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Message 1231011 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 14:16:20 UTC

There are some tangible benefits to the Special Relationship between the UK and the USA, which is why it will continue whatever the politics of the day.

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Message 1231094 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 17:59:19 UTC

What's a year or two.....

......just confirms that one should take what these muppets say with "a pinch of salt".

Special Relationship is over, states MP's
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Message 1231097 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 18:05:33 UTC

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What's a year or two.....

Quite a lot actually when you have a totally different party and Prime minister in power!



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Message 1231102 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 18:16:06 UTC - in response to Message 1231097.

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What's a year or two.....

Quite a lot actually when you have a totally different party and Prime minister in power!




So you believe that politicians can be trusted then......
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Message 1231114 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 18:48:44 UTC

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Message 1231185 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 20:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 1231102.

So you believe that politicians can be trusted then......

Of course they can. They can be trusted to accept bribes, have slush funds, lie, cheat and steal, they can also be trusted to issue bribes to prosecutors, judges and juries, arrange intimidation of whistle blowers ...

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Message 1231191 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 20:54:32 UTC

Oi! Maybe in the US, not so much over the Pond!

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Message 1231223 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 21:42:08 UTC
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Whilst Britain continues to stand by it's word over any agreements made between
it and the USA then there will always be a Special Relationship. Especially
since it was pointed out by an American diplomat, shortly after Obama took office,
"The UK is the only country you can trust to keep to any agreements made with
us, and President Obama has "Now" been told this".
What does the UK gain from this Special Relationship, the same as America does,
a secure and hopefully never ending trusted friendship/relationship. Sometimes
one may have to give more to the friendship than the other one does but in the
end it will always balance itself out.
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Message 1231233 - Posted: 12 May 2012, 21:52:51 UTC - in response to Message 1231191.

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No need to, we all know that they're in bed with big business....now that's "Gay Marriages" made in Hell!
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Message 1231361 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 1:44:57 UTC
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Message 1231398 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 3:03:32 UTC

Australia also supposedly has a "Special Relationship" with the U.S. and I'd like to know what we get out of it.

Like the UK we fight their wars, host their troops (2,500 Marines are to be stationed near Darwin) and spy bases (at least 3) and provide logistic support for the US Navy and Air Force. The US tells our government (of any party) what to do and it tugs its forelock and says "Yes Massa".

Yet when Oz signed the "Free Trade Agreement" with the US, we were screwed. The US got open access to all our markets but the Australian Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme (which provided affordable drugs for all) was destroyed so the US drug companies could make more money. Agricultural products, our main export to the US, were specifically excluded and American companies were relieved of the requirement follow our foreign investment procedures. As a result result a number of big Australian companies are now US owned.

If there are any benefits in our "Special Relationship", they are reserved for a select few and delivered in brown paper bags.

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Message 1231435 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 5:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1231398.

But Terror A, you also have a very special relationship with China and the southwest China province around Perth. <smile>

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Message 1231512 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 12:05:26 UTC
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Message 1231529 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 12:54:26 UTC - in response to Message 1231435.

But Terror A, you also have a very special relationship with China and the southwest China province around Perth. <smile>

Actually the "special relationship" with China is located about 2,500kM North of Perth (Thats where the iron ore mines are) :-)

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Message 1231530 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 12:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 1231529.

Ah - OK -- so closer to Port Darwin then. Is it just the Chinese owned iron - or are other minerals owned by them?


But Terror A, you also have a very special relationship with China and the southwest China province around Perth. <smile>

Actually the "special relationship" with China is located about 2,500kM North of Perth (Thats where the iron ore mines are) :-)

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Message 1231533 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 13:09:44 UTC - in response to Message 1231512.

(BTW, be careful how you phrase things like, "we fight their wars." It would be more appropriate to say, "we joined their coalitions in small numbers like many other countries to help where we could fighting tyranny and injustices throughout the world caused by evil regimes and dictators.")

You forgot to add "that the US doesn't like" <smile ...with raised eyebrows>

I wish timing had allowed me to accept an assignment to Woomera. (I tried...)

If we ever meet I have some good stories to tell you about Woomera (but it would have to be in a secure room and I'd have frisk you for a "wire" first):-)

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Message 1231537 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 13:19:26 UTC - in response to Message 1231530.
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Ah - OK -- so closer to Port Darwin then. Is it just the Chinese owned iron - or are other minerals owned by them?

Naah not only iron, the Chinese are buying us out quicker than the Yanks are (afterall, they have a lot more money). They own coal mines, agricultural land, copper, aluminium and a lot of other resources as well. But at least they pay full price.

FIIK why our political classes are so willing to sell off the farm (brown paper bags is a big possibility). Aussies are becoming tenants in their own country.

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Message 1231565 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 14:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 1231537.

T.A. OK -- I thought it might be something like that. So when is the Australian government going to make Chinese a compulsory third language (after Australian and English)?

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Message 1231585 - Posted: 13 May 2012, 15:56:12 UTC - in response to Message 1231537.

Ah - OK -- so closer to Port Darwin then. Is it just the Chinese owned iron - or are other minerals owned by them?

Naah not only iron, the Chinese are buying us out quicker than the Yanks are (afterall, they have a lot more money). They own coal mines, agricultural land, copper, aluminium and a lot of other resources as well. But at least they pay full price.

FIIK why our political classes are so willing to sell off the farm (brown paper bags is a big possibility). Aussies are becoming tenants in their own country.

T.A.

It has been reported at times in various quarters that there is suspicion
regarding China's rush to buy-up so many different mining industries. It has
been muted that China has intention of controlling the price of various
different raw materials once they control enough mines. Only time can tell
if this is true, if so then the Specials Relationship is going to get even
more special.


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