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Message 1251684 - Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 4:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 1251671.

ID, in order to appear literate using spell checker is a useful ally.
I will no longer attempt to chace anything,

You knew what I meant. My content of thought was there....

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Message 1252446 - Posted: 28 Jun 2012, 2:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1252429.

Jest print more money....... Yee haw.


If big money hadn't have gotten us into this mess, big bailouts would never have been needed.


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Message 1253840 - Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 20:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 1253552.

Mark, it is one of those 'look what I found' things. Faux news didn't think it was a tax either until Roberts told them it was.

But of course, the way some folks think is best to balance the budget:

1) Eliminate Medicaid
2) Privatize Medicare
3) Eliminate Duty of care if funds are not available
4) Bury the poor and elderly sooner
5) Social Security becomes solvent
6) The reduced cost to the government for health care, along with the
reduced cost to the states for health care and their pension plans balances government books all over the place.

It is called Republirationing. Those who can afford, get health care, those who can't afford health care get RepubliDeathPanelled. It would make Sara so happy.

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Message 1253842 - Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 20:38:59 UTC
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Message 1253853 - Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 21:22:22 UTC - in response to Message 1253842.

Boy, you're not happy with anything that happens, are you? Now you're saying the Affordable Healthcare Act is Republirationing? Maybe you need to set up an appointment with your doctor and tell him you need to reduce your psychotropic prescription.

He did not say that. He said Republirationing is what the Repubs want.
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Message 1253861 - Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 21:50:43 UTC - in response to Message 1253842.

Guy -- sorry, you misunderstood me (no surprise there) -- I'm suggesting that (when you are honest instead of sarcastic) you would rather see the sort of thing I outlined and THAT would be TeaPublicarationing.

I see that Dave figured that out.

Given that you have (in your Guy mode) made your position rather clear, when you post in your Guyopposite mode, it is rather clear as well.

Some might suggest the two posting modes reflect an internal conflict -- I don't see you as conflicted at all, you just see that Guyopposite mode as your mode of Teapublican humor.

Since folks who haven't seen your Guy honest mode might pop in over here, it is something that needs pointing out periodically when you post in sarcastic opposite mode.


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Message 1256242 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:05:25 UTC - in response to Message 1231817.

Democracy is not a good thing and you don't want it. The reason so many of us "right wing nut-jobs" argue what we do is to look out for YOU and our children and recent immigrants and the poor and the hungry and the diseased and the downtrodden and minorities, and...


No. The cry of the right is that the left is trying to "watch out for us"-not only in the wrong way, but that we should not be looked out for at all, because we're all big boys and girls.

The way things need to work, whether they do or not, is for the minority to be protected from the majority. It doesn't matter what side of any given argument you might be on.


Interesting. I'd always heard it went both ways: protect the minority from the majority AND the majority from the minority (a minority such as, say, King George III).
Otheriwse, why the bicameral representation?

The problem is that collectivist thinking is bad. It's always bad. It's always been bad. It's never, ever, ever worked-out well when it is codified and enforced. What we used to call being "Civic Minded" is turning into "central planning."


Heavy-handedness and government enforcement is totalitarianism, not collective thinking.

Take a plumber or an electrician or a CPA or a lawyer or the cleaners. If you make their work too hard on them and pay little enough, they will go away.


What a great idea. Which countries respect professors and pay them decently? I'll get my passport in order.

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Message 1256243 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:07:13 UTC - in response to Message 1253861.

Guy -- sorry, you misunderstood me (no surprise there) -- I'm suggesting that (when you are honest instead of sarcastic) you would rather see the sort of thing I outlined and THAT would be TeaPublicarationing.

I see that Dave figured that out.

Given that you have (in your Guy mode) made your position rather clear, when you post in your Guyopposite mode, it is rather clear as well.

Some might suggest the two posting modes reflect an internal conflict -- I don't see you as conflicted at all, you just see that Guyopposite mode as your mode of Teapublican humor.

Since folks who haven't seen your Guy honest mode might pop in over here, it is something that needs pointing out periodically when you post in sarcastic opposite mode.


I can guyhonestly say I have never seen this.
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Message 1256248 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:11:12 UTC - in response to Message 1233148.

The power and the money is so strong that they will violate their word to get it.


So, someone has lots of money.
Said someone is willing to spend a significant portion to get politicians to do things his or her way.
Now, if someone has lots of money, that puts them in some small percentage of the population?
Top 5%?
Dare I say it? The 1%ers?
And you think the Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street aren't ticked about some of the same things and will never come together?
Right ... .

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Message 1256255 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:22:17 UTC - in response to Message 1234942.

Half the problem is the government being in the pocket of big business. Unfortunately this is both sides of the [a]isle...

Hmmm, ExDave agreeing with Dena. But I'm sure she'll find a way to say they're not in any kind of agreement.

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Message 1256261 - Posted: 6 Jul 2012, 6:39:28 UTC - in response to Message 1237693.
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That being said the soviet system was not socialism.


You can't be saying this with a straight face, can you?


You can't be asking him this with a straight face, can you?

That was nothing more than a series of brutal dictators.


You haven't read The Communist Manifesto from Carl Marx, have you?


I have read Karl.
Bloody Revolution was supposed to come from the proles. It did not.
It came from people already doing reasonably well who wished to replace the dictators and be dictators themselves, thus what Marx envisioned as temporary totalinairism (sp?) after the revolution became instead decades of it.

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