I'll be damned to hell if that was sweet nectar! It was hog wash! Im leaving your table and I'll be damned if Im a coming back!

Ay-up! is ID going for a full blown flounce here, could be accused of being
a troll you know.

he'll change his mind when he sees the menu....

Roasted Yams, Roast Beef, Veg, washed down by several tankards of lager...

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I'll be damned to hell if that was sweet nectar! It was hog wash! Im leaving your table and I'll be damned if Im a coming back!

Ay-up! is ID going for a full blown flounce here, could be accused of being
a troll you know.

he'll change his mind when he sees the menu....

Roasted Yams, Roast Beef, Veg, washed down by several tankards of lager...

Now I wounder how hungry he is???

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

I'll be damned to hell if that was sweet nectar! It was hog wash! Im leaving your table and I'll be damned if Im a coming back!

Ay-up! is ID going for a full blown flounce here, could be accused of being
a troll you know.

he'll change his mind when he sees the menu....

Roasted Yams, Roast Beef, Veg, washed down by several tankards of lager...

You picking up the tab? [smile]

I'll be damned to hell if that was sweet nectar! It was hog wash! Im leaving your table and I'll be damned if Im a coming back!

Ay-up! is ID going for a full blown flounce here, could be accused of being
a troll you know.

he'll change his mind when he sees the menu....

Roasted Yams, Roast Beef, Veg, washed down by several tankards of lager...

You picking up the tab? [smile]

"If your Irish come into the parrrrrrler", if you've got any Irish in your blood,
ID, then you'll be in for a free night mate.

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The Kite Fliers

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Kite fliers: An imaginary club of solo members, those who don't yet
belong to a formal team so "fly their own kites" - as the saying goes.

I'll be damned to hell if that was sweet nectar! It was hog wash! Im leaving your table and I'll be damned if Im a coming back!

Ay-up! is ID going for a full blown flounce here, could be accused of being
a troll you know.

he'll change his mind when he sees the menu....

Roasted Yams, Roast Beef, Veg, washed down by several tankards of lager...

You picking up the tab? [smile]

"If your Irish come into the parrrrrrler", if you've got any Irish in your blood,
ID, then you'll be in for a free night mate.

Scottish, mostly. May I bring my T*t along? Some Irish. German and Italian.

There is some noted variability in the ability of flouncers to remain flounced. Speculation as to the flouncer's ability to 'stick the flounce' is a common topic, post-flounce. It is the totally unfair and unwarranted observation of this author--as implied by the above set of reasons for flounces--that flouncing is a particularly common maneuver amongst tone trolls.

Ho-ho, do flouncers and trolls have something in common?

Looks like tone trolls may be somewhat more likely to flounce than other posters.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

So was someone implying that I'm a troll?? Lol, if so, that someone better have a look at my posts and threads around here...

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#resist

Kafkatrapping!

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me@rescam.org

lol.bless you

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#resist

Indeed--Kafkatrapping

That's my hypocritical tendency. What's yours?

Posting after a flounce. I hate it when people do that.

OMG!!!!!! Look what the cat dragged in!!!

After over a year of having no one to blame, it looks like relief is FINALLY in sight.

Welcome home, friend.

ID -- be honest, you take your *interpretation* of the law to heart and readily dispute any other interpretation as simply being wrong. Let's face it, this form of intellectual absolutism is part of who you are.

I take the law to heart. I belong to the Constitution Party. The law is as the intent of the founders. It was agreed on by the 13, and every state thereafter. There is no wiggle room in federal law. If you want or need to wiggle you do that in the state.

It's cut an dry to me.

Flounce.. trying to add it to my vocabulary. We used to call those "rage quit".
Back in the day...

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Janice

The law is as the intent of the founders.

Intent can be found by reading the Federalist Papers.

ID, would the founders 1) Interpret their writings as you do today and/or 2) Write what they wrote then today?

I think not, but, it seems, in a manner consistent from your apparent mind set on other matters as well, you see the Federalist papers as Holy Writ, absolute and not subject to interpretation -- or at least not subject to any interpretation that is at variance with your interpretation.

ID, would the founders 1) Interpret their writings as you do today and/or 2) Write what they wrote then today?

I think not, but, it seems, in a manner consistent from your apparent mind set on other matters as well, you see the Federalist papers as Holy Writ, absolute and not subject to interpretation -- or at least not subject to any interpretation that is at variance with your interpretation.

Have you--yourself--read them papers yet?

I think not, you would have had your own question answered.

ID -- yes I have read them -- I have read them aware of their political context at the time. They are glorious writings and quite well attuned to their political context.

But you see, my concrete and absolutist interlocutor, times and political context change (something the founders were in fact quite aware of) and that intrusion of reality (which you appear to reject) results in what some (not you certainly) have phrased in describing our constitution as a 'living, breathing' document.

This difference of vantage point also manifests in your religious pronouncements. For you these are all absolute and concrete. For me any many of MY co-religionists, the Tenach is a living breathing body of work subject to many different interpretations.

In a modern, complex, compound world, there are certainly an intellectual class of people for whom absolute and concrete thinking provides an effective insulation from the outside world. That is ok for them, but when this class of people seeks to propagate their views as the only true faith (or political faith) an inevitable conflict arises.

In line with the OP, I am pretty far right but I have a hard time defending the death penalty. Maybe in extreme cases like high treason or desertion, but other than that is just seems senseless to me and it stands in contraction to my personal beliefs.