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Message 1233165 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 1:37:59 UTC

The HD in my old C2D rig has been flaky for some time, but it was limping along OK until about a week ago. Then would hardly ever boot again.

After about 15 tries tonight, I got it running long enough to copy the Boinc program and Boinc data folders to a USB thumb drive.

I'm gonna try to load a new OS on a different HD and hopefully be able to reinsert the original folder data into the new Boinc installation and carry on.

Wish me luck.
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Message 1233202 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 3:04:27 UTC - in response to Message 1233165.  

my HDD failed earlier this week. I was able to get my bBOINC files but it appears some had become corrupted as the drive was failing. I got quite a few bad WU's. I blame the corruption but it may have also been from running without the proper drivers installed


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Message 1233205 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 3:11:22 UTC - in response to Message 1233202.  

my HDD failed earlier this week. I was able to get my bBOINC files but it appears some had become corrupted as the drive was failing. I got quite a few bad WU's. I blame the corruption but it may have also been from running without the proper drivers installed

Thingys not going so well here.
I have tried to do a new XP installation on 2 used HDs, and it failed to format either.
Starting to wonder if the mobo has finally gone south.

I do have a brand new Seagate server drive that I shall try if another attempt fails.

Sheesh. Poor gurl has only been crunching it's brains out for 5 years.....
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Message 1233213 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 3:35:32 UTC - in response to Message 1233205.  

my HDD failed earlier this week. I was able to get my bBOINC files but it appears some had become corrupted as the drive was failing. I got quite a few bad WU's. I blame the corruption but it may have also been from running without the proper drivers installed

Thingys not going so well here.
I have tried to do a new XP installation on 2 used HDs, and it failed to format either.
Starting to wonder if the mobo has finally gone south.

I do have a brand new Seagate server drive that I shall try if another attempt fails.

Sheesh. Poor gurl has only been crunching it's brains out for 5 years.....


Visual inspection of mainboard and power supply capacitors? 5 years of continuous operation under load is prime time for cap failure & magic smoke release.
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Message 1233214 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 3:36:54 UTC - in response to Message 1233213.  

my HDD failed earlier this week. I was able to get my bBOINC files but it appears some had become corrupted as the drive was failing. I got quite a few bad WU's. I blame the corruption but it may have also been from running without the proper drivers installed

Thingys not going so well here.
I have tried to do a new XP installation on 2 used HDs, and it failed to format either.
Starting to wonder if the mobo has finally gone south.

I do have a brand new Seagate server drive that I shall try if another attempt fails.

Sheesh. Poor gurl has only been crunching it's brains out for 5 years.....


Visual inspection of mainboard and power supply capacitors? 5 years of continuous operation under load is prime time for cap failure & magic smoke release.

Well......jury is still out.
I opted for a quick NTFS format instead of the full one, and it took off.
So, I am now rebooting to finalize install.

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Message 1233273 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 5:56:48 UTC

Good luck my friend. Hopefully you reach a resolution with as less pain as possible. Nothing worse than "stupid" problems without a good amount of hardware for backup.
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Message 1233279 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 6:03:21 UTC - in response to Message 1233273.  

Good luck my friend. Hopefully you reach a resolution with as less pain as possible. Nothing worse than "stupid" problems without a good amount of hardware for backup.

Did not do so well tonight.....
Uhh......if you do not have a driver for the Marvell internet thingy, how do you get one.......LOL.

I must have a disc with one here.

It was a humorous conunndrum.....(sp).......
How do you get there from here?

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Message 1233305 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 6:53:28 UTC - in response to Message 1233279.  

Good luck my friend. Hopefully you reach a resolution with as less pain as possible. Nothing worse than "stupid" problems without a good amount of hardware for backup.

Did not do so well tonight.....
Uhh......if you do not have a driver for the Marvell internet thingy, how do you get one.......LOL.

I must have a disc with one here.

It was a humorous conunndrum.....(sp).......
How do you get there from here?


Download on another machine, burn to CDRW, sneakernet to other machine and install.

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Message 1233307 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 7:00:49 UTC - in response to Message 1233305.  
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Good luck my friend. Hopefully you reach a resolution with as less pain as possible. Nothing worse than "stupid" problems without a good amount of hardware for backup.

Did not do so well tonight.....
Uhh......if you do not have a driver for the Marvell internet thingy, how do you get one.......LOL.

I must have a disc with one here.

It was a humorous conunndrum.....(sp).......
How do you get there from here?


Download on another machine, burn to CDRW, sneakernet to other machine and install.

Soon to bed with the kitties tonight....
Must have the simple file on another rig........
Phhhhhht. It seems to have gone.....
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Message 1233387 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 12:36:01 UTC

use nLite to add needed RAID/SATA/Network drivers to the XP Install CD image and burn yourself a new install CD.
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Message 1233473 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 15:30:06 UTC - in response to Message 1233214.  


Well......jury is still out.
I opted for a quick NTFS format instead of the full one, and it took off.
So, I am now rebooting to finalize install.


I had that happen on a Seagate drive the other day. I did it the long way and it failed. I did it again, the long way, and it failed. I told it to do a "quick" and I had a formatted usable drive in a couple of seconds.

Then I checked the drive (the long way) and it checked-out fine.

Weird.
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Message 1233478 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 15:44:46 UTC

Marvell Yukon drivers are here: http://www.marvell.com/support/downloads/search.do Download it on a machine that works, put it on a flash drive or CD+RW (instead of wasting a whole CD-R, if you have an RW of course), then install that way.
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Message 1233508 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 16:53:35 UTC - in response to Message 1233473.  
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Well......jury is still out.
I opted for a quick NTFS format instead of the full one, and it took off.
So, I am now rebooting to finalize install.


I had that happen on a Seagate drive the other day. I did it the long way and it failed. I did it again, the long way, and it failed. I told it to do a "quick" and I had a formatted usable drive in a couple of seconds.

Then I checked the drive (the long way) and it checked-out fine.

Weird.

Yes, weird.
The Seagate that I thought was trashed might turn out to be usable on another rig after all.
And the other drive is a Maxtor, did the same thingy, so it's nothing to do with Seagate.

The upgrade rig is now waiting for the Marvell drivers for me to proceed.
But I might have to go over and do some yard work for Lori.....as she is unable herself, you see.
Thanks in advance for the link, Cosmic.

I know I have a mobo CD or two around her with it on too, or lurking in the temp file on one of my rigs.
I just ran out of time and patience last night....LOL.

And today it's too warm in here to run much other than the Frozen One.
All other rigs are shut down and it's still 84f in the crunching den.
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Message 1233555 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 18:40:43 UTC - in response to Message 1233508.  
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All other rigs are shut down and it's still 84f in the crunching den.

Just out of curiosity...if you can afford running that many power-guzzling rigs, why can't you just get an AC unit for a price of one rig? That way you'd need to shut down only one rig and let others crunch cool.
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Message 1233573 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 19:32:53 UTC
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Hi Mark!

Are you overclocking?

If you are indeed doing so you probably risk breaking things even more.
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Message 1233666 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 22:44:59 UTC - in response to Message 1233555.  

All other rigs are shut down and it's still 84f in the crunching den.

Just out of curiosity...if you can afford running that many power-guzzling rigs, why can't you just get an AC unit for a price of one rig? That way you'd need to shut down only one rig and let others crunch cool.

Well, not exactly.
I have but one window in the house that can accept an AC unit. I have the largest one I could get that will run on the 120v branch circuit in the garage.
14,700BTU...
That equates to about 4,300 watts.
My top 2 rigs can each draw about 950w when crunching shorties.
The #2 rig has a refrigeration compressor cooling the CPU which draws around 500w. My #3 rig is at about 750w, my daily driver around 450w.

That's 3600 watts for 4 rigs, leaving 700 watts for the other 5 rigs.
Even assuming the AC would always run at peak efficiency, which drops as the ambient goes up, you can easily see why the AC cannot possibly cope with the heat output of the farm. In addition, the AC is at one end of the house, and the crunching den is at the other, so I have to use booster fans to get the cool air going one way and the hot air back to the AC.

And obviously, I would be paying the electric bill to generate the heat, and just as much to run the AC to get rid of it.
So, in a nutshell, I shall run what I can cooling with ambient air, and if temps outside go much over 85f, the rigs go down and the AC goes on to keep myself and the kitties in acceptable comfort.
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Message 1233679 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 23:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 1233666.  

So, in a nutshell, I shall run what I can cooling with ambient air, and if temps outside go much over 85f, the rigs go down and the AC goes on to keep myself and the kitties in acceptable comfort.

And with the money you are going to save keeping them off you'll be able to upgrade some of the rigs to the latest low-power high-speed "toys" instead of "ruining" the planet with more heat... LOL

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Message 1233680 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 23:11:31 UTC - in response to Message 1233478.  

Marvell Yukon drivers are here: http://www.marvell.com/support/downloads/search.do Download it on a machine that works, put it on a flash drive or CD+RW (instead of wasting a whole CD-R, if you have an RW of course), then install that way.

LOL....
I have the file right here on my daily driver. Of course, last night I was looking for something with Marvell or Miniport in the name, not setup_v11.45.4.3.....

Thanks again.
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Message 1233681 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 23:12:03 UTC - in response to Message 1233679.  

So, in a nutshell, I shall run what I can cooling with ambient air, and if temps outside go much over 85f, the rigs go down and the AC goes on to keep myself and the kitties in acceptable comfort.

And with the money you are going to save keeping them off you'll be able to upgrade some of the rigs to the latest low-power high-speed "toys" instead of "ruining" the planet with more heat... LOL

I would dearly love to......
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Message 1233696 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 23:33:09 UTC

i say run some dryer ducting from the back of the computers to a exaust vent or something and add a fan that can pull enough air to not let the heat build at the computers .. so that it leaves the house like a real dryer does
no need to cool the air just remove it from the aera

can we see some pics of the computer setups
then we can give some more sugestions
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