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Message 1229351 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 2:10:19 UTC - in response to Message 1229186.  

maybe he's feels he has the right to impregnate anyone he wants


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Message 1229466 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 8:49:27 UTC
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By comparing presidents one might learn some stuffs:

last 2 republican cycles were interesting.
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Message 1229534 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 13:55:02 UTC
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For current case it is his predecessor set the irreversable course for several years so following electee looks like getting along with it. But if you see previous terms by democrats it is they are only trying to reduce the debt. Look at blue zones carefully, where those blue sections heading.

Last two red zones Reagan through BushII show clear debt trends.
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Message 1229551 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 15:28:37 UTC - in response to Message 1229485.  
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Looks like a moot point as to who wins the Whitehouse because the climate in congress seems headed towards partisanship. Just look at the latest race between a centrist Republican and a Teanderthal in Indiana.

I must have missed the part of the Constitution about insuring domestic tranquility and promoting the general welfare - of the 1%.

Besides the fact that Dullnando doesn't understand the meaning of socialism, let's use his uninformed definition. So, socialist or anarchist? I'd rather be a socialist - I like the idea of a functioning society. I'm honestly surprised at how many "Christians" become atheist as soon as money or society is mentioned. Paul Ryan might be a perfect example - purports to be Christian, yet espouses the views of Ayn Rand as reflected in his budget.
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Message 1229671 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 19:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 1229610.  

not even close to telling a story


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Message 1229721 - Posted: 9 May 2012, 21:24:53 UTC

I'm not anywhere near being a member of the top 1%, maybe somewhere near the bottom of the top 50% income wise but I would still rather live in the USA than most any place else. I am registered as a republican but I don't consider myself right wing (maybe I sit in the right side seats in the fuselage). There are several issues that I don't support the republican official stand on but the concept that they know what's best for everybody else has always been my greatest hangup with the dems, and their tendency toward creating a welfare state.
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Message 1229853 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 2:42:15 UTC - in response to Message 1229845.  
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I'm not anywhere near being a member of the top 1%, maybe somewhere near the bottom of the top 50% income wise but I would still rather live in the USA than most any place else. I am registered as a republican but I don't consider myself right wing (maybe I sit in the right side seats in the fuselage). There are several issues that I don't support the republican official stand on but the concept that they know what's best for everybody else has always been my greatest hangup with the dems, and their tendency toward creating a welfare state.


I'm with you Bob. I've been a few places around this little planet of ours and the US hasn't gone over the cliff yet. It's close, though. If it does go over the cliff, there are some alternatives I'd consider.

It makes sense there are only two parties. And I disagree with the republicans the least.

The primaries are this weekend here in Texas and I'm leaving everything blank except for US senator, state representative, and school board representative. All others I'm leaving blank. Judges, commissioners, ...doesn't matter. The republican candidate for the next presidential election has already been decided with shenanigans beginning in Iowa.

For the general election, here are my rules on how to select my candidates:

1) If there's one republican running unopposed, vote for him/her.
2) If there's one republican and one democrat, vote for the republican
3) If there are no republicans running, leave it blank
4) If there's more than one republican on the ballot, vote for the one who hasn't been in office yet (unless I become aware of a reason for the incumbent to remain or if I become aware of a reason the newbie shouldn't take that office)

The thing that annoys me the most (or makes me wonder if me bothering to vote makes any real difference...) is 1) an amazingly low voter turnout and 2) most voters who do vote show up at the polls completely uninformed, or completely misinformed.


It's amazing that the country still works with that mentality... A actually cancel you out so NYAHHHH!!!

Now more than ever its important to remember which party has forced its representatives and senators in DC to pledge no new taxes(for the wealthy). Well that's special. now that taxes are at a 60 year historic low its always good to dig in your heels.

How's that work? no new taxes and the only cost reductions considered are the ones the wealthy donors don't care about.
Question: what's it like being the patsy for the Republican party? Seriously? I assume you aren't worth a cool million and I'm willing to wager there are less than 2 here on the boards. That being said the republicans don't now, won't in the future, haven't in the past give a rats patoot about the poor or middle class let alone small business owners or you. A party whose last and current candidates own more homes than I do pairs of shoes.

I'm sorry I can't fathom how a multi million dollar company would be considered small.

Guess this is one area where I fail to see how Christian conservatives would consider being aparty to the nonsense.

Here's a few sweet lines I prefer from the bible.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Republicans demonstrate their desire to be kicked in the teeth time and again)

The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me. (Sooo you want to screw over jesus?)

I stand dumbfounded at a people who claim to be religious but ignore the basic tenets of the religion. Help the poor, you are your brothers keeper,

here's another fun one...He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. Think about that when you roll up into your evangelical super church that teaches you to feel good about being wealthy because you earned it because you worked hard. Oh and tip the preacher generously his mansion needs a new hot tub. Lets not forget the political messages like you'll burn in hell if you vote the wrong way. Really? time for me to find a new church.

Heck read the pages yourself here



http://bible.cc/proverbs/14-31.htm


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Message 1229881 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 4:05:02 UTC - in response to Message 1229853.  

It's amazing that the country still works with that mentality

I would take that as an objective demonstration that more government isn't required ...

I'm sorry I can't fathom how a multi million dollar company would be considered small.

<barbie>Math is hard<barbie>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
Exxon $486,429,000,000.00 vs. "multi million" $2,000,000.00 = 0.0004% and that isn't small to you. Okay. Maybe you should learn there is something called "micro".

Guess this is one area where I fail to see how Christian conservatives would consider being aparty to the nonsense.

Here's a few sweet lines I prefer from the bible.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (Republicans demonstrate their desire to be kicked in the teeth time and again)

Stick a gun in his face a rob him to give to the poor. Guess the poor want a gun in their face and be robbed to give to the rich. Makes perfect sense.

I stand dumbfounded at a people who claim to be religious but ignore the basic tenets of the religion. Help the poor, you are your brothers keeper,

Use the government as a charity. Whatever you do don't set up a foundation to aid the poor or give money to a registered charity. That money would be better spent on a welfare mama with her neighborhood's 20 kids she claims as hers.

here's another fun one...He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. Think about that when you roll up into your evangelical super church that teaches you to feel good about being wealthy because you earned it because you worked hard. Oh and tip the preacher generously his mansion needs a new hot tub.

Criminals exist. Chop their hands off when you find them.

Lets not forget the political messages like you'll burn in hell if you vote the wrong way. Really? time for me to find a new church.

There is no organized religion that isn't guilty as charged. Just ask the Chinese about the Falun Gong. Rhetorical, not intended as a debate on the Falun Gong.

The difference is some believe charity should be mandatory, others voluntary.

I'll note the wording is: provide for "the common good" not "the individual good" Anyone can use a road. Only one person can use an EBT card. Everyone benefits from criminals being locked up. Only one family benefits from a loan modification. Charity is not one of the functions of Government listed in the Constitution.

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Message 1229983 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 12:38:40 UTC - in response to Message 1229977.  

Thanks to democrat created inflation, a million dollars is not that much any more. Try a billion.


Thats true. I remember a longish time ago the definition of a millionaire also included those families with an income of $100,000 per annum.

Well, guess what, if a couple, over 25, both earn just over the average income in full time work, that figure has been reach in 2012.
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Message 1230053 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 16:34:28 UTC - in response to Message 1229977.  

It's amazing that the country still works with that mentality... A actually cancel you out so NYAHHHH!!!

The country is working less and less and I'm forced into that mentality. And I haven't seen this type of rhetoric since I was in grade school.

Now more than ever its important to remember which party has forced its representatives and senators in DC to pledge no new taxes(for the wealthy). Well that's special. now that taxes are at a 60 year historic low its always good to dig in your heels.

Maybe another 10 or 20 thousand pages to the tax code will fix this?

How's that work? no new taxes and the only cost reductions considered are the ones the wealthy donors don't care about.
Question: what's it like being the patsy for the Republican party? Seriously? I assume you aren't worth a cool million and I'm willing to wager there are less than 2 here on the boards. That being said the republicans don't now, won't in the future, haven't in the past give a rats patoot about the poor or middle class let alone small business owners or you. A party whose last and current candidates own more homes than I do pairs of shoes.

If there were no rich people, everybody would be poor. Why is this a good thing? Patsy to the republican party? Believe what you want to believe. I'll say it again, I disagree with republicans the least. Nope, no where near a million, but I also don't have a debit card that's funded by the people who actually pay taxes. I pay taxes, so I guess that's why I don't have one. I really don't see how you can say the republicans don't care about the poor or middle class. Again, if there were no rich people, everybody would be poor.

I'm sorry I can't fathom how a multi million dollar company would be considered small.

Thanks to democrat created inflation, a million dollars is not that much any more. Try a billion.

Guess this is one area where I fail to see how Christian conservatives would consider being aparty to the nonsense.

Here's a few sweet lines I prefer from the bible.

<snip>

Where in the bible does it say a small group of people (I call them politicians) should steal from the rich and give to the poor purpetually?


This is why we can't go any place nice. Nor will any biblical definition stick to a Conservative.


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Message 1230163 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 20:23:21 UTC
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Earlier today I participated in an online presidential poll run by an outfit called Newsmax. A little while later I got an e-mail thanking me for participating and with a link to the results. With over 300,000 responses Mitt Romney has garnered over 75% of the votes. We might have an interesting election afterall. But it's a long way to November.
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Message 1230196 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 21:01:17 UTC - in response to Message 1230163.  

I don't know how reliable that 300,000 respondents claim can be:

Newsmax Media is a conservative American news media organization founded by Christopher W. Ruddy and based in West Palm Beach, Florida. It operates the news website Newsmax.com and publishes Newsmax magazine.


While it may still be an interesting race, their numbers are likely very skewed.
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Message 1230240 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 21:49:46 UTC - in response to Message 1230233.  

Totally agree. With a 2 horse race, any jockey can ride them & one horse will always win.

With a 3 horse race, the favourites will always ensure the top jockey rides the horses!
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Message 1230263 - Posted: 10 May 2012, 22:32:38 UTC - in response to Message 1230240.  

I fully agree with the both of you Chris and Sirius.
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