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You know that half the ufos reported could be ours. They dont get shot down world wide. Half? Until I see evidence otherwise, I would say that all the UFOs are of terrestrial origin or straight out delusion. | |
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A UFO is exactly what it is, an Unidentified Flying Object. But traditionally everyone assumes that anything seen that cannot be explained, must be of ET origin. And that is the basic cause of the problem. Each major country in the world is conducting experiments with advanced aircraft, missiles, drones, and other such things. And they are hardly likely to admit their existence are they? | |
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Lets look at the facts. | |
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A whole chain of people know about where funds are acquired and distributed without record makes illegal under present laws. They cannot have this no accounting of these funds even without congress or the president knwing about it or approving such massive funds without any redtaint or dicumentation. And this is getting bigger with the US 194 trillion in the red. Black ops happen in every country, not just the USA. | |
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On the other hand creating a repository (read battery) for energy storage can only be miniaturized so far before coming up against the wall of physical impossibility. I've seen estimates that the energy needed to create a wormhole, should they prove to be possible, would entail harnessing the complete output of a sun sized star. The same is true for star drives that encapsulate a spacecraft and then move space around it. The ability to manipulate energy at that level is thousands of years off, if possible at all. Encapsulate a spacecraft? Creating wormholes? It's all about warping space, friend, and for that we need one of those nifty warp cores :D ____________ | |
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Lets look at the facts. I wish we would. In 1951 Eisenhower wanted UFOs shot down and access to what the airforce had. Please watch Eisenhower Military Industrial complex was above any of his authority to question. Cite authoritative reference please? An order to shoot down UFOs doesn't mean alien UFOs. It simply means to shoot down anything unidentified. Where is the evidence that this means alien UFOs as you're suggesting? In 2009 after 60 years of dening that the Airforce knows nothing about UFOs. A Dr Woods came up with 2 copies of Airforce Manual on Racovery and Disposal of UFOs. The ink stamps and watermarks are all originals and then another copy showed up from a different source. Dr Woods doesnt document anaylis for the government. Where did Dr. Woods and this "other source" get these manuals? How do we know they're real? What evidence do we have that supports his claims? What reason do we have to believe these documents are real? A trillion or more dollars in black budget funds have been used for what. For plenty of Black Ops. Any actual evidence to support the idea that "a trillion or more dollars" is spent covering up alien existence? Several presidents and many airforce top officials are guity of covering up and squaundering billions without a chain of command and presidents and the public lied to. No verifaction of what funds go where and what chain of authorization in place. The atomic bomber engines and research of atomic rocket engines that worked 110 million a year for 10 years theb abandoned and buried in situ. Ok, firstly, I won't even bother to argue on how you supposedly know where billions of dollars are going without the public knowing - yet somehow every alien conspiracy theorist knows exactly where. And so does every believer in the "NWO" theory. And so does every believer in every government conspiracy knows exactly where the money is going! They "just need to get the word out to the unknowning public". Come on! I have no doubt that money was squandered, but until you can provide evidence for what you're suggesting, you're just making unsupported claims, which makes you look foolish, and I don't really think you're a fool. Since 1953 something happened and UFOs became a state secret why? Contact?, communication?, and alliance to assist them, who knows but our countrys woes are directly related to these black projects that, only a select few know about but a chain of command from the funds to airforce is secret. A whole chain of people know about where funds are acquired and distributed without record makes illegal under present laws. They cannot have this no accounting of these funds even without congress or the president knwing about it or approving such massive funds without any redtaint or dicumentation. And this is getting bigger with the US 194 trillion in the red. UFOs became a state secret in case the claims were actually real, and like any ongoing investigation, it will likely always remain a state secret. <sigh> Again, just because the government classifies something as "secret", doesn't mean they're hiding "the truth". You haven't brought a single fact to the table. You've brought the same unverified claims every alien conspiracy theorists bring up constantly. Again, watch those Penn and Teller videos that deal with this self-defeating logic and why it's nothing more than foolishness. Where is the evidence? | |
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On the subject of spy planes there was the SR-71 "Blackbird" which was created after Gary Powers got shot down in the U-2. She had a titanium fuselage which would glow hot from the air drag friction. She was capable of Mach 3+ so they say. I have heard rumors that the SR-71 was much faster. Thy made a half dozen or so. You can see one outside, in front of the Space Museum in Huntsville Alabama. | |
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Here is one question concerning UFOs: Why hasnt a UFO ever been shot down over a city or secure areas such as Los Alalmos, Sandia labratory, Whitesands Missle test range, Dugway proving grounds. These bases are our most secure bases and some have had 3000 sightings a month and many pilots killed trying to pursue. | |
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Here is one question concerning UFOs: Why hasnt a UFO ever been shot down over a city or secure areas such as Los Alalmos, Sandia labratory, Whitesands Missle test range, Dugway proving grounds. Occam's Razor applies here. One hasn't been shot down because they haven't been visiting. As for funding black operations thats enough money to build 47 nuclear carriers. Agreed. It is a lot of money. I don't think you can suggest that because it is a lot of money that it has to be spent on hiding alien spacecraft. Nor has anyone here suggested that it was a single Black Op. How do you know it was all spent in one place? Because someone claimed it without providing evidence for their claim? This fund could even be more there is no chain of command even the president cant shut it down, Military Industrial Complex completely out of control. If they do have the power of interstellar travel the power they use could be a vast change to the earth. They have there own banks, bankers, unlimited cash and no controls by the Government. For 60 years your grandkids future is being spent to break the countrys economy. Can you prove that the money is being spent as you suggest? Or are you just going to keep bringing up a bunch of unsupported claims and try to say that you're being objective? Theres no justification for that cost when something much cheaper could do the same mission. All these 4/5 Star generals have a share of what is known and lied about much of it could send them to prison for purgery in front of congress and the people of the United States. No justification except that they have to be hiding alien spacecraft, right? Couldn't possibly be hundreds of smaller projects, no? The Airforce has the evidence and anything finacial has long been sdestroyed to protect the guily. If it has been destroyed, how do you know about it? Because you believe other people's unsupported claims? How do you make the Air Force release what they know and what they have to share with congress. Wright Pattersons "Blue Room" has the evidence to show. Nellis afb also, several locations have evidence. How would you know what evidence there is if you've never seen it? More unsubstantiated claims? Why was all information placed above top secret clearance level? UFOs dont exist acoording to the airforce but the following studies have benn funded by the army and airforce sometimes jointly. Because the government has projects they don't want the public to know about. The US Government is not nearly powerful enough to hide alien visitations from another planet. There's no evidence to support the idea that any alien civilization would even go along with our Government's plan to hide their existence. These Projects contridict that: Project Sign: studying over 3,300 sightings over Sandia Labratories, Los Alamos, Almagordo, Whitesands havings green fireballs overflights. Never heard of green flares huh? Project Twinkle: Short lived study on UFOS Perhaps because they knew it was a dead end? Project Grudge 1951 Now something has happened Eisenhower is alarmed that there are 30000 sightings since 1947 over secure areas and no one is shooting anything down. The Air Force denies IKe access, he does his Military Industrial complex out of control speech. Eisenhower could not question anything the airforce had on black projects. Project Grudge was to dis-inform anything about UFOs Can you provide any authoritative reference to suggest that the President isn't cleared to investigate where money and manpower is being spent? Further, can you provide any authoritative reference to the idea that all of this is to cover up alien spacecraft? Project Blue Book: Gather compile information photos and anything concerning UFOs. Deny , lie, coverup any crash or recovery of downed UFOs. Dis-informnation anyone sees a UFO is a psycopath, crackpots, hire top tier scientists to reflute UFOs, all time classic created by J.Allen Hyneck "Swamp Gas" to this day continues. Project Blue Book has been closed since 1970. They were unable to find anything to substantiate the claims that reported sightings of UFOs were of alien origin. If the air force had an alliance or reverse engineered their own OFOs you would see them in combat. Could be a possibity that some sightings are our ufos. I think the Airforce has f\irst line knowledge of UFOs and is assisting with their secrecy. We have begun to see new tech coming out of the Air Force. Unmanned drones has been one of them and we've seen them in recent attacks. What evidence is there to support the idea that the Air Force has been assisting with hiding alien beings? Where is the evidence to support the claim? Again, all you've brought up is the same conspiracy stuff that has been re-hashed by alien conspiracy nuts over and over again. They are all nothing more than unsupported claims without a shred of evidence. I'm beginning to feel like a broken record here, but again I ask: where's the evidence to support any of what you're saying? You keep talking about claims but you have not established a single fact. You're too drawn into this conspiracy and you've allowed yourself to get caught up in the claims to the point where you have stopped asking the right questions and allowed what a few people have claimed to rule your entire line of thinking. | |
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I remember when I was younger ,( a long time ago ) I visited my local swimming pool. | |
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.... had seen something "not of this world". LOL....Good one. Or should i say, a good hard one! Good story John. John. ____________    | |
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Well everybody know that only americans and russians predominantly own nuclear missiles and call themselves absalute gods of this planet. But some nuke force officers are coming forward that ufo's really approached them and even deactivated those supreme weapons: | |
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But some nuke force officers are coming forward that ufo's really approached them and even deactivated those supreme weapons: Ok, some some unidentified flying object "magically disabled" some nuclear armaments. Any chance these unidentified flying objects were part of the military's multi-billion dollar projects and some of that top-secret work that they don't want the public to know about? Nah, it must have been alien beings! It's the only logical answer! | |
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This fact is very cool to ignore: | |
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This fact is very cool to ignore: Agreed. It is a cool fact to ignore, because this isn't a game of who believes what. This is all about evidence. | |
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This fact is from uk the plane full of people witnessed very cool stuff: | |
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