Mark, I have 3 P5Ks still running.
On one of them, 2 of the SATA ports failed and running on what is left.
Your board could be a similar thing, so try the disk on different ports.
If it's still wobbly, try with another disk?

It may be that retirement is looming...
I had to tone down the overclocking on my boards to maintain stability.

It was well known, that a batch of 500GByte Harddisks, were bad and
a very high failure-rate, had a few, 5 myself.
I used a 'kit', with an USB 3.0 connection and use a 1500GByte HDD, for back-
up's and also copies of photo, video and mp3 files.

(A bit) depending of the file size, the speed is about 20 -120MByte/sec.
Also notice a strange situation on my I7(CPU), 5870(2 x GPU),
although enough work, 2 WU's are runnig on 0.5 GPU, each, in stead of
2 per GPU, as set in app_info.xml file. 2nd GPU (Device 1), always
has a lesser load, compaired to the first?
I aso get the impression, the 0.05CPU to 'feed' the GPU, is too low on ATI
GPU's, as average it's correct, but during loading of the GPU, CPU
it takes 20-30%, per core.
And one GPU doesn't do anything, it pauzed a MB WU?!
Look for,(or create and edit) an cc_config.xml file, instucting to
use all GPU's, can be worthwhile?

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I've had no issue integrating SP3 or it wanting to be re downloaded through Win updates. To slipstream my CD's I use nLite Before you use nLite you need to copy your XP CD to a folder on your hard drive

I use WSUS anyway, so it is nice when the machine in question downloads 150MB of updates and maxes out 100mbit links.

When I ran update over my network I'm not sure what speed it was pulling. I use the onboard network 100MPS on my PC It was over 1GB of traffic transferred for 100+ updates using wsusoffline. On a slight side note Cosmic_Ocean do you use a 3rd party piece of software to tell what speed you network traffic is running at?

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I've had no issue integrating SP3 or it wanting to be re downloaded through Win updates. To slipstream my CD's I use nLite Before you use nLite you need to copy your XP CD to a folder on your hard drive

I use WSUS anyway, so it is nice when the machine in question downloads 150MB of updates and maxes out 100mbit links.

When I ran update over my network I'm not sure what speed it was pulling. I use the onboard network 100MPS on my PC It was over 1GB of traffic transferred for 100+ updates using wsusoffline. On a slight side note Cosmic_Ocean do you use a 3rd party piece of software to tell what speed you network traffic is running at?

I did use nLite a few times before. It ended up with weird results when adding the drivers in for hardware, but that was back in.. 2006 or so. I'm sure it has matured a bit since then. I normally just do the slipstreaming manually. You can take the offline installer for SP3 and run it in a CMD window with a certain switch (I forget which it is) and it will simply unpack rather than install.

For seeing the network traffic, I just use the networking tab on task manager. Change the columns to Utilization and bytes sent/ and received/interval. Update speed to high, and that means two updates/sec, so whatever the byte count is, double it for KB or MB/sec, and you have the added benefit of the utilization % to tell you what you're getting for that.

My WSUS server is only on 100mbit, but my machine is gigabit with 9KB jumbo frames. When I download updates, 9.99% is the utilization (~12.5MiB/sec).

For seeing the throughput that other machines are using, I don't monitor that. I'm sure if Cisco wanted to add that functionality to the webUI for my SLM2024 they could, but probably won't. I can see what the wifi traffic is using though, since I've put DD-WRT on the access point.

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record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)

LOL...
One step forward, two steps back.
I am going through the install/update process once again.

When I did the last one, I had 2 USB thumb drives plugged in.
Which are recognized as hard drives.

Which resulted in my XP install designating the Seagate HD as drive E.
Which crashes the Nvidia driver that I use, because it contains a bug that half way through tries to set up a temp file on drive C, even if you tell it to use E drive at the start.

Now I have a proper C drive, got XP installed yet again, the NV driver installed properly, and am doing the Windows Update dance.

I won't be up late enough to finish everything tonight yet.

But if I am not mistaken, to get Seti going again, I need to install my 6.10.58 and then overwrite the Boinc program and Boinc data folders with the ones I saved from the dying HD.
Correct?

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To make a minimal installation cd, with updates and drivers, for WinXP, especially unattended PC's, look for program called nLite.
If it is for Vista, then the program required is vLite.

At present AFAIK there isn't one for Win7.

They let you go beyond the normal MS limits and let you stop the installation of all those bits you do not need.

The simple answer to sliptreaming the SP:
"Windows XP x86 SP3 English.exe" /integrate:"D:\Windows XP Pro x86 SP2 (English)"
Where "D:\Windows XP Pro x86 SP2 (English)\" is the path to the root of the disc files you copied to your machine.

I like to use Pismo File Mount Audit Package and mount the ISO of the disc as writable. Then once you run the integration it is just a matter of unmounting and burning the new disc.

Also here are some instructions I had a link to for integrating and putting drivers in from the days of old.
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To--Slipstream-your-XP-installation

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All other rigs are shut down and it's still 84f in the crunching den.

Just out of curiosity...if you can afford running that many power-guzzling rigs, why can't you just get an AC unit for a price of one rig? That way you'd need to shut down only one rig and let others crunch cool.

Well, not exactly.
I have but one window in the house that can accept an AC unit. I have the largest one I could get that will run on the 120v branch circuit in the garage.
14,700BTU...
That equates to about 4,300 watts.
My top 2 rigs can each draw about 950w when crunching shorties.
The #2 rig has a refrigeration compressor cooling the CPU which draws around 500w. My #3 rig is at about 750w, my daily driver around 450w.

That's 3600 watts for 4 rigs, leaving 700 watts for the other 5 rigs.
Even assuming the AC would always run at peak efficiency, which drops as the ambient goes up, you can easily see why the AC cannot possibly cope with the heat output of the farm. In addition, the AC is at one end of the house, and the crunching den is at the other, so I have to use booster fans to get the cool air going one way and the hot air back to the AC.

And obviously, I would be paying the electric bill to generate the heat, and just as much to run the AC to get rid of it.
So, in a nutshell, I shall run what I can cooling with ambient air, and if temps outside go much over 85f, the rigs go down and the AC goes on to keep myself and the kitties in acceptable comfort.

Solar panels. If you can't afford the cost of them, there's a company (it was featured on Ask This Old House a few weeks ago) that will install them at no cost to you. Of course, you don't get the power for free that way, but it is discounted to you.

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All other rigs are shut down and it's still 84f in the crunching den.

Just out of curiosity...if you can afford running that many power-guzzling rigs, why can't you just get an AC unit for a price of one rig? That way you'd need to shut down only one rig and let others crunch cool.

Well, not exactly.
I have but one window in the house that can accept an AC unit. I have the largest one I could get that will run on the 120v branch circuit in the garage.
14,700BTU...
That equates to about 4,300 watts.
My top 2 rigs can each draw about 950w when crunching shorties.
The #2 rig has a refrigeration compressor cooling the CPU which draws around 500w. My #3 rig is at about 750w, my daily driver around 450w.

That's 3600 watts for 4 rigs, leaving 700 watts for the other 5 rigs.
Even assuming the AC would always run at peak efficiency, which drops as the ambient goes up, you can easily see why the AC cannot possibly cope with the heat output of the farm. In addition, the AC is at one end of the house, and the crunching den is at the other, so I have to use booster fans to get the cool air going one way and the hot air back to the AC.

And obviously, I would be paying the electric bill to generate the heat, and just as much to run the AC to get rid of it.
So, in a nutshell, I shall run what I can cooling with ambient air, and if temps outside go much over 85f, the rigs go down and the AC goes on to keep myself and the kitties in acceptable comfort.

Solar panels. If you can't afford the cost of them, there's a company (it was featured on Ask This Old House a few weeks ago) that will install them at no cost to you. Of course, you don't get the power for free that way, but it is discounted to you.

There are also companies that basically lease your roof space for solar panels. They install/own the panels. Depending on the company you either get a check for a percent of the power they generate or a reduction on your bill.

Perhaps something like that would work for the kitty crunching lounge. Perhaps making adding another smaller A/C viable in the money department. Which might allow the rigs to run when it gets in the low 90's or something of that nature.

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But if I am not mistaken, to get Seti going again, I need to install my 6.10.58 and then overwrite the Boinc program and Boinc data folders with the ones I saved from the dying HD.
Correct?

OK...LOL.
I'll think about solar panels and slipstreaming later.

But back to the crux of the matter...
I have not tried to save an existing Boinc installation before.
Is this what I have to do?

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But if I am not mistaken, to get Seti going again, I need to install my 6.10.58 and then overwrite the Boinc program and Boinc data folders with the ones I saved from the dying HD.
Correct?

OK...LOL.
I'll think about solar panels and slipstreaming later.

But back to the crux of the matter...
I have not tried to save an existing Boinc installation before.
Is this what I have to do?

Other way around. Plonk the copy of the data folder in an accessible place, and point the Boinc installer to it as the Data folder.

jason

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But if I am not mistaken, to get Seti going again, I need to install my 6.10.58 and then overwrite the Boinc program and Boinc data folders with the ones I saved from the dying HD.
Correct?

OK...LOL.
I'll think about solar panels and slipstreaming later.

But back to the crux of the matter...
I have not tried to save an existing Boinc installation before.
Is this what I have to do?

I would think you would only need to restore your data folder, but if you have other stuff in your program folder restoring it won't hurt.

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[off topic]

*runs in SCREAMING and waving arms*
Wingy-Dingys!
*runs back out the door*
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ok proceed.

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Well...it's running. And in the nick of time. Doing tasks with a deadline of tonight.

Still a couple of hitches to work out.
Boinc is only using 1 GPU because Windows won't start the second one. GPUZ sees it, but.......
And there's a little update I have to find again for .NET so I can run a modified Boinc manager. I installed what I thought was the latest version (4, 4 extended), but no go yet.

Gotta run off to work now, hopefully it can crunch up the cached WUs due tonight before they expire.

Many thanks to everybody who offered tips and advice.

Meow meow meow.

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Well...it's running. And in the nick of time. Doing tasks with a deadline of tonight.

Still a couple of hitches to work out.
Boinc is only using 1 GPU because Windows won't start the second one. GPUZ sees it, but.......
And there's a little update I have to find again for .NET so I can run a modified Boinc manager. I installed what I thought was the latest version (4, 4 extended), but no go yet.

Gotta run off to work now, hopefully it can crunch up the cached WUs due tonight before they expire.

Many thanks to everybody who offered tips and advice.

Meow meow meow.

Later versions of .NET don't supersede earlier versions. If you have something that says it requires 3.5 or 2.0 or whatever of .NET then that is what you need to install. All versions of .NET can co-exist on the same system. I just install them all.

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Well...it's running. And in the nick of time. Doing tasks with a deadline of tonight.

Still a couple of hitches to work out.
Boinc is only using 1 GPU because Windows won't start the second one. GPUZ sees it, but.......
And there's a little update I have to find again for .NET so I can run a modified Boinc manager. I installed what I thought was the latest version (4, 4 extended), but no go yet.

Gotta run off to work now, hopefully it can crunch up the cached WUs due tonight before they expire.

Many thanks to everybody who offered tips and advice.

Meow meow meow.

Later versions of .NET don't supersede earlier versions. If you have something that says it requires 3.5 or 2.0 or whatever of .NET then that is what you need to install. All versions of .NET can co-exist on the same system. I just install them all.

Previous installers for .net were cumulative up to 3.5 SP1 if you get the full install package. The 4.0, and newer, installer packages do not include older framework. If he was grabbing then through windows update then he is probably OK. IIRC it only presents you the upgrade to the next version of .net framework from where you are at.

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Dang, sounds like someone needs to get a swamp cooler for the garage(IE server rooms), a shipment of new parts, a couple of thumb drives with disk images on them, and some redundant power supplies, not to mention a working backup server and a host of ups units.....oh then you have msattler's problems. lol, glad you got her back!

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Dang, sounds like someone needs to get a swamp cooler for the garage(IE server rooms), a shipment of new parts, a couple of thumb drives with disk images on them, and some redundant power supplies, not to mention a working backup server and a host of ups units.....oh then you have msattler's problems. lol, glad you got her back!

Swamp coolers only work well down here in the southeast though.

It is currently 95F outside and 80F in the bedroom which also houses my computers.

There is a window AC unit in here and a swamp cooler on the other end of the house.

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Dang, sounds like someone needs to get a swamp cooler for the garage(IE server rooms), a shipment of new parts, a couple of thumb drives with disk images on them, and some redundant power supplies, not to mention a working backup server and a host of ups units.....oh then you have msattler's problems. lol, glad you got her back!

Swamp coolers only work well down here in the southeast though.

It is currently 95F outside and 80F in the bedroom which also houses my computers.

There is a window AC unit in here and a swamp cooler on the other end of the house.

Ouch, that's warm. My house at lunch was in the mid 70's and the 'puter room was sitting at 77 with the house conditioner and the window unit on. So not too bad considering the upstairs where all this is at normally gets much warmer. Then again the Alabama summer hasn't really started yet.

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Perhaps some homemade geothermal cooling would be in order. Where you bury a tank, or pipes, in the ground at the appropriate dept for your region where it remains cool. Then plum it inside through a radiator to transfer the heat out, or cool in depending on your viewpoint.

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