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Message 1232136 - Posted: 14 May 2012, 19:50:05 UTC

Let's build the Enterprise! Star Trek fan unveils bold plan to make Captain Kirk's space ship within 20 years

Engineer says the Enterprise could be built with today's technology
He hopes to inspire 'The Next Generation' with his plans to visit Mars

By Eddie Wrenn

PUBLISHED: 11:47 GMT, 14 May 2012 | UPDATED: 13:23 GMT, 14 May 2012


Read more here--->Daily Mail.co.uk
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Message 1232151 - Posted: 14 May 2012, 20:30:45 UTC

Somebody must be breaking into Scotty's stash of exotic whiskey. So this fellow figured out how to make warp engines? Is his name Zephram Cochrane?
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Message 1232161 - Posted: 14 May 2012, 20:49:18 UTC

Nah, remember the episode where Kirk transported into a replica and they tricked him into giving up his DNA?

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Message 1232168 - Posted: 14 May 2012, 20:59:45 UTC

Poor old Dan...think he should make sure his server is up to speed 1st....:)

It's down at the moment. Also. he'd better start building the space dock 1st.
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Message 1232600 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 21:57:38 UTC

Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors.
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Message 1232672 - Posted: 15 May 2012, 23:57:35 UTC

I know alot is missing and possibly not possible for a long while but lets get the shell together and get those girls in and on post tight Confedearation Milatery uniforms...so say we all
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Message 1233193 - Posted: 19 May 2012, 2:45:32 UTC

I know I would rather see the Enterprise built than another Titannic lol
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Message 1234513 - Posted: 21 May 2012, 13:51:20 UTC - in response to Message 1233957.  

but it would all still be Made in China.
They better have a net big enough to catch all the pieces when they fall apart xD
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Message 1234915 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 5:19:43 UTC - in response to Message 1232136.  

Actually warp engines don't require power they require attention geometry details...

I recommend a starter frame of a submarine connected to two destroyers for stress testing in the ocean of connecting the warp boundary pontoons with with tubes from nose of destroyers to the submarine below...

A circular hover-platform of some kind would serve well as the saucer section attached with a tube below to the nose of the submarine...

We have plenty of extra dead shpis laying around in graveyards... I agree, I have no idea what the human race is waiting for to build something interesting... But anyway what do I know, I am just another dumb drunken Scotsman pretending reality means something...


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Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood.
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Message 1234917 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 5:21:50 UTC - in response to Message 1232672.  

With Rodin Coil style geometric winding patterns we are closer than we think... Stable controlled spinning magnetic fields... What a concept...
Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood.
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Message 1234920 - Posted: 22 May 2012, 5:25:48 UTC

And the name on the piece of paper claiming I was alive at some point is Paul Garry McKirdy Jr., but then that was too just another piece of paper...

If anyone would like more of the details I have already drawn up feel free to message me privately.

Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood.
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Message 1236242 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 3:09:51 UTC - in response to Message 1232600.  

Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors.

No life support either, bottled air only lasts so long and subs can surface to get fresh air, in space there is no air. Plus the closest to impulse engines are ion engines and their pretty new, no idea how many would be needed, plus Ya need a way to break orbit.
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Message 1236264 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 4:38:59 UTC

Perpetual motion, oh now I can see how it all works. He should have mentioned that right off, so I could have better used my time by going to the bathroom or whatever.
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Message 1236561 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 15:43:41 UTC - in response to Message 1236242.  

Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors.

No life support either, bottled air only lasts so long and subs can surface to get fresh air, in space there is no air. Plus the closest to impulse engines are ion engines and their pretty new, no idea how many would be needed, plus Ya need a way to break orbit.

All they need is water for the creating of O2 and H2 which will fuel hydrogen burning power plants much like the space shuttle and ISS. They suggest a fairly robust Ion Drive that I consider the same as the Enterprise's Impulse drive.

The planned mission would only take 3 months to arrive at Mars with this drive as opposed to 9 months with gravity assist alone.


We shuttle food and supplies to the space station routinely. How much more difficult would it be to launch supplies in advance of the ships launch and have it catch up to the supplies enroute much like a pacman game


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Message 1236572 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 15:54:22 UTC - in response to Message 1236561.  

Besides warp engines, there are other big problems. One is gravity plating. Another is replicators. There are no force fields. No phasers. No sensors.

No life support either, bottled air only lasts so long and subs can surface to get fresh air, in space there is no air. Plus the closest to impulse engines are ion engines and their pretty new, no idea how many would be needed, plus Ya need a way to break orbit.

All they need is water for the creating of O2 and H2 which will fuel hydrogen burning power plants much like the space shuttle and ISS. They suggest a fairly robust Ion Drive that I consider the same as the Enterprise's Impulse drive.

The planned mission would only take 3 months to arrive at Mars with this drive as opposed to 9 months with gravity assist alone.


We shuttle food and supplies to the space station routinely. How much more difficult would it be to launch supplies in advance of the ships launch and have it catch up to the supplies enroute much like a pacman game

Yeah, it's possible, but then there is the very real danger of cosmic rays, gamma rays, radiation and x-rays, good enough to kill one before one would/could even arrive at Mars or back to Earth, Shielding is needed, Here We have a few miles of atmosphere and one heck of a magnetic field, So It would need a Nuclear power plant to power a strong enough field, one that would act like the one on Earth does and not like an electro magnet does and I'm not sure how to do that.
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Message 1236574 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 15:57:58 UTC - in response to Message 1236572.  
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Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmoshpere and catch most of the radiation.

Better yet store the onboard water in a shell around the ship. As I recall from military training water is a great dampener of radiation


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Message 1236581 - Posted: 25 May 2012, 16:06:17 UTC - in response to Message 1236578.  

Yeah, it's possible, but then there is the very real danger of cosmic rays, gamma rays, radiation and x-rays,

Don't forget Yobba rays! :-))

Yabba, dabba, do! ;)
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Message 1237372 - Posted: 26 May 2012, 15:11:50 UTC - in response to Message 1236574.  

Yes it is, ex Naval nuclear propulsion operator, however it does not shield gamma of other types. Though anything density or local that increases time distance and shielding is beneficial.
Electrons started spinning, electrons are still spinning and electrons will be spinning tomorrow to the best of our knowledge therefore either change in acceleration is persistent or friction is fractally less than understood.
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Message 1237426 - Posted: 26 May 2012, 17:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1236574.  

Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmosphere and catch most of the radiation.

Better yet store the onboard water in a shell around the ship. As I recall from military training water is a great dampener of radiation

Water though has to be kept from Freezing, as the temps in space are more extreme than here on Earth, and the farther away from the suns warmth, the closer to absolute zero the temp can get, water expands when frozen too and frozen water isn't too usable for some tasks.
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Message 1237448 - Posted: 26 May 2012, 17:38:33 UTC - in response to Message 1237426.  

Like i proposed before have a ozone layer in the shell of the ship. This would simulate the earths upper atmosphere and catch most of the radiation.

Better yet store the onboard water in a shell around the ship. As I recall from military training water is a great dampener of radiation

Water though has to be kept from Freezing, as the temps in space are more extreme than here on Earth, and the farther away from the suns warmth, the closer to absolute zero the temp can get, water expands when frozen too and frozen water isn't too usable for some tasks.

The ozone layer is a nice idea, however it would need to be tens of miles thick to do any good. Kind of makes the ship rather large I'd think.

Water is a excellent idea. We have to take it along anyway, so it can do double duty. I'd suspect we would have at least a double hull and perhaps a triple hull so micrometeorite damage could be contained and repaired. Putting the water next to the innermost hull would allow it to absorb some of the excess waste heat from the electronics, I doubt there would be need of heaters to keep it from freezing, more likely chillers to keep it cold.

The problem with a water jacket is that it can't 100% cover a space ship. There will be areas which won't have this protection. We can limit human exposure times in these spots, but once you have a hole there is always some angle that a particle can enter and reach any spot inside.

The item that will be needed is a large magnetic field around the ship. This will deflect the charged particles. Perhaps it would also allow them to be harvested along the way. But this still allows the uncharged particles and gamma radiation through.

All of this design talk is premature. We first need to send a few probes into interstellar space to measure the environment. If it turns out that it is too hostile for a man to be in a space suit doing an EVA to repair a hole in the hull, then it may turn out we can't leave the protection of Sol.

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