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Message 1298305 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 2:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 1296486.

The most ideal spacecraft would be an asteroid or city sized comet solid enough for mineing and construction under its surface. The asteroid could be put into a parking orbit manipulated to mine and make it our space station. If its water ice levels were high enough oxygen and fuel could be manufactered. Sooner or later we have to deal with earth crossing asteroids we can practice on smaller ones. Attaching robotic thrusters could change its acceleration and eliminate the risk.

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Message 1298420 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 21:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 1298305.
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The most ideal spacecraft would be an asteroid or city sized comet solid enough for mineing and construction under its surface. The asteroid could be put into a parking orbit manipulated to mine and make it our space station. If its water ice levels were high enough oxygen and fuel could be manufactered. Sooner or later we have to deal with earth crossing asteroids we can practice on smaller ones. Attaching robotic thrusters could change its acceleration and eliminate the risk.

Your right Larry!
I have thought about that a lot over the last few years. And asteroid would be the perfect spaceship or space station. And like you say, all you have to do is capture one and bring it into Earth orbit and drill out the middle of the asteroid for living space.

I reckon an asteroid about 10 kilometres across would be a nice size. Drill into one end and start making rooms and in no time your would have a little city inside the asteroid. Attach some thrusters to one end and your asteroid has its own propulsion system!

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Message 1298551 - Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 7:03:33 UTC - in response to Message 1298420.
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When mankind figures out what makes the universe expand and how to manipulate that element he will be ready for space travel. What would be interesting is to find out what is really on the other side of a black hole ?
The day will come when resources start to run out on earth and humans will have to look to the stars for further support of life it self and the sooner mankind embraces that reality there will be no turning back.
If man kind is going to secure a future for it self to overcome famine, disease, and self destruction the population on earth needs to work towards one simple goal the survival of the human race. Until all of mankind can think in that one simple direction we have a long road ahead of us if we as life forms will survive.
We can only hope that the future has blessed the human race to be a part of it.....
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Message 1300114 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 5:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1298420.

This also could mine wide swaths of spacejunk locate it in a very space junk orbit and let gravity do the work. Astronauts could gather the remnants to recycle. Mineing an asteroid would be the absolute best way to get a high volume spacestation. New minerals found and age old answers would wait for the gathering. Some of the city sized earth crossing asteroids have to be dealt with somehow and blowing them up isnt it. Mine them and when done send them into a orbit out of the dolar sytem or into the sun or jupiter.We have the technology availible and using it with ourrobotic landers. Such a lander could be equitted with an ion thrusters direct it to a stable parking orbit for mining. Safe from radation and impacts it would be ideal.

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Message 1301117 - Posted: 2 Nov 2012, 1:29:06 UTC

hola, soy nuevo por aqui y no hablo ingles asique tengo que arreglarme con el google traductor, me gustaria saber si alguien ha visto algo parecido a lo que yo vi, ya que no encuentro una explicacion logica y soy bastante exceptico. vivo en la costa atlantica de españa, y en una noche de niebla baja y espesa, a unos 200 metros de altura, yo estaba en un camino de montaña dentro de un coche y por encima de esa altura la noche estaba muy clara con una visibilidad muy buena aparecio una "bola" luminosa calculo que de unos 5 metros de diametro que iluminaba perfectamente las copas de los arboles que casi tocaba en vuelo estacionario, yo estaria a unos 150 metros de distancia y podia ver perfectamente los arboles, de repente la "bola" empezo a desplazarse a un lado y a otro horizontalmente a una velocidad que no puedo calcular pero era muy muy rapido y de forma instantanea, es decir no aceleraba eran movimientos secos y se detenia igual de rapido, tras cada movimiento de unos 100 o 200 metros resultaba complicado fijar la vista cuando se desplazaba, de repente ascendio a una velocidad increible y desaparecio, un momento despues volvio se dio un paseo parecido y volvio a ascender de la misma manera, lo mas curioso es que sali del coche y no hacia absolutamente ningun ruido, nada de nada.no conozco nada que pueda volar de esa manera, esto duro unos minutos y solo se que casi me lo hago encima, arranque el coche y me fui sin haber sacado una foto o video ya que no tenia con que hacerla. ahora cada vez que vuelvo por alli me aseguro de llevar una buena camara. por favor si alguien tiene alguna posible explicacion me gustaria conocerla. esto me ocurrio hace unos 5 años y sigo sin entenderlo.

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Message 1308874 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 18:29:02 UTC

It's indeed hard to proof the presence of aliens in the exact scientific way.
On the other hand, there are some possibilities in the spiritual area.
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Message 1310513 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 17:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1301117.

hola, soy nuevo por aqui y no hablo ingles asique tengo que arreglarme con el google traductor, me gustaria saber si alguien ha visto algo parecido a lo que yo vi, ya que no encuentro una explicacion logica y soy bastante exceptico. vivo en la costa atlantica de españa, y en una noche de niebla baja y espesa, a unos 200 metros de altura, yo estaba en un camino de montaña dentro de un coche y por encima de esa altura la noche estaba muy clara con una visibilidad muy buena aparecio una "bola" luminosa calculo que de unos 5 metros de diametro que iluminaba perfectamente las copas de los arboles que casi tocaba en vuelo estacionario, yo estaria a unos 150 metros de distancia y podia ver perfectamente los arboles, de repente la "bola" empezo a desplazarse a un lado y a otro horizontalmente a una velocidad que no puedo calcular pero era muy muy rapido y de forma instantanea, es decir no aceleraba eran movimientos secos y se detenia igual de rapido, tras cada movimiento de unos 100 o 200 metros resultaba complicado fijar la vista cuando se desplazaba, de repente ascendio a una velocidad increible y desaparecio, un momento despues volvio se dio un paseo parecido y volvio a ascender de la misma manera, lo mas curioso es que sali del coche y no hacia absolutamente ningun ruido, nada de nada.no conozco nada que pueda volar de esa manera, esto duro unos minutos y solo se que casi me lo hago encima, arranque el coche y me fui sin haber sacado una foto o video ya que no tenia con que hacerla. ahora cada vez que vuelvo por alli me aseguro de llevar una buena camara. por favor si alguien tiene alguna posible explicacion me gustaria conocerla. esto me ocurrio hace unos 5 años y sigo sin entenderlo.

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Hi, I'm new here and do not speak English so I have to get ready with the google translator, I wonder if anyone has seen anything like what I saw, and I can not find a logical explanation and I'm pretty skeptical. live on the Atlantic coast of Spain, and in a foggy night low and thick, about 200 meters, I was on a mountain road in a car and above that height the night was clear with visibility very good appeared a "ball" luminous reckon about 5 meters in diameter perfectly illuminating the tops of the trees that almost touched on hover, I would be about 150 feet away and could see perfectly the trees, suddenly "ball "began to scroll back and forth horizontally at a speed that I can not figure but it was very very quick and instantaneously, ie no movements were accelerated dry and stopped just as fast, following every move of about 100 or 200 meter stare was complicated when moved suddenly ascended to an incredible speed and disappeared, then returned a moment he seemed a walk and climbed back up the same way, the most curious is that I got out and did absolutely no noise, no nada.no know anything that can fly that way, this lasted only a few minutes and I almost do over, start the car and went without having taken a picture or video and I did not have that do it. Now every time I come over there I make sure to bring a good camera. please if anyone has any possible explanation I would like to know. This happened to me about 5 years ago and I still do not understand.
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Message 1310528 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 18:08:26 UTC

My sister-in-law had a similar experience a few years ago. She also saw an orb of light and it followed her as she was riding her bike.
I heard before you can get such a phenomenon with lightning but my sister-in-law told me the skies were clear that night.
A (maybe far fetched) theory says they could be entities from another dimension who materialize themselves like that over here. Another theory of course is that they could be aliens. But what I think is it has something to do with electricity or magnetic fields or certain kinds of rare elements who give this kind of effect when they collide in the air. I'm sure it can scientifly be explained.
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Message 1312168 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 15:43:24 UTC

I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?
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Message 1312177 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 16:08:03 UTC

Ya we used to see strange things around bell textron in fort worth,

don't ask don't tell.

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Message 1312207 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 17:43:47 UTC - in response to Message 1312168.
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I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?



Found this...
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/20/ufo-over-denver-fox31-update-on-mystery-in-sky/
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Message 1312277 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 20:03:36 UTC - in response to Message 1312207.

I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?

Found this...
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/20/ufo-over-denver-fox31-update-on-mystery-in-sky/

That's just gutter press stirring things up for a silly story. All very non-serious and just a shoddy space filler.

As for what is shown... Most like foreground dirt on or inside the camera.


Next?!

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Message 1312281 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 20:09:27 UTC

Meanwhile, for your amusement, I have recently seen for real a real UFO! In plain daylight, clear view, but as is usual for such things, too fast for me to get a camera onto it.

The time was last weekend, just as twilight was falling. Lasted a good few minutes to get a good look. It was the classic two lights flying in variable formation and moving on occasion VERY QUICKLY. They would also disappear right before my eyes to then reappear in the far distance a moment or two later, to then whirl around each other to then frighteningly quickly zoom back close by again.

And they were extremely BRIGHT.

The lights did that for a five circuits of their dance before disappearing off to one side. Quite a show!

I was too surprised and delighted to get a camera on them until after they had departed. Shame...

And this was all around the one large tower and conurbation that dominates the very flat fens.


Certainly a good one to live and learn!

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Message 1312479 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 10:30:15 UTC

Not the first time I hear a story like that. Must be something to it...
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Message 1312545 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 12:58:30 UTC
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Was there any sound? We regularly get police, Ambulance, and press helicopters circling around South London giving the sort of effect that you describe. Heathrow radar covers most of the GLC area, and they would be alerting the military to any unauthorised or unexpected intrusions into air space.

I'm not doubting what you observed, just commenting upon the likley reason for it.

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Message 1312765 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 23:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 1312545.
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Was there any sound? ...

Completely silent. From my perspective, all that could be heard was the tweet tweet of a few birds, and the normal sounds around the courtyard in which I was standing in one corner.

The lights were VERY bright in comparison to the surroundings, and unnaturally too bright to be such as human manufactured lights. The brightness was what first caught my attention.


Of great significance is the low angle of sunlight against a darkening background of twilight on a cold clear late afternoon approaching winter...

More clues from appropriate questions...

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Message 1312881 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 3:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1312277.

Maybe you should watch the local news station in Denver Colorado because they filmed it also and its the same time and place every week that everyone sees the UFO It even lands in Denver every week ....
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Message 1313595 - Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 17:51:38 UTC - in response to Message 1222846.

One I belive maybe someone is seeing something. The real ufos are overlooked because of so many frauds. Most are pictures of lights miles away never steady and when they are in focus they are so fake its absurd. Another thing is that these small ships cannot be from another world they couldnt carry enough fuel. The sheer distances involved a lightyear or more would take 50 years or more to do. The nearest star Alpha Proxima is about 4.5 lightyears away at 60000 mph it would take 73000 years to reach the nearest star one way.
The BIGGEST question a intelligent being comes all this way and continues to do so for decades or centurys and not one attempt of communication. A intelligent race would communicate in some form.
If they have been visiting for all this time but not communicateing what is thier intentions. Why not communicate, with life so precious and rare in space why not communicate share information or refuel to return to point of origin.
The earth is a gem a rare diamond amongst millions of other planets and stars maybe a occupation of the earth by a dying planet or star system race that have to relocate. With knowledge of star travel could be a tough foe to deal with. With half the population with cameras you would think that someone somewhere on the earth would have a picture of a UFO that showed it this tall this wide and what it looks like in an out. If this could be done then maybe belife in some sort of extraterrestial life could be belived.
There are reports of a air force officer touching one in a secure airforce base that housed nuclear weapons in Great Britain. I feel this the most reliable sighting documented ,in offcial report. Why would a ship go to this base without a purpose or intent of malnevolence in someway.


the BIGGEST misunderstanding is the term U.F.O. itself. There ARE U.F.O's ..... yes... They DO Exist. but everyone just assumes that a U.F.O. has to be from outer space. Oh, by the way, have you noticed it's U.F.O. and NOT just UFO ..... yes, U.F.O.. anyway, U.F.O's actually even exist On Earth. That's right, even a Small aircraft or a helicopter, or a hot Air Balloon can be a U.F.O.. if it hasn't been identified (as in Who It Is), it is a U.F.O.. If an Aircraft happens to fly off course and has lost it's radio, and can't be contacted, it is a U.F.O: Unidentified flying object. Even a Flock of birds viewed on a radar, that hasn't been physically Viewed, and apperas to be just a Flying object on the Radar, is a U.F.O..
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Message 1313596 - Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 17:53:15 UTC - in response to Message 1312881.

It's probably The I.S.S., or some other Satellite.
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Message 1313598 - Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 18:00:07 UTC

There was a supposed sighting of a Large U.F.O. in Melbourne Australia on the night of May 31st,2012. i saw it on YouTube. strangely enough, DRAGON (the first commercial Space craft) returned from the I.S.S. on may 31st. It passed over Australia on its descent Journey, and splashed down in The Pacific Ocean. looking at The Object in The Video, you can clearly see the Solar Panels reflecting light.
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