my friend, why discuss the night if you are not allowed to call it dark? Because certain words are deemed inappropriate. Call it whatever you wish, but don't use the offensive words. I don't make the rules here, they have been laid out before me, and quite forcefully drawn down on my neck when I attempt to step over. Yeah "forcefully" because these forums are SO oppressive. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My principal point in the discussion has always been those who evade the issue and enter the county illegally. I want them OUT of our country and the borders enforced rigorously. Is it too much to expect of a nation to enforce it's borders?????? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
My principal point in the discussion has always been those who evade the issue and enter the county illegally. What does this have to do with using racially offensive words or your initial post that was removed? They are two completely different topics. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Is it too much to expect of a nation to enforce it's borders?????? Any government can only enforce laws which are workable. Try looking up prohibition. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My principal point in the discussion has always been those who evade the issue and enter the county illegally. I dunno....the two bits seem to be entwined these days. Due to the fact the a certain (expletive deleted) bunch seem to feel that there are no borders, and our country is free for the taking. Racially offensive......as in, we, the people, can no longer discuss those hwo we find offensive? There are no races, creeds, or religions that can be discussed without offending somebody? If true, you might as well knack off now. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
The USA lets in BY LAW over 2 million people per year. Thats more then all other Countries put together if I understand the point correctly. My source, Lou Dobbs has said this on both CNN & FOX. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The USA lets in BY LAW over 2 million people per year. Thats more then all other Countries put together if I understand the point correctly. Dammit..... Dammit. I have NEVER expressed a problem with LEGAL immigration to this country. My own Grandparents came here from Germany. And I am proud of my German ancestry. My one and only point has been about those entering and staying here ILLEGALLY. Get the freaking point right. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
My one and only point has been about those entering and staying here ILLEGALLY. Then you would have no problem of going back to the rules when your grand parents came, of simply showing up at the border and declaring yourself as wanting in, no restrictions on numbers. |
DesO Send message Joined: 2 Feb 12 Posts: 144 Credit: 2,624,617 RAC: 0 |
We are are all homo sapiens...light years away from some thing similar yet it seems incapable in the main of accepting each other and co-operaring in a kind way... what a paradox ! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19062 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The USA lets in BY LAW over 2 million people per year. Thats more then all other Countries put together if I understand the point correctly. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9288158/Fox-News-viewers-worst-informed-study-finds.html |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My one and only point has been about those entering and staying here ILLEGALLY. My grandparents immigrated in the legal manner...... Did all the paperwork, had a dollar in their pocket, spoke somewhat the King's English, and danced the dance. My grandpapa went to work in a shoe factory, Florsheim as I recall. And subsequentially earned a living for my Grandmother. And then, in Sheboygan Wisconsin, started to raise a family that included my father and my 3 uncles. In 1954, he was able to build the house that I am now living in and posting to you from. Yeah, I do know about LEGAL immigration. The Fox Valley and most of Wisconsin was built on LEGAL immigration. Our heritage is very wonderful because of it. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I dunno....the two bits seem to be entwined these days. Immigration and racism are not intertwined unless you hate all immigrants too. Racially offensive......as in, we, the people, can no longer discuss those hwo we find offensive? No, you can discuss freely. You don't have to use racially offensive words to get your point across. How many times do I have to state that? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
I dunno....the two bits seem to be entwined these days. I choose to use the factual words to express my opinions. I don't wish to couch my words in politically correct terms. Does that explain it? You should listen to a bit of Hal Holbrook eptitomizing Mark Twain. Another man not too shy of words. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
I dunno....the two bits seem to be entwined these days. How are racially offensive words "factual"? What does using racially offensive words have to do with facts at all? What "facts" are we discussing here? |
Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 3626 Credit: 37,520 RAC: 0 |
The USA lets in BY LAW over 2 million people per year. Thats more then all other Countries put together if I understand the point correctly. DANGIT!!! DANGIT.... ....I know that, it wasn't pointed at you! DANGIT! LOL! |
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