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Message 1232786 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 16:04:54 UTC
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For those who had no way of knowing why Seti has been down, please read Matt's news post on the subject.
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Message 1232798 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 16:14:58 UTC

At least the news was out there as both Lunatics and my site had threads going on the subject.

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Message 1232802 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 16:16:54 UTC
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Berkeley.edu have been posting regular updates on their service unplanned outage page. - http://ucbsystems.org/category/active/unscheduled-outage/

Now its aching finger time lol
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Message 1232838 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 16:58:05 UTC - in response to Message 1232795.  
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... PS. What kind of a ... unserious power company would take 2 full days and nights to repair a cable at one of the largest universities on this planet? ...


Sounds like all some poor two techs/engineers have got sore fingers from pulling up a mile of old manhole covers to peer down to smell for smoke...

I hope someone explained to them the technique of bisection (binary chop) to (quickly) zero in on the faulty section of cable...


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Message 1232857 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 17:26:52 UTC - in response to Message 1232798.  

At least the news was out there as both Lunatics and my site had threads going on the subject.

That's where all of you were hiding... ;-)

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Message 1232867 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 17:37:47 UTC - in response to Message 1232802.  

Berkeley.edu have been posting regular updates on their service unplanned outage page. - http://ucbsystems.org/category/active/unscheduled-outage/

Now its aching finger time lol

There now it's an active link.
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Message 1232869 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 17:42:16 UTC - in response to Message 1232795.  

PS. What kind of a crappy unserious power company would take 2 full days and nights to repair a cable at one of the largest universities on this planet? PG&E should be mailbombed for such a terrible service.

Quite agree with that, I did some work for one of the UK's electricity supply companies during the 90's and if someone had to lift more that one manhole cover to locate the fault. Then the operator of the test equipment needed retraining, or sacking.

It surprises me that for all it's high tech the US often seems to be lagging in actually using or implimenting it.
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Message 1232872 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 17:44:03 UTC - in response to Message 1232805.  

Yeah, and I followed it on the University pages too. Started looking at Berkeleys pages as soon as I realized that something was wrong, and found their IST Service Status page.


Likewise. I thought it serious enough to start exploring round for news ;).

Plenty of cache.
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Message 1232873 - Posted: 18 May 2012, 17:44:30 UTC - in response to Message 1232786.  

I am just pleased that the clever guys at SETI used their psychic powers to remove all limits just before the power outage. My 4 machines only got through about 10% of their stash during the outage.

Outage what outage?
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Message 1233225 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 4:20:40 UTC - in response to Message 1232869.  

PS. What kind of a crappy unserious power company would take 2 full days and nights to repair a cable at one of the largest universities on this planet? PG&E should be mailbombed for such a terrible service.

Quite agree with that, I did some work for one of the UK's electricity supply companies during the 90's and if someone had to lift more that one manhole cover to locate the fault. Then the operator of the test equipment needed retraining, or sacking.

It surprises me that for all it's high tech the US often seems to be lagging in actually using or implimenting it.

There seems to be a question of whether it was PG&E infrastructure that was to blame, or cables on Berkeley's side of things.
Mention was made at one point that campus personnel were involved in the search for the failure point.

I don't think that would have been the case if it was strictly PG&E's responsibility.


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Message 1233271 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 5:54:49 UTC

After all is said and done I just knew they were going to come back and tell us some stuff got fried. Luckily that didn't happen.
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Message 1233351 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 10:53:15 UTC

We seem to be up & working very quickly, so I for one can 'feel' the new servers working. Just wanting to get things reported now.
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Message 1235069 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 14:40:34 UTC - in response to Message 1233225.  

PS. What kind of a crappy unserious power company would take 2 full days and nights to repair a cable at one of the largest universities on this planet? PG&E should be mailbombed for such a terrible service.

Quite agree with that, I did some work for one of the UK's electricity supply companies during the 90's and if someone had to lift more that one manhole cover to locate the fault. Then the operator of the test equipment needed retraining, or sacking.

It surprises me that for all it's high tech the US often seems to be lagging in actually using or implimenting it.

The US is more interested in raising corporate profits and lowering corporate and personal taxes than in maintaining infrastructure. As a result, huge amounts of it are hanging on by threads, and once in a while one of those threads breaks. (There is also the problem of people stealing parts of infrastructure. One city's transit agency recently discovered someone had stolen miles of a copper conductor that was in place to bleed off the stray current escaping from the rails so it wouldn't deteriorate the rebar in the concrete supports. A tourist railroad in New Jersey won't be able to operate part of its season this year because someone stole tie plates and spikes from a long stretch of track. (There were arrests in that case, including the scrap dealer who bought the stuff.))

There seems to be a question of whether it was PG&E infrastructure that was to blame, or cables on Berkeley's side of things.
Mention was made at one point that campus personnel were involved in the search for the failure point.

I don't think that would have been the case if it was strictly PG&E's responsibility.

I don't know how good PG&E is about maintaining infrastructure, but around here it wouldn't at all surprise me if such a failure had been Commonwealth Edison's fault. (My town runs its own electric utility and has done a lot of upgrading in the last few years, so even with overhead lines outages are much less frequent than they used to be. We're also installing smart meters, over the objections of a few idiots who think the tiny radio transmissions from them will cause cancer.)

Otoh, when my workplace suffered a failure last fall, it did turn out the bad components were on our side of the transformer. We had to run for four days on a semi truck full of CAT-powered generator, at 90 gallons of diesel per hour (IIRC).

(Just my luck, I had taken a sick day to go to a funeral and not only missed the fun but also wasted a sick day on a day when everyone was sent home after three hours anyway.)

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Message 1235077 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 15:03:24 UTC - in response to Message 1235069.  


The US is more interested in raising corporate profits and lowering corporate and personal taxes than in maintaining infrastructure.


Might want to look here; middle of the page:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/feb/21/corporation-tax-rates-world

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Message 1235080 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 15:24:06 UTC

I usually find power companies are pretty interested in maintaining their equipment. As when your power goes out they are actually loosing money. Unlike others such as phone or cable service.

With the failure of the current buried cable. I would hope that whomever is responsible for the run would plan to replace it before another failure occurs.

Over the past few years my local power company has been adding or replacing all of their underground cable runs to the pad transformers. It could have something to do with all of the solar panels they have been putting on the poles, but since they have done so the power outages and brownouts that were very common in this area have stopped.
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Message 1235128 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 20:56:09 UTC

Just to put that company into perspective. Last April we had a tornado outbreak here sending most if not all of Northern Alabama into the dark when the tornados took out the main lines coming from the nuclear power plant. We had power restored in my city 3 days later. So don't sum up the entire US and their power companies by this....most of this 3 days was probably determining whose lines it was.
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