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Message 1289591 - Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 5:14:52 UTC

Our life is linked directly to the stars. The elemental elements that make up our species also are found in the stars. The idea of species found on another water world as long as water in liquid form and a temperant envirment life seems to find a way to fill every niche of habital ground. Many stars are billions of years older than ours if their life exists and persistant trail and error a way could be found for the distance barrier between stars conquered and exploration follows. I dont think I could say that life cant be found somewhere else comparible to the earth. Planets other than the earth mdont have carbon that is essential for life on earth as we know it. Mars has no carbon anywhere on the surface but methane has been dectected a by product of life. Organic decay makes methane maybe below the surface of mars exist a possible link to microbial life. A martian colony might be attempted if funding is availible. Robtic missions are the best we can do it.Man as a species will have to leave the earth in 3 billion years. We are headed for a head on collision withe Andromada galaxy. In 5 billion years our sun will die. So some way to exist as a species we have to leave our galaxy and hope we find a peacefull star with a water world like the earth and hope we can adapt to a alien world...
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Message 1292510 - Posted: 7 Oct 2012, 19:09:07 UTC - in response to Message 1289591.  

How old are stars, some are seeming to be older than the universe at 12.3-15.7 billion years old. Our sun at an estimated 5 billion years old, other stars in our neighbor hood are much older. In our own galaxy some satillite star cluster are composed of emmensely older stars. The possibilty of these stable old stars having water worlds like the earth is highly possible.
Can life travel between the stars? We have started but havent found anything but deslolation and seemily dead worlds.
Homo sapiens modern man is roughly been around only been around 40000 years, Neanderthals were around for over 200000 years and even shared the same habitats. Now mosern man has taken hold but how could Homo Sapiens evovle from his closest relative and change so quikly. At this time 40000 years ago is the start of modern man and something happened to make man more than a hunter gatherer but a builder. What happened to mankind too fast for evelution to explain the speedyness of his knownledge. How can this be explained? Man the dominant species was neanderthals for over 200000 years and go extinct. Was man enhanced genectically 40000 years ago by some visitors who can say but something happened because modern man is different but genectically bound to neanserthals.
I would say for this to happen so fast is for some intervention somewhere to make homosapiens. So we must be the alien species introduced to adapt to this world or go extinct.
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Message 1292668 - Posted: 8 Oct 2012, 2:45:35 UTC

Larry good post, and yes stars are made up of the same composition as humans, and yes you do have to wonder did man evolve the way science says he evolved? There are lots of species on earth that could never had gone through evolution to become what it is today. Take the giraffe, its an unusual animal that contains an interesting design mechanism. Did you know that a full grown giraffe's heart weighs over 24 pounds and pumps 16 gallons a minute? Because the giraffe's heart is much larger than his head, a series of special one-way, back-flow prevent-er If evolution is true, the struggle for the Giraffe to survive must have been one ugly sight! Let's take a look at one possible outcome... valves are needed in the neck to regulate the flow of blood to the head, especially when the giraffe is bending down to get that much needed drink of water. Without these valves, the immense blood pressure coupled with gravity would make for one nasty headache and other such repercussions. Elastic blood vessels in the giraffe's head allow harboring of enough blood to prevent the giraffe from passing out when bent in this position.

The creationist points out that this intricate design mechanism is, you guessed it, a design! The evolutionist will have you believe that this system evolved with time, that eventually a giraffe mutated merrily along until the valves properly formed in the neck and the elastic blood vessels sufficiently formed in the head (along with other details left out here). Giraffe with a distressed look on his face, revealing the discomfort due to buildup of pressure on the brain! He's pretty thirsty, hopefully that mutating valve will hold out.

Warning - Explicit cranial explosion! Not recommended for members of PETA*!

Proceed with caution, *PETA stands for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. This knucklehead group condemns fetal tissue research on animals while at the same time supporting it on human fetuses! They are more interested in worshiping the creation than the Creator (Romans 1:25). I pride myself as a member of an different organization also called PETA - People who Eat Tasty Animals! But not the Giraffe LOL ewww...This series required a wild (and some would say warped) imagination on my part! But wild imagination coupled with extravagant story-telling ability is exactly what the evolutionist must employ to explain how intricate, inter-dependent systems such as the Giraffe's capillary system can gradually evolve over time!

To say every living thing came about via mindless random processes requires a faith that far exceeds belief in a Supreme Creator. As the renown British physicist Lord Kelvin once wrote: "Overwhelming strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us ... The atheistic idea is so nonsensical that I cannot put it into words." The Whale OK, this isn't a whale, but this wolf-like creature is supposedly the whale's great, great, great, great, ... great granddaddy! The evolutionist must make this leap of faith because the whale is a mammal. Evolutionists believe that certain fish a long time ago learned to walk out of the water and eventually evolved into mammals. Since there are mammals such as whales in the water, they were forced to postulate that a few of the land mammals became homesick and returned to the water and became whales! Wow!

The whale has many incredibly complex mechanisms that makes it vastly different than land-dwelling mammals. For example, whales have a huge chamber of sperm oil that allows adjustment of buoyancy at different depths, and are equipped with features that allow them to withstand the enormous amount of pressure they encounter at great depths. Their eyes have a far higher refractive index to allow them to see in water, and their ears can pick up airborne sound waves under high pressure. Whales also possess very complex sonar capability.According to Carl Sagan, "The secrets of evolution are death and time - the deaths of enormous numbers of life forms that were imperfectly adapted to the environment; and time for a long succession of small mutations that were by accident adaptive, time for the slow accumulation of patterns of favorable mutations1."

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Despite no real biological or fossil evidence2 of this wolf-to-whale transition, evolutionists still hold to this imaginative fairy tale (see The Overselling of Whale Evolution). The evolutionist Ernst Mayr once candidly wrote that "it is a considerable strain on one's credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird's feather) could be improved by random mutations3." We agree that the evolutionist's credulity is quite strained!1. The fossil record certainly doesn't help the evolutionist's position. Considering the quantity of avian (bird) and especially bat fossils that have been unearthed, if evolution were true there should be hundreds of thousands of examples of transitional forms demonstrating a gradual limb-to-wing development over time. But there are none! Instead, birds and bats appear fully formed in the fossil record, as would be expected if creation were true. Indeed, the oldest fossil bat (called Icaronycteris by long-winded evolutionists) is supposedly 50 million years old, yet is indistinguishable from a modern bat! (see Glenn Jepson, Science 154:1333-1339, 1966). Additionally, both non-flying and flying insects are found in the fossil record, without a trace of intermediate insects in the process of obtaining the ability to fly. Where are the ancestors to the flying insects, and where are the intermediate steps? The answer is simple - they don't exist because evolution is a fairy tale! If you think about all the different species of animals and insects and humans alike it really sounds like earth is a repository for other alien worlds and we are the experiment for them. Just one theory.....

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Message 1296034 - Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 3:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1292743.  

Did you know that giraffs and sparrows have the dame amount of neck bones. I learned this little tidbit from a man in the Detroit Historical museam.Something that lately that little has been said about the amount of radation you recieve in space. Mars at the surface gets 200 mr on a daily basis and spikes over 400 mr that can be fatal. I just recently monitored daily radation on the surface of mars and I never continplated the amounts are very high. Even voyager 1 is monitoring radation 11.8 billion miles from the sun but now has a drop off at the edge of the helioussphere of the sun. Best bet for a long distance spacecraft is an asteroids. Mine it build it so it can parked in orbit and develope it into a space station.Impervious to impacts and shielding from intense radation.
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Message 1298305 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 2:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 1296486.  

The most ideal spacecraft would be an asteroid or city sized comet solid enough for mineing and construction under its surface. The asteroid could be put into a parking orbit manipulated to mine and make it our space station. If its water ice levels were high enough oxygen and fuel could be manufactered. Sooner or later we have to deal with earth crossing asteroids we can practice on smaller ones. Attaching robotic thrusters could change its acceleration and eliminate the risk.
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Message 1298420 - Posted: 24 Oct 2012, 21:21:17 UTC - in response to Message 1298305.  
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The most ideal spacecraft would be an asteroid or city sized comet solid enough for mineing and construction under its surface. The asteroid could be put into a parking orbit manipulated to mine and make it our space station. If its water ice levels were high enough oxygen and fuel could be manufactered. Sooner or later we have to deal with earth crossing asteroids we can practice on smaller ones. Attaching robotic thrusters could change its acceleration and eliminate the risk.

Your right Larry!
I have thought about that a lot over the last few years. And asteroid would be the perfect spaceship or space station. And like you say, all you have to do is capture one and bring it into Earth orbit and drill out the middle of the asteroid for living space.

I reckon an asteroid about 10 kilometres across would be a nice size. Drill into one end and start making rooms and in no time your would have a little city inside the asteroid. Attach some thrusters to one end and your asteroid has its own propulsion system!

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Message 1298551 - Posted: 25 Oct 2012, 7:03:33 UTC - in response to Message 1298420.  
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When mankind figures out what makes the universe expand and how to manipulate that element he will be ready for space travel. What would be interesting is to find out what is really on the other side of a black hole ?
The day will come when resources start to run out on earth and humans will have to look to the stars for further support of life it self and the sooner mankind embraces that reality there will be no turning back.
If man kind is going to secure a future for it self to overcome famine, disease, and self destruction the population on earth needs to work towards one simple goal the survival of the human race. Until all of mankind can think in that one simple direction we have a long road ahead of us if we as life forms will survive.
We can only hope that the future has blessed the human race to be a part of it.....
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Message 1300114 - Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 5:00:51 UTC - in response to Message 1298420.  

This also could mine wide swaths of spacejunk locate it in a very space junk orbit and let gravity do the work. Astronauts could gather the remnants to recycle. Mineing an asteroid would be the absolute best way to get a high volume spacestation. New minerals found and age old answers would wait for the gathering. Some of the city sized earth crossing asteroids have to be dealt with somehow and blowing them up isnt it. Mine them and when done send them into a orbit out of the dolar sytem or into the sun or jupiter.We have the technology availible and using it with ourrobotic landers. Such a lander could be equitted with an ion thrusters direct it to a stable parking orbit for mining. Safe from radation and impacts it would be ideal.
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Message 1301117 - Posted: 2 Nov 2012, 1:29:06 UTC

hola, soy nuevo por aqui y no hablo ingles asique tengo que arreglarme con el google traductor, me gustaria saber si alguien ha visto algo parecido a lo que yo vi, ya que no encuentro una explicacion logica y soy bastante exceptico. vivo en la costa atlantica de españa, y en una noche de niebla baja y espesa, a unos 200 metros de altura, yo estaba en un camino de montaña dentro de un coche y por encima de esa altura la noche estaba muy clara con una visibilidad muy buena aparecio una "bola" luminosa calculo que de unos 5 metros de diametro que iluminaba perfectamente las copas de los arboles que casi tocaba en vuelo estacionario, yo estaria a unos 150 metros de distancia y podia ver perfectamente los arboles, de repente la "bola" empezo a desplazarse a un lado y a otro horizontalmente a una velocidad que no puedo calcular pero era muy muy rapido y de forma instantanea, es decir no aceleraba eran movimientos secos y se detenia igual de rapido, tras cada movimiento de unos 100 o 200 metros resultaba complicado fijar la vista cuando se desplazaba, de repente ascendio a una velocidad increible y desaparecio, un momento despues volvio se dio un paseo parecido y volvio a ascender de la misma manera, lo mas curioso es que sali del coche y no hacia absolutamente ningun ruido, nada de nada.no conozco nada que pueda volar de esa manera, esto duro unos minutos y solo se que casi me lo hago encima, arranque el coche y me fui sin haber sacado una foto o video ya que no tenia con que hacerla. ahora cada vez que vuelvo por alli me aseguro de llevar una buena camara. por favor si alguien tiene alguna posible explicacion me gustaria conocerla. esto me ocurrio hace unos 5 años y sigo sin entenderlo.
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Message 1308874 - Posted: 22 Nov 2012, 18:29:02 UTC

It's indeed hard to proof the presence of aliens in the exact scientific way.
On the other hand, there are some possibilities in the spiritual area.
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Message 1310513 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 17:10:21 UTC - in response to Message 1301117.  

hola, soy nuevo por aqui y no hablo ingles asique tengo que arreglarme con el google traductor, me gustaria saber si alguien ha visto algo parecido a lo que yo vi, ya que no encuentro una explicacion logica y soy bastante exceptico. vivo en la costa atlantica de españa, y en una noche de niebla baja y espesa, a unos 200 metros de altura, yo estaba en un camino de montaña dentro de un coche y por encima de esa altura la noche estaba muy clara con una visibilidad muy buena aparecio una "bola" luminosa calculo que de unos 5 metros de diametro que iluminaba perfectamente las copas de los arboles que casi tocaba en vuelo estacionario, yo estaria a unos 150 metros de distancia y podia ver perfectamente los arboles, de repente la "bola" empezo a desplazarse a un lado y a otro horizontalmente a una velocidad que no puedo calcular pero era muy muy rapido y de forma instantanea, es decir no aceleraba eran movimientos secos y se detenia igual de rapido, tras cada movimiento de unos 100 o 200 metros resultaba complicado fijar la vista cuando se desplazaba, de repente ascendio a una velocidad increible y desaparecio, un momento despues volvio se dio un paseo parecido y volvio a ascender de la misma manera, lo mas curioso es que sali del coche y no hacia absolutamente ningun ruido, nada de nada.no conozco nada que pueda volar de esa manera, esto duro unos minutos y solo se que casi me lo hago encima, arranque el coche y me fui sin haber sacado una foto o video ya que no tenia con que hacerla. ahora cada vez que vuelvo por alli me aseguro de llevar una buena camara. por favor si alguien tiene alguna posible explicacion me gustaria conocerla. esto me ocurrio hace unos 5 años y sigo sin entenderlo.

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Hi, I'm new here and do not speak English so I have to get ready with the google translator, I wonder if anyone has seen anything like what I saw, and I can not find a logical explanation and I'm pretty skeptical. live on the Atlantic coast of Spain, and in a foggy night low and thick, about 200 meters, I was on a mountain road in a car and above that height the night was clear with visibility very good appeared a "ball" luminous reckon about 5 meters in diameter perfectly illuminating the tops of the trees that almost touched on hover, I would be about 150 feet away and could see perfectly the trees, suddenly "ball "began to scroll back and forth horizontally at a speed that I can not figure but it was very very quick and instantaneously, ie no movements were accelerated dry and stopped just as fast, following every move of about 100 or 200 meter stare was complicated when moved suddenly ascended to an incredible speed and disappeared, then returned a moment he seemed a walk and climbed back up the same way, the most curious is that I got out and did absolutely no noise, no nada.no know anything that can fly that way, this lasted only a few minutes and I almost do over, start the car and went without having taken a picture or video and I did not have that do it. Now every time I come over there I make sure to bring a good camera. please if anyone has any possible explanation I would like to know. This happened to me about 5 years ago and I still do not understand.
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Message 1310528 - Posted: 26 Nov 2012, 18:08:26 UTC

My sister-in-law had a similar experience a few years ago. She also saw an orb of light and it followed her as she was riding her bike.
I heard before you can get such a phenomenon with lightning but my sister-in-law told me the skies were clear that night.
A (maybe far fetched) theory says they could be entities from another dimension who materialize themselves like that over here. Another theory of course is that they could be aliens. But what I think is it has something to do with electricity or magnetic fields or certain kinds of rare elements who give this kind of effect when they collide in the air. I'm sure it can scientifly be explained.
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Message 1312168 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 15:43:24 UTC

I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?
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Message 1312177 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 16:08:03 UTC

Ya we used to see strange things around bell textron in fort worth,

don't ask don't tell.

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Message 1312207 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 17:43:47 UTC - in response to Message 1312168.  
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I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?



Found this...
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/20/ufo-over-denver-fox31-update-on-mystery-in-sky/
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Message 1312277 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 20:03:36 UTC - in response to Message 1312207.  

I cant find anymore news about the UFO's over Denver Colorado has anyone else heard anything? Or did the government break out there duct tape again?

Found this...
http://kdvr.com/2012/11/20/ufo-over-denver-fox31-update-on-mystery-in-sky/

That's just gutter press stirring things up for a silly story. All very non-serious and just a shoddy space filler.

As for what is shown... Most like foreground dirt on or inside the camera.


Next?!

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Message 1312281 - Posted: 7 Dec 2012, 20:09:27 UTC

Meanwhile, for your amusement, I have recently seen for real a real UFO! In plain daylight, clear view, but as is usual for such things, too fast for me to get a camera onto it.

The time was last weekend, just as twilight was falling. Lasted a good few minutes to get a good look. It was the classic two lights flying in variable formation and moving on occasion VERY QUICKLY. They would also disappear right before my eyes to then reappear in the far distance a moment or two later, to then whirl around each other to then frighteningly quickly zoom back close by again.

And they were extremely BRIGHT.

The lights did that for a five circuits of their dance before disappearing off to one side. Quite a show!

I was too surprised and delighted to get a camera on them until after they had departed. Shame...

And this was all around the one large tower and conurbation that dominates the very flat fens.


Certainly a good one to live and learn!

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Message 1312479 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 10:30:15 UTC

Not the first time I hear a story like that. Must be something to it...
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Message 1312765 - Posted: 8 Dec 2012, 23:25:35 UTC - in response to Message 1312545.  
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Was there any sound? ...

Completely silent. From my perspective, all that could be heard was the tweet tweet of a few birds, and the normal sounds around the courtyard in which I was standing in one corner.

The lights were VERY bright in comparison to the surroundings, and unnaturally too bright to be such as human manufactured lights. The brightness was what first caught my attention.


Of great significance is the low angle of sunlight against a darkening background of twilight on a cold clear late afternoon approaching winter...

More clues from appropriate questions...

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Message 1312881 - Posted: 9 Dec 2012, 3:43:46 UTC - in response to Message 1312277.  

Maybe you should watch the local news station in Denver Colorado because they filmed it also and its the same time and place every week that everyone sees the UFO It even lands in Denver every week ....
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