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Message 1239505 - Posted: 1 Jun 2012, 16:46:56 UTC - in response to Message 1239430.  

I imagine they are waiting for the counts to be 0 to change the display over. IIRC someone mentioned that is what they did for the v5 to v505 change over.

Might have been me. I know when we went from v5 to v505, the splitters were shut off and they were waiting to see how low it would get before making the switch to a new app, but with ~40,000 still out in the field (from the usual +400k) they went ahead and just switched over, and the data on the status page reflected the real number for all APs.

The values on the status page are simply the results of a query on the database. Switching over to v6 from v505 is as easy as changing the text string of "v505" to "v6" in the queries. At least it should be about that simple.

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Message 1239785 - Posted: 2 Jun 2012, 2:11:26 UTC - in response to Message 1239505.  

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The values on the status page are simply the results of a query on the database. Switching over to v6 from v505 is as easy as changing the text string of "v505" to "v6" in the queries. At least it should be about that simple.
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Actually it would probably be changing appid=5 to appid=12, just like the difference when selecting an application on your task pages.
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Message 1239967 - Posted: 2 Jun 2012, 4:48:44 UTC - in response to Message 1239785.  

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The values on the status page are simply the results of a query on the database. Switching over to v6 from v505 is as easy as changing the text string of "v505" to "v6" in the queries. At least it should be about that simple.
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Actually it would probably be changing appid=5 to appid=12, just like the difference when selecting an application on your task pages.
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That does make more sense. Either way, it's a simple change in the query.
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Message 1242171 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 13:45:38 UTC - in response to Message 1239428.  

Results out in the field : 0
Results received in last hour : 0
Result turnaround time (last hour average) : hours
Results returned and awaiting validation : 2
Results waiting for db purging : 46

THE LAST ONE http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=931699188 is still out there after the latest outage.
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC

Looks like another forever stuck workunit.
Even if it gets returned (unlikely?), the WU will just stay in validation.

More important question is... when will the admins change astropulse status display in status page to APv6. Is it really that difficult?

Nah - this is what will happen:

This guy will miss his deadline. Next Saturday, one (possibly even two) new tasks will be created, and a few hours later get sent out to users.

Then, a couple of days later, this one will be reported in late, and we'll have another one to count back in.....


Name ap_22jn11ad_B5_P1_00099_20120214_29806.wu_7
Workunit 931699188
Created 15 May 2012 | 8:49:05 UTC
Sent 15 May 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Received 6 Jun 2012 | 12:17:25 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 6259723
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Run time 456,056.73
CPU time 417,734.70
Validate state Task was reported too late to validate
Credit 0.00
Application version Astropulse v505 v5.05
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Message 1242186 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 14:07:30 UTC

Too bad spending so long time and then coming in late and get 0 credits. Anyway, 5.05 is over and out I guess.
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Message 1242242 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 15:17:56 UTC - in response to Message 1242171.  


Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC


Received 6 Jun 2012 | 12:17:25 UTC

Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 6259723
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Run time 456,056.73
CPU time 417,734.70
Validate state Task was reported too late to validate
Credit 0.00
Application version Astropulse v505 v5.05


Err... Received 6 Jun, report deadline 9 Jun - it was returned within the period, so why too late to validate?

An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc, but IMHO it still should have validated.
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Message 1242389 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 18:17:43 UTC - in response to Message 1242242.  

An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc

Seems like my 10 years old AthlonXP 2000+ with the optimized app is about 1.5x faster. OK, that's per core, but anyway...
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Message 1242514 - Posted: 6 Jun 2012, 22:45:35 UTC

It looks like we finally hit 0 in the field. Still 2 awaiting validation.
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Message 1242571 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 1:10:45 UTC - in response to Message 1242389.  

An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc

Seems like my 10 years old AthlonXP 2000+ with the optimized app is about 1.5x faster. OK, that's per core, but anyway...

But the E350 includes an OpenCL capable GPU which could change that picture.
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Message 1242614 - Posted: 7 Jun 2012, 4:36:49 UTC - in response to Message 1242242.  


Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC


Received 6 Jun 2012 | 12:17:25 UTC

Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 6259723
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Run time 456,056.73
CPU time 417,734.70
Validate state Task was reported too late to validate
Credit 0.00
Application version Astropulse v505 v5.05


Err... Received 6 Jun, report deadline 9 Jun - it was returned within the period, so why too late to validate?


The WU already had two valid results when this task returned. If I understand the process correctly, once the WU validates, no other tasks can validate and receive credit. Unless Eric decides to grant credit manually.



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Message 1243502 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 21:12:42 UTC - in response to Message 1242571.  

An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc

Seems like my 10 years old AthlonXP 2000+ with the optimized app is about 1.5x faster. OK, that's per core, but anyway...

But the E350 includes an OpenCL capable GPU which could change that picture.
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It crunches (OpenCL) Astropulse units twice as fast as my Intel ION did (at the same low power consumption).
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Message 1243507 - Posted: 8 Jun 2012, 21:30:15 UTC - in response to Message 1243502.  
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An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc

Seems like my 10 years old AthlonXP 2000+ with the optimized app is about 1.5x faster. OK, that's per core, but anyway...

But the E350 includes an OpenCL capable GPU which could change that picture.
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It crunches (OpenCL) Astropulse units twice as fast as my Intel ION did (at the same low power consumption).


I agree, an (AMD) ATI, preferrebly a 5800 series or better, does an AstroPulse
running OpenCL in 3,120.98 (runtime) 931.23(CPU) 756.67 AstroPulse v6
Anonymous platform (ATI GPU). This heavily depended on % of RADAR Blanking, especially in CPU-Runtime.
These are the new v6.0 AstroPulse WUs.
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ATI 5870 GPUs.

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Message 1243886 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 8:50:15 UTC - in response to Message 1242571.  

An AMD E350 is a silly processor to use on Boinc

Seems like my 10 years old AthlonXP 2000+ with the optimized app is about 1.5x faster. OK, that's per core, but anyway...

But the E350 includes an OpenCL capable GPU which could change that picture.

Sure, but I was just thinking about the pure CPU power and was surprised, that they would still build such slow CPUs.
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Message 1244031 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 17:39:35 UTC - in response to Message 1243886.  

Sure, but I was just thinking about the pure CPU power and was surprised, that they would still build such slow CPUs.


You would be suprised, its not that long ago that they stopped producing the 8080 and the 8088, the 80180 is still being produced and that is an 8 bit 10MHz processor, not everything needs the power or processing speed of the latest chips.


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Message 1244113 - Posted: 9 Jun 2012, 21:10:15 UTC

^ It's true. Friend of mine was telling me about some 8 or 10MHz processor that he uses in his field and that it is only used for reporting readings from various sensors, and since they don't need 10 million reports/sec, it gets underclocked and undervolted by something like 75%, which makes the chip run about 2C above ambient, so it doesn't need a heatsink and will basically last forever since it doesn't get anywhere close to hot.

TI-83 graphing calculators use a 9MHz processor. If you get the Silver Edition (like I have), it got upgraded to 25MHz. Lots of uses for tiny, low powered, slow processors.
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Message 1244294 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 8:59:20 UTC - in response to Message 1244031.  

Sure, but I was just thinking about the pure CPU power and was surprised, that they would still build such slow CPUs.


You would be suprised, its not that long ago that they stopped producing the 8080 and the 8088, the 80180 is still being produced and that is an 8 bit 10MHz processor, not everything needs the power or processing speed of the latest chips.

OK, I should have write "for PCs" at the end.
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Message 1244378 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 15:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 1244294.  
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Sure, but I was just thinking about the pure CPU power and was surprised, that they would still build such slow CPUs.


You would be suprised, its not that long ago that they stopped producing the 8080 and the 8088, the 80180 is still being produced and that is an 8 bit 10MHz processor, not everything needs the power or processing speed of the latest chips.

OK, I should have write "for PCs" at the end.


The 8080 was one of the original PC chips running at 2MHz and able to address 64 kilobytes of memory, it was followed by the 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, and the 80486 before the Pentium.

edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors
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Message 1244392 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 16:14:44 UTC - in response to Message 1244378.  

Sure, but I was just thinking about the pure CPU power and was surprised, that they would still build such slow CPUs.


You would be suprised, its not that long ago that they stopped producing the 8080 and the 8088, the 80180 is still being produced and that is an 8 bit 10MHz processor, not everything needs the power or processing speed of the latest chips.

OK, I should have write "for PCs" at the end.


The 8080 was one of the original PC chips running at 2MHz and able to address 64 kilobytes of memory, it was followed by the 8086, 80186, 80286, 80386, and the 80486 before the Pentium.

edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_microprocessors


I remember I would see the 8080 in electronic hobby magazines in the 80's in the classified section for parts for about 10 or 20 dollars and the military would harden them so as a nuclear blast would not harm them with the electric pulse from the blast and then used them in satellites in space and they still use them not too long ago but I don't know about now. I have been out of the USAF since 82. The USAF would put a missile on an F-16 and it would fly as high as it could and then the pilot would fire the missile at the satellite and take it out with the missile.
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Message 1244394 - Posted: 10 Jun 2012, 16:26:19 UTC - in response to Message 1244378.  

I was talking about the speed of CPUs for PCs (desktop/laptop) which are build today (or in the past 1-2 years), just like this AMD E350 (it was released 2011). I was not talking about what CPUs we had 20 or 30 years ago and for sure not about some measurement equipment or pocket calculators.
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